He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

[brightfame52]

You ignored context as typical

Romans 11:4–5 (KJV 1900) — 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Now as in the past there is a condition

Romans 9:30–32 (KJV 1900) — 30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

This is Salvation by Grace:

Its clear as day, election of grace is without works/conditions Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

 

[TomL]

This is Salvation by Grace:

Its clear as day, election of grace is without works/conditions Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

You ignored context

Romans 11:4–5 (KJV 1900) — 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Now as in the past there is a condition

Romans 9:30–32 (KJV 1900) — 30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

 

[Hosanna]

What is the name of the son per Matthew 28:19. You failed to answer it like everybody else does.

I know the answer you're the one that's hung up on it. Real Christians know who Jesus is.

Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. The Father told Jesus, “Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever..” (Hebrews 1:8). Jesus is God. He was there at the creation of humanity. We are told in:

Genesis 1:26 … and God said, let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness …

Jesus is God the Son Who, with God the Father and God the Spirit created all things. The Bible says that Jesus is …

… the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Colossians 1:15-17

 

[Truther]

Apparently you don't see, That's the problem. Why did God the Father send God the Son, Jesus Christ, to die?

While we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. Romans 5:6-10

All I am asking is what the name of the son per Matt 28:19 is?...

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son(WHAT IS THIS NAME?), and of the Holy Ghost:

 

[brightfame52]

You ignored context

Romans 11:4–5 (KJV 1900) — 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Now as in the past there is a condition

Romans 9:30–32 (KJV 1900) — 30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

This is Salvation by Grace:

Its clear as day, election of grace is without works/conditions Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

 

[Truther]

The title "son" (lower case "s") does not refer to Jesus. The title "Son" (capital "S") does. There is only one "Son".

So, the name of the son is son?

 

[Truther]

I know the answer you're the one that's hung up on it. Real Christians know who Jesus is.

Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. The Father told Jesus, “Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever..” (Hebrews 1:8). Jesus is God. He was there at the creation of humanity. We are told in:

Genesis 1:26 … and God said, let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness …

Jesus is God the Son Who, with God the Father and God the Spirit created all things. The Bible says that Jesus is …

… the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Colossians 1:15-17

So, you are sorta trying to say the name of the son could actually be this?...


19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of JESUS, and of the Holy Ghost:

 

[Hosanna]

So, you are sorta trying to say the name of the son could actually be this?...


19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of JESUS, and of the Holy Ghost:

You're going to have to figure it out on your own as I doubt very seriously you're really seeking any advice.

 

[Fellow Traveler]

All I am asking is what the name of the son per Matt 28:19 is?...

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son(WHAT IS THIS NAME?), and of the Holy Ghost:

This is a perfect example of why people that are performing the baptismal ritual need to be extremely careful not to hold the one that's getting baptized underwater too long. It cuts off oxygen to the brain.

Your brain needs a constant supply of oxygen to work properly and survive. But if something interrupts or cuts off the oxygen flow to your brain for 4 minutes or longer, brain cells begin to die. This can cause serious, and in some cases, permanent brain damage.

Also causing one to regurgitate all over themselves and moan and wail.

 

[TomL]

This is Salvation by Grace:

Its clear as day, election of grace is without works/conditions Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

You ignored context

Romans 11:4–5 (KJV 1900) — 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Now as in the past there is a condition

Romans 9:30–32 (KJV 1900) — 30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

 

[brightfame52]

You ignored context

Romans 11:4–5 (KJV 1900) — 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Now as in the past there is a condition

Romans 9:30–32 (KJV 1900) — 30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

Its in the context:

This is Salvation by Grace:

Its clear as day, election of grace is without works/conditions Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

 

[Truther]

You're going to have to figure it out on your own as I doubt very seriously you're really seeking any advice.

I think the name of the son per Matthew 28:19 is Jesus. Seems pretty easy. Even Peter figured that out in Acts chapter 2.

 

[Truther]

This is a perfect example of why people that are performing the baptismal ritual need to be extremely careful not to hold the one that's getting baptized underwater too long. It cuts off oxygen to the brain.

Your brain needs a constant supply of oxygen to work properly and survive. But if something interrupts or cuts off the oxygen flow to your brain for 4 minutes or longer, brain cells begin to die. This can cause serious, and in some cases, permanent brain damage.

Also causing one to regurgitate all over themselves and moan and wail.

So you still haven’t figured out what the name of the son is per Matthew 28:19? Why is it so hard?

 

[Julie]

Baptism is a sign of our death and resurrection with Christ. Baptism indicates our identification with the death of Christ; by it, we confess our faith that His death was for us, that in His atonement He paid the penalty for our sin. Water baptism does not and cannot save you.

 

[Hosanna]

I think the name of the son per Matthew 28:19 is Jesus. Seems pretty easy. Even Peter figured that out in Acts chapter 2.

See that wasn't so hard was it?

 

[Doug Brents]

Baptism is a sign of our death and resurrection with Christ. Baptism indicates our identification with the death of Christ; by it, we confess our faith that His death was for us, that in His atonement He paid the penalty for our sin. Water baptism does not and cannot save you.

According to you, but not according to Scripture.

 

[Julie]

According to you, but not according to Scripture.

Wrong, More like according to the way you misinterpret scripture.

 

[Truther]

Baptism is a sign of our death and resurrection with Christ. Baptism indicates our identification with the death of Christ; by it, we confess our faith that His death was for us, that in His atonement He paid the penalty for our sin. Water baptism does not and cannot save you.

KJ21. The like figure to this, even baptism, doth also now save us…..

This verse trumps your statement

 

[Truther]

See that wasn't so hard was it?

Yes, so why don’t people baptize Jesus when the name of the son per Matt 28:19 is Jesus?

 

[brightfame52]

KJ21. The like figure to this, even baptism, doth also now save us…..

This verse trumps your statement

Did water baptism save you from your sins ?