Is Jesus the Christ a human Person?

[Diserner]

For the record I don't believe Unitarians are really stupid..... changed it to silly...

 

[synergy]

If it’s “very much in line with what @dizerner posted” then post it. I want to see your donkey show.

I see that you're more interested in a "donkey show" than in progressive communications. That clearly reveals your motives.

 

[Matthias]

I see that you're more interested in a "donkey show" than in progressive communications. That clearly reveals your motives.

I’m about to show you otherwise. Be a man of your word. Show us your donkey. Both of our motives will be clearly revealed when you do.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Yeah, I wouldn't trust them with any spiritual understanding or interpretation.

I think we could learn something about the Hebrew language from them, however,

Yup - chances are they know THAT better than we do.

 

[synergy]

I’m about to show you otherwise. Be a man of your word. Show us your donkey. Both of our motives will be clearly revealed when you do.

Carry on with your "donkey show" as that seems to be your preference.

On the serious side of things, have you ever read up on Saint Basil the Great, the greatest expositor of the Hypostatic Union of Christ and of the Holy Trinity? You claim to know History.

 

[civic]

None of you, so far, impress me as being serious apologists for orthodoxy.

I'm not impressed with the apologetics from the unitarians camp either.

 

[synergy]

None of you, so far, impress me as being serious apologists for orthodoxy.

So says the initiator and promoter of his "donkey show". Your quote gave me a good laugh this morning.

 

[Matthias]

So says the initiator and promoter of his "donkey show". Your quote gave me a good laugh this morning.

The stage is set. Did you get approval?

 

[Matthias]

Carry on with your "donkey show" as that seems to be your preference.

SHURF

On the serious side of things, have you ever read up on Saint Basil the Great, the greatest expositor of the Hypostatic Union of Christ and of the Holy Trinity? You claim to know History.

Yes

 

[Matthias]

I'm not impressed with the apologetics from the unitarians camp either.

Orthodoxy isn’t dead, but it’s dying.

 

[civic]

Orthodoxy isn’t dead, but it’s dying.

Let it die so we can get back to the Bible.

 

[Matthias]

Let it die so we can get back to the Bible.

Those are words which we would never hear from the lips of an apologist for orthodoxy.

Orthodoxy takes us far away from the Bible.

 

[civic]

Those are words which we would never hear from the lips of an apologist for orthodoxy.

Orthodoxy takes us far away from the Bible.

Like I keep saying I'm first and foremost a Biblical Trinitrian and Apologist.

 

[Johann]

SHURF




Yes

Can you provide me links to Orthodox sites brother-I notice you come under tremendous verbal barrages from fellow brothers in Christ.
You show no air of superiority but stand firmly on what you believe is truth.

Luk 18:10 "Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a tax gatherer.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee took his stand and began to pray these things to himself, God, I thank Thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax gatherer.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I acquire.
Luk 18:13 And the tax-gatherer, standing [in a position of humility] afar off, would not even lift up his eyes unto the heaven, but began to smite his breast, saying, God be reconciled [through the atoning blood sprinkled on the mercy-seat] to me the sinner.
Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down unto his house justified compared with that one: for every one that exalteth himself shall be humbled; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted."

Just a reminder for all those who are puffed up thinking "we have it right"


Eph 4:10 He That descended is the Same That ascended also ... far above all the heavens, in order that He might fill all things.)
Eph 4:11 And He gave some [indeed], apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, as shepherds and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all attain in the unity [oneness] of the faith, even of the full knowledge of the Son of God, unto a full grown man, unto the measure of the maturity of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14 In order that we henceforth may be no longer children, surging about as waves, and borne hither and thither with every wind of the teaching, or by the sleight of men, with subtilty, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into Him in all things, Who is the head, even Christ:

I sincerely pray this Forum will not degenerate as most forums do-Ad hominem-slandering, belittling etc.
@Matthias is a fellow brother in Christ.
J.

 

[Matthias]

Like I keep saying I'm first and foremost a Biblical Trinitrian and Apologist.

Your comment about orthodoxy is already making rounds through some trinitarian circles.

Have you given @synergy permission to share with us his definition of SHURF?

 

[Matthias]

Can you provide me links to Orthodox sites brother-I notice you come under tremendous verbal barrages from fellow brothers in Christ.
You show no air of superiority but stand firmly on what you believe is truth.

Luk 18:10 "Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a tax gatherer.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee took his stand and began to pray these things to himself, God, I thank Thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax gatherer.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I acquire.
Luk 18:13 And the tax-gatherer, standing [in a position of humility] afar off, would not even lift up his eyes unto the heaven, but began to smite his breast, saying, God be reconciled [through the atoning blood sprinkled on the mercy-seat] to me the sinner.
Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down unto his house justified compared with that one: for every one that exalteth himself shall be humbled; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted."

Just a reminder for all those who are puffed up thinking "we have it right"


Eph 4:10 He That descended is the Same That ascended also ... far above all the heavens, in order that He might fill all things.)
Eph 4:11 And He gave some [indeed], apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, as shepherds and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all attain in the unity [oneness] of the faith, even of the full knowledge of the Son of God, unto a full grown man, unto the measure of the maturity of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14 In order that we henceforth may be no longer children, surging about as waves, and borne hither and thither with every wind of the teaching, or by the sleight of men, with subtilty, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into Him in all things, Who is the head, even Christ:

I sincerely pray this Forum will not degenerate as most forums do-Ad hominem-slandering, belittling etc.
@Matthias is a fellow brother in Christ.
J.

Links to Chalcedonian Christianity is what you’re looking for -> Roman Catholic and Protestant churches.

 

[Johann]

Links to Chalcedonian Christianity is what you’re looking for -> Roman Catholic and Protestant churches.

The Basics of Chalcedonian Christology | Tabletalk

The Council of Chalcedon (AD 451) is a landmark in the history of theology. The definition produced by the council has been the standard of orthodox Christology ever since.

tabletalkmagazine.com

This one?

I have no interest in Protestants and Roman Catholic's brother.

45,000 denominations
There are more than 45,000 denominations globally. Followers of Jesus span the globe. But the global body of more than 2 billion Christians is separated into thousands of denominations. Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Baptist, Apostolic, Methodist — the list goes on.

 

[Matthias]

The Basics of Chalcedonian Christology | Tabletalk

The Council of Chalcedon (AD 451) is a landmark in the history of theology. The definition produced by the council has been the standard of orthodox Christology ever since.

tabletalkmagazine.com

This one?

That would be a good one.

I have no interest in Protestants and Roman Catholic's brother.

I do.

45,000 denominations
There are more than 45,000 denominations globally. Followers of Jesus span the globe. But the global body of more than 2 billion Christians is separated into thousands of denominations. Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Baptist, Apostolic, Methodist — the list goes on.

 

[Johann]

I do.

So what are you @Matthias-a cross between Protestant and Roman Catholic?
And since you are not a Trinitarian-what is it that you really seek?

 

[Matthias]

So what are you @Matthias-a cross between Protestant and Roman Catholic?

No. I’m an ex-Protestant. (I’m married to an ex-Catholic.) I’m neither Catholic nor Protestant. I reject Chalcedonian Christianity.

And since you are not a Trinitarian-what is it that you really seek?

On this forum, I seek relief / distraction from the tremendous stress of dealing with neglected, abused, and at risk children (and their families).