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When you're being burnt to the steak a big fan is the last thing you need😇

Tyndale was already on fire for the Lord.... The stake was only a next phase for him.

William Tyndale died with God's dying grace...

...... and...

Might have been greeted in Heaven by Stephen to be his tour guide.

grace and peace ...............
 
Great little discussion by James White. Apparently it's a series.

Beautiful that James White said his father studied at Moody Bible Institute under Kenneth Wuest.

The Kenneth Wuest Bible is valuable study bible if one wants to get a much better handle on the Greek text.

https://www.christianbook.com/the-new-testament-an-expanded-translation/9780802808820/pd/1229

Drama and action, abrupt exclamation, severe rebuke, stark contrasts--the Greek New Testament is full of these,
but standard English versions don't come across this way. This carefully researched translation pays close attention
to the original style and force, sentence structure and verb tense meanings, and succeeds in bringing out the richness
and clarity of the Greek. An essential work for scholars and refreshing reading for everyone else.


grace and peace .............
 
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Tyndale was already on fire for the Lord.... The stake was only a next phase for him.

William Tyndale died with God's dying grace...

...... and...

Might have been greeted in Heaven by Stephen to be his tour guide.

grace and peace ...............
I can dig it. On fire for the Lord. Makes me think of those sermons about going back to our first love. You know how you can be saved for a while and kind of take it for granted and that fire kind of dies down?

This guy Is definitely on fire for the Lord.

 
Some of you people treat this like its a sport and you are rooting for your favorite team...

I don't get it. This should be your life, not the sports channel.

God gave us sports for sports. God gave His Word for our life.

grace and peace...............
 
Some of you people treat this like its a sport and you are rooting for your favorite team...

I don't get it. This should be your life, not the sports channel.

God gave us sports for sports. God gave His Word for our life.

grace and peace...............
The Apostle Paul had a little bit to say about that.

1 Corinthians 9:24-26

24. Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.

25. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last; but we do it to get a crown that will last forever.

26. Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air.

27. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.
 
The Apostle Paul had a little bit to say about that.

1 Corinthians 9:24-26

24. Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.

25. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last; but we do it to get a crown that will last forever.

26. Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air.

27. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

We are to run in the filling of the Spirit in Truth we have learned.
Not on our emotions .... without having the truth understood, but only touched upon..


But those who wait on the Lord
Shall renew their strength;
They shall mount up with wings like eagles,
They shall run and not be weary,
They shall walk and not faint.
Isaiah 40:31


We are not to run on emotions staying on the outskirts of truth.. without learning the Truth in detail -so we will be able to know and run and not be weary as the Spirit quickens us.

Emotion driven believers get emotional hangovers after the cheering stops... Still being in need of understanding of the Word they failed to secure while being wrapped up in their experience, rather than in knowledge. Knowledge that we must learn to discipline ourselves to have.

But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To him be glory both now and forever! Amen." 2 Peter 3:18​

Too many preachers talk about truth without being able to teach the truth as it needs to be understood. Needing to be understood to build one up in the Lord.

Instead, they preach and work everyone up in their emotions. Giving the hearers a group "emotional experience" but learn very little as they need to have. Needed for times when they are alone and facing pressures on their own that need to be overcome by having the Spirit recall ones own knowledge of the Truth...

It requires taking up ones own cross to learn sound doctrine. A denial of self is required.

Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself
and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it,
but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." Matthew 16:24-25​

Many will refuse to take up their own cross and will seek to have an emotional experience in a church, rather than a classroom for God's Word in church as it was designed for. They will become bored with sound teaching and go seeking after some preachers who know how to say what they would rather hear.

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound doctrine,
but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves a great
number of teachers to suit their own passions." 2 Timothy 4:3​

That's what I meant by, "rooting for their own team." Whatever is accepted by what group whom they approve of, is all that matters.
They will root for whatever false doctrine they have bonded with others around, and will refuse correction when God brings them
their way. And, we all need corrections if we are ever to mature in Christ. For, "His ways are not our ways."

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord."
Isaiah 55:8​
Preachers that gear themselves to teach what they sense certain believers want to hear, will be promoting the thoughts and ways
of a target audience to make them feel comfortable in their emotions, while presenting a Jesus they would like to hear about, rather
than sound doctrine telling them His ways that the believer needs to learn to repent (take up his cross) transform into God's thinking
by grace...

So be it.

grace and peace! ....................
 
We are to run in the filling of the Spirit in Truth we have learned.
Not on our emotions .... without having the truth understood, but only touched upon..


But those who wait on the Lord
Shall renew their strength;
They shall mount up with wings like eagles,
They shall run and not be weary,
They shall walk and not faint.
Isaiah 40:31


We are not to run on emotions staying on the outskirts of truth.. without learning the Truth in detail -so we will be able to know and run and not be weary as the Spirit quickens us.

Emotion driven believers get emotional hangovers after the cheering stops... Still being in need of understanding of the Word they failed to secure while being wrapped up in their experience, rather than in knowledge. Knowledge that we must learn to discipline ourselves to have.

But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To him be glory both now and forever! Amen." 2 Peter 3:18​

Too many preachers talk about truth without being able to teach the truth as it needs to be understood. Needing to be understood to build one up in the Lord.

Instead, they preach and work everyone up in their emotions. Giving the hearers a group "emotional experience" but learn very little as they need to have. Needed for times when they are alone and facing pressures on their own that need to be overcome by having the Spirit recall ones own knowledge of the Truth...

It requires taking up ones own cross to learn sound doctrine. A denial of self is required.

Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself
and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it,
but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." Matthew 16:24-25​

Many will refuse to take up their own cross and will seek to have an emotional experience in a church, rather than a classroom for God's Word in church as it was designed for. They will become bored with sound teaching and go seeking after some preachers who know how to say what they would rather hear.

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound doctrine,
but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves a great
number of teachers to suit their own passions." 2 Timothy 4:3​

That's what I meant by, "rooting for their own team." Whatever is accepted by what group whom they approve of, is all that matters.
They will root for whatever false doctrine they have bonded with others around, and will refuse correction when God brings them
their way. And, we all need corrections if we are ever to mature in Christ. For, "His ways are not our ways."

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord." Isaiah 55:8​
Preachers that gear themselves to teach what they sense certain believers want to hear, will be promoting the thoughts and ways
of a target audience to make them feel comfortable in their emotions, while presenting a Jesus they would like to hear about, rather
than sound doctrine telling them His ways that the believer needs to learn to repent (take up his cross) transform into God's thinking
by grace...

So be it.

grace and peace! ....................
Awesome post, I can tell you really put some time and some thought in it.
Emotion driven believers get emotional hangovers after the cheering stops... Still being in need of understanding of the Word they failed to secure while being wrapped up in their experience, rather than in knowledge. Knowledge that we must learn to discipline ourselves to have.
I have to agree running on your emotions will mess you up every time.
 
It's particularly cool how Tyndale prayed for the king's eyes to be opened as last statement.

And eventually the Bible was released in every church and a new translation commissioned.

Paul said "follow me as I follow Christ," there's nothing wrong with being inspired by people.
 
It's particularly cool how Tyndale prayed for the king's eyes to be opened as last statement.

And eventually the Bible was released in every church and a new translation commissioned.

Paul said "follow me as I follow Christ," there's nothing wrong with being inspired by people.

Inspired by those who reveal how to walk in the Lord. Paul was a laid down life in Christ.
Tyndale was a laid down life in the Lord. Understanding and learning the Word of God
was everything to them.

Otherwise? ... careful how we are inspired by "christian people."
If the person leaves you having a greater knowledge of God's Word? Fine.

But, too many end up in a broad and wide ditch when inspired by people....

For the time will come when they will not tolerate/endure sound doctrine.
Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number
of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." 2 Timothy 4:3​


The road to destruction Jesus said is "broad and wide."
And, when it comes to finding life more abundantly, as Jesus wants us to have?
What did he say?
"Few find it."

This is facts.

Get into the Word in depth by learning from one of the few good teachers of the Word.
God will provide.
Otherwise?

to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number (broad and wide)
of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

We are not to be herd bound.
We need to become "heard" bound.

Some out there wonder what is wrong with Christianity because it all seems so superficial.
They need to pray a prayer something like this..

"Father in Jesus name. Give me Bible doctrine for every area of my life."

Instead... many will seek out a church where they can feel comfortable to socialize with.

In spite of how much I wish it were not true. I can not stop what Jesus said will be the way it is.
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction,
and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which
leads to life, and there are few who find it.” Matthew 7:13-14

That life it leads to is not about salvation itself.

Its what Jesus desires for all those who have found salvation.
A life to have and to glorify Christ with!


The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come
that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly."
John 10:10

In today's world...

Do all Christians have Life more abundantly? No!
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which
leads to life, and there are few who find it.”
There are only a few good teachers to learn from.
Teachers God raised up for today's problems.


"Father in Jesus name. Give me Bible doctrine for every area of my life."
 
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