Irresistible Grace

[civic]

If scripture is believed.

As we see it’s being denied with boldness

 

[brightfame52]

James 1:18 (KJV)
18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

1 Peter 1:23 (KJV)
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

1 Corinthians 4:15 (KJV)
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

seeing as one is begotten through faith in the gospel

you are left without a biblical theology

Regeneration is the good ground

 

[TomL]

As we see it’s being denied with boldness

Yes that is quite plain

 

[john]

Regeneration prepares spiritually for the effectual call into the fellowship by the Gospel Matt 13:23

no doubt he calls us by drawing us. but its up to us to accept the call

 

[brightfame52]

no doubt he calls us by drawing us. but its up to us to accept the call

False, when He draws they are already saved/regenerated

 

[Rockson]

False, when He draws they are already saved/regenerated

Sorry but it's so weird to have anyone says things like this.

So if they're already saved and regenerated exactly what are they being drawn to?

 

[TomL]

Sorry but it's so weird to have anyone says things like this.

So if they're already saved and regenerated exactly what are they being drawn to?

Regenerated and saved all without Christ

It's some heretical doctrine he/she is peddling

 

[Theophilus]

Sorry but it's so weird to have anyone says things like this.

So if they're already saved and regenerated exactly what are they being drawn to?

It's a mystery.

 

[Rowan]

no doubt he calls us by drawing us. but its up to us to accept the call

Bad news is if you're not one of the elect your on "Block Unwanted Calls."

 

[brightfame52]

Sorry but it's so weird to have anyone says things like this.

So if they're already saved and regenerated exactly what are they being drawn to?

To conversion and faith in Christ

 

[Fitzpatrick]

To conversion and faith in Christ

If you already saved then wouldn't you be already converted and wouldn't you already have faith in Christ?

 

[brightfame52]

If you already saved then wouldn't you be already converted and wouldn't you already have faith in Christ?

You are saved in order to believe in Christ

 

[Fitzpatrick]

You are saved in order to believe in Christ

I've never heard that before. I've always heard if you believe in Christ then you're saved. Are you're saying you have to be saved to Believe In Christ?

 

[Rockson]

You are saved in order to believe in Christ

So what's the end result of believing in Christ?

 

[brightfame52]

I've never heard that before. I've always heard if you believe in Christ then you're saved. Are you're saying you have to be saved to Believe In Christ?

It's sad that you never heard that before because that's the truth! 2 Cor 5:14-15

 

[brightfame52]

So what's the end result of believing in Christ?

To live eternally serving Him

 

[Fitzpatrick]

It's sad that you never heard that before because that's the truth! 2 Cor 5:14-15

Well the jury is still out on that one so don't be too sad. But I'll check it out.

 

[Rockson]

I've never heard that before. I've always heard if you believe in Christ then you're saved. Are you're saying you have to be saved to Believe In Christ?

Certainly don't take seriously what that poster said. With all due respect I'd say to you that they're way off the rails.

 

[Fitzpatrick]

It's sad that you never heard that before because that's the truth! 2 Cor 5:14-15

Are you saying Christ reconciled the entire world to himself 2 Cor 5:19 so he died for everyone 2 Cor 5:14-15 and so everyone will be saved. Therefore, no one is going to hell as God can't be stopped in his mission.

 

[Fitzpatrick]

Certainly don't take seriously what that poster said. With all due respect I'd say to you that they're way off the rails.

Got ya