Bob Carabbio
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AS you obviously are, since you're JUST AS IGNORANT in the absolute as we are.
That you've generated "Theology" about your ignorance is really just a lot of work for nothing.
Is Jesus the Christ a human Person?
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That you've generated "Theology" about your ignorance is really just a lot of work for nothing.
Johann
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Boy oh boy-up with the sleeves and down with the ease.
I am one of the FIRST to admit I don't have my "theology" always correct-keep on playing your banjo.
Wrangler
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I already did make my point. You do this all the time. You ask Mr to make a point I just did.
Not that you answered my question. Opposed you are to the notion of regarding Jesus as a common man yet he must be a common man to be the first fruit of the resurrection. Simple.
Matthias
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Your version will be wrong but I‘m going to like it. Is the holdup in posting it due to you or is it due to @civic?
Unless I miss my guess, you’re going to like what the acronym stands for. I’ve never met anyone yet who hasn’t once they’ve been told what it stands for. Once you learn it, you’ll never forget it.
I learned (and have forgotten) a lot of things from my professors. This one is unforgettable.
Matthias
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SHURF -> from the parable of the sower.
See, Hear, Understand, Repent, Forgiven.
SHURF
My motive is to build up.
Excellent! The writings of Saint Basil the Great can set you straight on the Hypostatic Union of Christ and on the Holy Trinity, especially on the Divinity of the Holy Spirit. They didn't call him Great for nothing.
civic
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Yes sir
Matthias
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It was part of my formal education. I’m reading and re-reading the Church Fathers in retirement. (Some have said that’s excellent. Others have said that it’s not.)
Orthodoxy isn’t dead, but it’s dying.
I was listening to a radio program this afternoon when the host of the program made the same comment about orthodoxy. Probably just a coincidence, but it happened and I thought it interesting.
APAK
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After much dispute to satisfy the desired outcome of the Emperor, Hebrew/Israelite/early Christian Unitarian now became a form of fragmented Binitarianism. It was not until the last 3 decades until 380 did the HS become the 3rd person, again under pagan leadership, regardless when this leadership was raised in a 'Christian' home.
Now Jesus was and is a human person as intended, although not permitted under Trinitarianism. How would that look to have 4 persons with one of them a real human person?! Cannot have that now can we....
Thy made Jesus to have only a human nature (the humanity of Jesus they say) with a divine nature and personality if you can figure that one out.
Now Jesus was and is a human person as intended, although not permitted under Trinitarianism. How would that look to have 4 persons with one of them a real human person?! Cannot have that now can we....
Thy made Jesus to have only a human nature (the humanity of Jesus they say) with a divine nature and personality if you can figure that one out.
civic
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Where have you been hiding
Good to see you !Just when you think Orthodoxy is a lost cause, God has other plans:
“Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.” (1 Kings 19:18)
Matthias
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Exhibit A.
Dr. Harold O.J. Brown. A true defender and champion of orthodoxy.
I highly recommend his book - Heresies - to one and all; trinitarian and non-trinitarian alike.
Diserner
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See, Hear and Understand are all kinda similar ideas.
Also we don't stop at forgiveness—we have to walk out salvation.
So I would put it: Grace, Revelation, Acknowledgement, Change, Endure.
GRACE.
And grace is classically expanded to God's Riches At Christ's Expense.
So we have grace upon grace, very appropriate.
Matthias
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Jesus said what he said, as did the prophet before him.
That is how people are saved.
APAK
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Well, my wife and I just got off a several decades wedding anniversary vacation. It was not the best trip...And I caught a head cold on the last day back...still under the weather making spelling errs.. although no errs being made in theological, doctrinal or judgmental matters...Where have you been hiding
civic
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Congrats how many years ?Well, my wife and I just got off a several decades wedding anniversary vacation. It was not the best trip...And I caught a head cold on the last day back...still under the weather making spelling errs.. although no errs being made in theological, doctrinal or judgmental matters...
What's your point? Heresies have always been with us and always will until Kingdom come.
civic
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Here is the reformed mr brown himself taken from ligonier. I already have enough on this topic in my library. Others might find it useful to pick up a used out of print copy from placed like abebooks for cheap.
Heresy in the Early Church by Harold Brown
"There is nothing new under the sun," the Preacher wrote (Eccl. 1:9). According to Professor Klaus Haacker of Wuppertal, Germany, one of the primary sources of
www.ligonier.org
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