Heaven is a real place

[Doug Brents]

Ill butt in as well.... what do you think the purpose of a glorified body will be?

Irrelevant to the discussion at hand. The purpose of the glorified body is irrelevant to the form that body will take. Even Paul didn't know what kind of body we would have (1 Cor 15), but He said that we would be like God when we are resurrected. He also said that our resurrected body would be like our physical body as much as a corn seed is like a corn plant: totally different.

 

[TibiasDad]

And elsewhere, for example, in 1 Corinthians 15:13 in speaking of the resurrection at the end of the age, it says, "But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised". Here again the word for resurrection is ἀνάστασις [anastasis] while the Greek word for "raised" is ἐγείρω [egeirō] similar to the word used for the resurrection of Jesus from the tomb.

ἐγείρω Means “to raise up” and can mean anything from getting up out of bed in the morning to lifting your arm or rising from death (resurrection). In the same way that “sleep” can mean resting in bed or being dead, rising from sleep is equal to rising from death. The analogy is the same.

ἀνάστασις likewise means “to rise” and is often used to describe something like the erection of a statue or a building. In the case of a building it can carry the idea of a restoring of functionality. This fits with what occurs with a dead body being raised again to functionality (life) after being dead.

Both have the idea of getting up or rising from an inert state to a more active state of being. Two words with the same import.


Doug

 

[TibiasDad]

Where is that said in Scripture?

Are you being obtuse? Read the resurrection accounts. What did the women grab hold of? Into what did Thomas place his hands? If the body of Jesus was not raised from death, our faith is useless! That which was crucified and buried is exactly what exited the tomb, but now it is no longer subject to death, entropy, the laws of thermodynamics and decay.

Doug

 

[Jim]

Are you being obtuse? Read the resurrection accounts. What did the women grab hold of? Into what did Thomas place his hands? If the body of Jesus was not raised from death, our faith is useless! That which was crucified and buried is exactly what exited the tomb, but now it is no longer subject to death, entropy, the laws of thermodynamics and decay.

Doug

No, I am not being obtuse. Yes, that is exactly what exited the tomb. Where does it say it was no longer subject to death, entropy, the laws of thermo and decay? And where does it say that is what we will be in the resurrection?

When Jesus appeared to his disciples, He specifically noted that he was not a spirit. In fact, Jesus assured Thomas that it was the same physical body that was nailed to the cross.

There is nothing in the bible that suggests the Jesus, after He had raised from death, was anything different than that which he was before being crucified.

 

[Doug Brents]

Are you being obtuse? Read the resurrection accounts. What did the women grab hold of? Into what did Thomas place his hands? If the body of Jesus was not raised from death, our faith is useless! That which was crucified and buried is exactly what exited the tomb, but now it is no longer subject to death, entropy, the laws of thermodynamics and decay.

Sure, Jesus was physically resurrected. There is no doubt about that. But there is NO evidence that He has the same physical body in Heaven. Even Paul, who went to Heaven and wrote about it in 2 Cor 12:2, says that we don't know what we will be like in the resurrection. We don't know what kind of body we will have, whether spiritual, or physical, or something else.

You asked:

He was physically like us in the resurrection and Paul says that is our hope for what we will be after the resurrection of the dead.

I want to know where in Scripture you find that we will have a physical body after the resurrection.