If God is a Trinity, should He be referred to as “He/Him” or “They/Them”?

Trinitarians believe God is three persons. Which best represents your view?

  • God should be referred to as They/Them, to reflect the belief in three Persons.

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  • Neither. Pronouns are human constructs and don’t apply to God.

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  • Total voters
    5
When referring to God Almighty, elohim is always about one person without exception.
To your understanding is the word "elohim" plural or singular Runningman?
Right off the bat, Genesis doesn't give the reader any excuses for misunderstanding it.

Notice how a man and a woman together are a them, but God is not a them even if they are "one flesh." God is one person, a His, Him, He. The writers knew what they were talking about.

Genesis 1
27So God created man in His own image;
in the image of God He created him;
male and female He created them.
Yes, but there's always an "and" Runningman.
It is eternal life to know the Father and Jesus. (John 17:3)
The Father and Jesus were worshiped together Runningman.
The same worship to the Father also being rendered to Jesus

Rev 5:13 And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever."
Rev 5:14 And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and worshiped.
 
To your understanding is the word "elohim" plural or singular Runningman?

Yes, but there's always an "and" Runningman.
It is eternal life to know the Father and Jesus. (John 17:3)
The Father and Jesus were worshiped together Runningman.
The same worship to the Father also being rendered to Jesus
I am still working with you until you get it.

Referring to God as a He and man and woman as a them proves the writers understood proper usage of pronouns and one person versus more than one person. Do you understand that?

Rev 5:13 And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever."
Rev 5:14 And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and worshiped.
The Lamb isn't referred to as the throne sitter. Seeing that now?
 
I am still working with you until you get it.
Just yes or no Runningman.
Is your understanding of the word "elohim" singular?
Referring to God as a He and man and woman as a them proves the writers understood proper usage of pronouns and one person versus more than one person. Do you understand that?
Is John 17:3 hard to understand? Be warned Runningman that it is eternal life to know the Father and Jesus.
They are to be rendered the same worship together.
The Lamb isn't referred to as the throne sitter. Seeing that now?
The fact that the Father and Jesus worthy of the one and the same worshiped, no matter of sitting or whatever Runningman, is irrelevant.

We have to always learn to what is written Runningman not our own rooted preconceived beliefs.
I believe below verses is clear to the open minded readers.
As the truth below is just hard to digest by the Unitarians.

Rev 5:13 And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever."
Rev 5:14 And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and
worshiped.
 
Just yes or no Runningman.
Is your understanding of the word "elohim" singular?
Rarely elohim refers to numerical plurality. Elohim usually refers to intensity and amplification which is why when God is spoken of He is consistently referred to as one person throughout the Bible.

Is John 17:3 hard to understand? Be warned Runningman that it is eternal life to know the Father and Jesus.
They are to be rendered the same worship together.
Do you believe the only true God sent Jesus?

John 5
24Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever hears My word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life and will not come under judgment. Indeed, he has crossed over from death to life.


The fact that the Father and Jesus worthy of the one and the same worshiped, no matter of sitting or whatever Runningman, is irrelevant.
That's not a Scriptural teaching.
We have to always learn to what is written Runningman not our own rooted preconceived beliefs.
Yes, I hope you're learning who God is.

I believe below verses is clear to the open minded readers.
As the truth below is just hard to digest by the Unitarians.

Rev 5:13 And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever."
Rev 5:14 And the four living creatures kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and
worshiped.
1. they are worshipping around the throne
2. the Lamb is not the throne sitter

So if Rev. 5:11 says they were encircling the throne, and the Lamb is not the throne sitter, where did the elders fall down and worship?

Revelation 5
11Then I looked, and I heard the voices of many angels encircling the throne, and the living creatures and the elders. And their number was myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands. 12In a loud voice they were saying:
“Worthy is the Lamb who was slain,
to receive power and riches
and wisdom and strength
and honor and glory and blessing!”
13And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying:
“To Him who sits on the throne
and to the Lamb
be praise and honor and glory and power
forever and ever!”
14And the four living creatures said, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
 
Rarely elohim refers to numerical plurality. Elohim usually refers to intensity and amplification which is why when God is spoken of He is consistently referred to as one person throughout the Bible.
Quite the opposite Runningman, singular "God with Strong#H433, in Hebrew "אלהּ / אלוהּ 'ĕlôahh" was rarely used in the Old Testament.

Deu 32:15 “R1But N1JeshurunH3484 becameH8080 fatH8080 and kickedH1163— You have becomeH8080 fatH8080, thickH5666, and obstinateH3780— R2Then he abandonedH5203 GodH433 R3who madeH6213a him, And N2rejectedH5034a R4the RockH6697 of his salvationH3444.

H433
אלהּ / אלוהּ 'ĕlôahh
Brown-Driver-Briggs Lexicon Definition:
1) God

Do you believe the only true God sent Jesus?
I believe both are "true God" Runningman.
Read again Heb 1:9. Can you count how many word "God" was written?
The Father Himself uttered those words, we really have to learn to what is written Runningman.
John 5
24Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever hears My word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life and will not come under judgment. Indeed, he has crossed over from death to life.
Yes, Runningman, those who hear Jesus first, but what about those who do listen and believe Jesus? I bolded my point above.
The testimony, the Father said the eternal life is in His Son Jesus and whoever do not have the Son does not have eternal life.
Is the Father's testimony still true until 1John 5:20 Runningman?

1Jn 5:11 And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.
1Jn 5:12 He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.
1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

That's not a Scriptural teaching.

Yes, I hope you're learning who God is.

1. they are worshipping around the throne
2. the Lamb is not the throne sitter

So if Rev. 5:11 says they were encircling the throne, and the Lamb is not the throne sitter, where did the elders fall down and worship?

Revelation 5
11Then I looked, and I heard the voices of many angels encircling the throne, and the living creatures and the elders. And their number was myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands. 12In a loud voice they were saying:
“Worthy is the Lamb who was slain,
to receive power and riches
and wisdom and strength
and honor and glory and blessing!”
13And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying:
“To Him who sits on the throne
and to the Lamb
be praise and honor and glory and power
forever and ever!”
14And the four living creatures said, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
We have to learn to what is written Runningman, there's only one and the same worshiped (bolded above) rendered to the Father and Jesus. Sitting or whatever is irrelevant Runningman.

To your understanding Runningman, is worship only be done to one who is sitting?
Because of personal incredulity and rooted preconceived beliefs makes it hard to believe the truth that Jesus was being worshiped not even sitting.(Matt 28:9,17)
Now, as the Father and Jesus being worshiped with one and the same worship for the Father, Jesus need to sit also?
A very weak argument Runningman.
 
Quite the opposite Runningman, singular "God with Strong#H433, in Hebrew "אלהּ / אלוהּ 'ĕlôahh" was rarely used in the Old Testament.

Deu 32:15 “R1But N1JeshurunH3484 becameH8080 fatH8080 and kickedH1163— You have becomeH8080 fatH8080, thickH5666, and obstinateH3780— R2Then he abandonedH5203 GodH433 R3who madeH6213a him, And N2rejectedH5034a R4the RockH6697 of his salvationH3444.

H433
אלהּ / אלוהּ 'ĕlôahh
Brown-Driver-Briggs Lexicon Definition:
1) God

Through the entire Bible God is referred to with singular pronouns. So elohim doesn't refer to numerical plurality when referring to God. God is one person.

God alone is referred to in the singular:

John 17
1When Jesus had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son may glorify You. 2For You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him. 3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.

God with someone else is a we:

John 14
23Jesus replied, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24Whoever does not love Me does not keep My words. The word that you hear is not My own, but it is from the Father who sent Me.

So your word games that deliberately ignore basic English are not convincing.
I believe both are "true God" Runningman.
Read again Heb 1:9. Can you count how many word "God" was written?
The Father Himself uttered those words, we really have to learn to what is written Runningman.

Yes, Runningman, those who hear Jesus first, but what about those who do listen and believe Jesus? I bolded my point above.
The testimony, the Father said the eternal life is in His Son Jesus and whoever do not have the Son does not have eternal life.
Is the Father's testimony still true until 1John 5:20 Runningman?

1Jn 5:11 And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.
1Jn 5:12 He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.
1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.
1 John 5:20 is about the Father, not Jesus. The only God mentioned in the passage is the Father.

Son = Jesus
of
God = Father

The Father is called the true God through the Bible, no other possible way to somehow make Jesus God out of this. Context refutes that idea.
We have to learn to what is written Runningman, there's only one and the same worshiped (bolded above) rendered to the Father and Jesus. Sitting or whatever is irrelevant Runningman.

To your understanding Runningman, is worship only be done to one who is sitting?
Because of personal incredulity and rooted preconceived beliefs makes it hard to believe the truth that Jesus was being worshiped not even sitting.(Matt 28:9,17)
Now, as the Father and Jesus being worshiped with one and the same worship for the Father, Jesus need to sit also?
A very weak argument Runningman.
I am showing you what is written. So far your arguments seem to revolve around denying what the Bible says, inventing meanings that only your organization believes in, and misrepresenting the context.
 
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