My answer is the Trinity.
Your false doctrine forces you to deny the use of plural pronouns.
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My answer is the Trinity.
Your false doctrine forces you to deny the use of plural pronouns.
101G
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just because you're IGNORANT do not make the rest... US the same as you? now listen, Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
see that word, "Beginning",
H7225 רֵאשִׁית re'shiyth (ray-sheeth') n-f.
1. the first, in place, time, order or rank.
2. (specifically) a firstfruit.
[from the same as H7218]
KJV: beginning, chief(-est), first(-fruits, part, time), principal thing.
Root(s): H7218
1. the first, in place, time, order or rank. LOL, LOL, LOL,
101G.
101G
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you still have not explain how God went from a US and OUR in Genesis 1:26 to a "HE" and a "HIS" in Genesis 1:27.
as of now you are in default, unless you can explain why...... (smile)...lol, lol, lol,
101G.
See post 26.
101G
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LOL, LOL, LOL, so we can take this as U cannot explain how God a single person, is a Plurility. thought so...... Next.
101G.
Speak for yourself.
You are not a "we."
You are very confused about the use of proper pronouns.
The Bible doesn't have this confusion.
civic
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Yes as only in modalism is a single person a we, us, they, them, our etc........... They must redefine basic grammar/pronouns and words to fit their systematic.
But in the real world and the biblical world they are plural pronouns and mean more than one person.
Modalists do what those who deny the Lord Jesus is God do. That is, Modalists will ignore (or twist) the use of plural pronouns while only embracing the singular pronouns. Those who deny the Lord Jesus is God will ignore (or twist) the passages which teach Jesus is God while embracing the passages that teach He is a man.
civic
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similar arguments with the uni's too as the plural pronouns get ignored, twisted and eisegeted to fit their dogma
101G
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so, are you accusing the Lord Jesus of twisting plural pronouns in telling the TRUTH. did not the Lord Jesus say, "God is a HE?".
101G.
101G
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He is the Father in reference to himself as Spirit. now your verse. John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."
now to answer this, ...... just back up a few verses. John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." when did the Lord Jesus come to them? answer on Pentecost. in Spirit, (the Comforter), because he is the Holy Spirit. "why do you think when he said I must go so that the Comforter can come".....(smile). see, "ANOTHER" COMFORTER is him, the Lord Jesus in Spirit as he was before, ..... coming in flesh as the Son. for he, the Spirit", God, came first in flesh, per Luke 2:25 AS CPMFORTER. this is the ECHAD in equal share of oneself. first understand the ECHAD, and then you will know and understand the "we" and the "our" in John 14:23
now to clearly see this ECHAD of "ANOTHER" did not the Lord Jesus said God is a "HE", a single Person in Matthews 19:4 when he Made man male and female at the beginning?. but is not the Lord Jesus this ONE GOD? yes, but because of the "ECHAD" as the ANOTHER of himself, as Son "HE" made NOTHING, NOT IN FLESH with BLOOD. but as Spirit YES he made all things.
101G.
101G
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@Fred,
is not the advocate the Lord Jesus? and is not the advocate the Holy Spirit? let's check the record. 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:" and the term advocate here is the Greek word,
G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
[(not given)]
KJV: advocate, comforter
Root(s): G3844, G2822
and there is ONLY "ONE" COMFORTER. John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" ... (smile) ....
YIKES!
yes "Comforter" here is the same word for Comforter in John 14:16.......
G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
[(not given)]
KJV: advocate, comforter
Root(s): G3844, G2822
see definition #2, "an intercessor", yes, the Holy Spirit. supportive scripture, Romans 8:26 "Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered."
one has to blind not to see this.
101G.
is not the advocate the Lord Jesus? and is not the advocate the Holy Spirit? let's check the record. 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:" and the term advocate here is the Greek word,
G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
[(not given)]
KJV: advocate, comforter
Root(s): G3844, G2822
and there is ONLY "ONE" COMFORTER. John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" ... (smile) ....
YIKES!yes "Comforter" here is the same word for Comforter in John 14:16.......
G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
[(not given)]
KJV: advocate, comforter
Root(s): G3844, G2822
see definition #2, "an intercessor", yes, the Holy Spirit. supportive scripture, Romans 8:26 "Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered."
one has to blind not to see this.
101G.
101G
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as the same person ... no. did you not HEAR, Deuteronomy 4:35 "Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him." he is a single pronoun.
Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." how many is "me?"
Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:" if there is none else, then there is no 3 nothings.
see 101G answer your question, why you cannot answer God question?
Deuteronomy 4:39 "Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else."
if there is none else, that means there is no three person Godhead.
as for his plurality? he, he, he, is the ECHAD of himself in flesh. so why you cannot answer why God is a "HE", and there is none else. meaning NOI ONE ELSE? see your dilemma now?
now education time. the phase "none else", when used as a noun, in "Not a thing besides what already exists or is present" is synonyms with, nothing more, nothing, zero, none, not anything, nothing other, diddly-squat, nothing further. one can find these synonyms words at https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/nothing_else.html
101G.
101G
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@Fred,
please tell us the difference in Spirit between Spirit of God, and Spirit of Christ. Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."
is this two separate Spirits?
101G.
please tell us the difference in Spirit between Spirit of God, and Spirit of Christ. Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."
is this two separate Spirits?
101G.
101G
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Dodge nothing, you must not have read. listen to my answer.
He is the Father in reference to himself as Spirit. now your verse. John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."
now to answer this, ...... just back up a few verses. John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." when did the Lord Jesus come to them? answer on Pentecost. in Spirit, (the Comforter), because he is the Holy Spirit. "why do you think when he said I must go so that the Comforter can come".....(smile). see, "ANOTHER" COMFORTER is him, the Lord Jesus in Spirit as he was before, ..... coming in flesh as the Son. for he, the Spirit", God, came first in flesh, per Luke 2:25 AS CPMFORTER. this is the ECHAD in equal share of oneself. first understand the ECHAD, and then you will know and understand the "we" and the "our" in John 14:23
now to clearly see this ECHAD of "ANOTHER" did not the Lord Jesus said God is a "HE", a single Person in Matthews 19:4 when he Made man male and female at the beginning?. but is not the Lord Jesus this ONE GOD? yes, but because of the "ECHAD" as the ANOTHER of himself, as Son "HE" made NOTHING, NOT IN FLESH with BLOOD. but as Spirit YES he made all things.
101G.
................ (Smile), as I been saying God is an "ECHAD" of himself ... EQUALLY SHARED in Flesh.
now back to my question,
please tell us the difference in Spirit between Spirit of God, and Spirit of Christ. Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."
the Spirit of God is ONE PERSON, and is the Spirit of Christ is this another PERSON? or is this two separate Spirits?
101G
Once I read the sentence above, I knew to ignore the rest of the garbage you posted.
