Nothing about belief being the basis of God's choice. No mention of election in the text. Also, belief is given by God.
Stop doubting the word of God
Is open Theism biblical
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Stop doubting the word of God
It says they were the first to put their hope in Christ.
They were included when they believed. Belief is something given by God.
Stop denying scripture
1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Who does God save?
civic
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Nope nowhere in Ephesians 1 is it given
Watch and learn. This how you answer a question dodger. Those who believe.
It is God who grants belief however.
I didn't say it did. It does in Philippians 1:29 however.
By the giving of a new heart and a new disposition. See Ezekiel 36. Notice it says God will "cause" you to obey His statutes of which belief is one.
civic
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yes to those who are already believers, its not taking about salvific faith in Phil 1:29.
That is not giving faith
that is giving a new heart regeneration through the indwelling Spirit and that is given to only those who believe
John 7:38–39 (KJV 1900) — 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Grant does not mean transfer, instill or infuse
Faith is granted (enabled) not infused by the Word
Romans 10:17 (KJV 1900) — 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
but you are confused I am TOML and you are the dodger
yes to those who are already believers, its not taking about salvific faith in Phil 1:29.
LOL, so He gives belief to those who already believe? Here is your mail you already recieved.
Does He also give repentance to those who have already repented?
So silly
Good boy. No one said it did. Knocked another strawman down. Your good.
Nope. Grant is to give. I grant you permission is not enabling permission.
No one cares who you are.
civic
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hmmm so silly that the Holy Spirit in the believer, not unbeliever produces the fruit of the Spirit- one of which is faith. That's why believers are commanded to " walk in the Spirit " which produces the fruit of the Spirit in the believer.
end of discussion
game, set and match'
how easy was that to dismantle your " SILLY " question and comments.
oops
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hope this helps !!!
Nope. Believing is not possible without the new heart which is caused by God. SOLA DEO GLORIA
hmmm so silly that the Holy Spirit in the believer, not unbeliever produces the fruit of the Spirit- one of which is faith.
end of discussion
game, set and match'
how easy was that to dismantle your " SILLY " question and comments.
oops
next
hope this helps !!!
My post referenced repentance and belief which you failed to address with irrelevant drivel.
Try again. Swing harder
civic
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civic
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bait n switch you were discussing faith.My post referenced repentance and belief which you failed to address with irrelevant drivel.
Try again. Swing harder
another shank from you
Saving faith is a gift of God, it is not of yourselves.bait n switch you were discussing faith.
another shank from you
