God's attribute of Justice demands PSA
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Johann
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Iron sharpens iron dear brother-I don't have it altogether-hence my profile pic. Lol!
J.
civic
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Ditto
civic
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It’s no different than liking a post
DavidTree
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DittoIt’s no different than liking a post
i get Brother - just having some lol with you
101G
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irrelevant, I say the Lord Jesus sits on the throne. and if you say the father sits on the throne, then as 101G ask ... book chapter and verse as to who gave the Father POWER. now if you cannot answer it. you're in disbelief of the TRUTH.
101G
101G
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civic
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Ok
thanks
101G
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since you two are so interested in what doctoral beliefs 101G holds on the Godhead..... if you would have been reading 101G posts you would have know 101G beliefs on the Godhead.You're not alone. After months of reading 101G's posts, I still don't know what he is.
so my question still stand, "if you say the Father sits on the throne," the book chapter and verse as to who gave the Father "POWER" no excuse, just book chapter and verse please.
101G.
Johann
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Matthew 3:16-17: "After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him, and behold, a voice from heaven said, 'This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased'" (ESV).
Matthew 28:19: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (ESV).
2 Corinthians 13:14: "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all" (ESV).
Isaiah 48:16: "Draw near to me, hear this: From the first I have not spoken in secret, From the time it came to be, I have been there." And now the Lord GOD has sent Me, and His Spirit (ESV).
1 Corinthians 12:4-6: "Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone" (ESV).
Ephesians 1:13-14: "And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit" (ESV).
Hebrews 1:1-4: "Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world" (ESV).
These verses, among others, are used to support the doctrine of the Trinity, which teaches that God exists as three distinct persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—in one divine being
J.
Again what makes you think God was given power
Do you have a verse stating God was given power?
You quoted
Matthew 28:18 (ESV) — 18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
are you referencing Jesus?
and seeing as you affirmed God is one person Father, son and holy Spirit
that would be a mighty strange question for you to ask
Um No one believes the father was given power
BTW reading your claims led to contradictory beliefs
Johann
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In Revelation 4:2 and 8, the one sitting on the throne is not explicitly identified, but it is generally understood to be God the Father. In other passages, such as Matthew 19:28 and Revelation 3:21, Jesus is described as sitting on a throne alongside God the Father. In Hebrews 8:1, Jesus is described as sitting at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven. Therefore, the identity of the one sitting on the throne depends on the specific passage being referenced.
J.
101G
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so you're saying that the Lamb sits on the throne. but many here say it is the Father who sits on the throne. do you agree with the Father sitting on the throne?
101G.
101G
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NO, Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."
now, is it the Father who sits on the throne that was Given power.... yes or no.
101G.
Psalm 110:1 (ESV) — 1 The LORD says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.”
not that you have shown
Johann
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According to Revelation 4:2-3, the one who sits on the throne in heaven is not explicitly identified, but is described as having the appearance of jasper and carnelian, and around the throne was a rainbow that had the appearance of an emerald. However, based on the context of the passage and other passages in the Bible, it is generally understood to be God the Father who sits on the throne in heaven
. In Revelation 3:21, Jesus promises to grant the overcomer the right to sit with him on his throne, implying that Jesus also has a throne
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. Therefore, while the identity of the one sitting on the throne in Revelation is not explicitly stated, it is generally understood to be God the Father, with Jesus also having a throne.
Simple-right? No mental gymnastics required.
J.
101G
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ERROR, he who Sits is the "Lord", see 4:11
ok, Good, as 101G asked who gave the Father "POWER" book, chapter, and verse, .... please/
ERROR, it is clear that the "Lord" sits at the Right hand which is an anthropomorphism for "POWER", and Psalms 110:1 & 5 makes this clear. so there is ONLY ONE THRONE.
101G.
Johann
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According to Revelation 4:2-3, the one who sits on the throne in heaven is not explicitly identified, but is described as having the appearance of jasper and carnelian, and around the throne was a rainbow that had the appearance of an emerald. However, based on the context of the passage and other passages in the Bible, it is generally understood to be God the Father who sits on the throne in heaven
. In Revelation 3:21, Jesus promises to grant the overcomer the right to sit with him on his throne, implying that Jesus also has a throne
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. Therefore, while the identity of the one sitting on the throne in Revelation is not explicitly stated, it is generally understood to be God the Father, with Jesus also having a throne.
Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with Me in My throne, even as I also overcame, and sat down with My Father in His throne.
Simple-right? No mental gymnastics required.
101G
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LOL, LOL, LOL, Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." so the Lord is at the LORD right ... correct... same chapter now verse 5, Psalms 110:5 "The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath."
the same "Lord" in verse 1 is LISTEN,
H136 אֲדֹנָי 'Adonay (ad-o-noy') n-m.
1. (meaning) Lord (used as a proper name of God only).
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
[am emphatic form of H113]
KJV: (my) Lord.
Root(s): H113
and you do know what "emphatic" means right?
so the Lord is the LORD..... (smile), so look up the term "Lord" in verse 5,
101G.
