civic
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I answered it he had no christian virtues first of all and secondly several false teachings about God.
How Calvin justified persecuting his opponents
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So was he a Christian or not? Don't be coward. Tell us.
Calvin is mentioned in scripture?
civic
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I would say a resounding NO. No fruit of the spirit in his life, no love for the brethren or his neighbor. What Jesus would call a hypocrite just like the pharisees of His day.
Paul describes it well in 1 Corinthians 13- If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
Love is the badge worn by followers of Christ. No love then one has nothing but religion, not a relationship with Christ. Love is the foundation. It reflects Gods character in a believers life.
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Matthew 25:40-45
40The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’41Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fireprepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
Matthew 7:21-24
Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22;Many will say to me on that day,‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
praise_yeshua
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Calvin basically didn't get along with anyone. He had opportunity with Servetus. Calvin gradually gained power among his peers. He used that power for evil things.
History is evidence.
praise_yeshua
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How long have you been defending Calvin? It is amazing how some Calvinists say they don't really know Calvin and others demand they really do.....
Which is it?
The dispute was between who? Who were the parties in the dispute?
praise_yeshua
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I don't believe you know much about the Scriptures. You missed these.....
1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
praise_yeshua
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Servetus didn't do anything worthy of death. Just words he had to face God with......
Joh 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
praise_yeshua
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See below
John Calvin justified killing his theological opponents with the Bible
Do you know which Bible verse John Calvin used to encourage killing people who had different theology?www.reenactingtheway.com
It is rather ironic to recognize that the very verse Calvin used would have been used against him by those who had actually recorded those words.
That is the "way of the world". Once someone gains a little power among men, they soon display what is in their hearts.
civic
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Yes
1 Corinthians 5:13
God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you
I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.
How would you know if there fruit of the Spirit in His life? Good job on the "judge not lest ye be judged". LOL
Calvin created the Bourse Francaise which was a mercy ministry to help orphans. How awful right?
In 1559 he started a hospital for the indigent and a school called the Geneva Academy to train children and students across Europe. BURN HIM AT THE STAKE! LOL
This ought to condemn him if nothing else does. He helped found the church which provided a saftey net for the sick and pour foreigners through a special fund. Can you believe that fruitless guy? To the gallows........
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No one cares what you believe. That you can believe.
I believe you missed this one, "judge not lest ye be judged". Ever hear of it? Or Romans 13 about obeying the laws of the land? Ever hear of that one?
I think its kind of stupid passing judgement on someone who has been dead for 500 years. Someone you did not know personally. But you go ahead. Thats all you.
civic
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popes have done the same thing. just sayin
civic
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how long has judas been dead ? yet he is judged all the time from the pulpits, forums, books etc....
Would you say those would be fruits of the Spirit??
praise_yeshua
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Sure they do. You can stop pretending you're God and know "everything".
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