Um he chooses to save all that believe
1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
God requires man to HUMBLE THEMSELVES
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1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
No kidding. He grants belief for that very purpose. LOL
Why does He grant some unbelievers belief and not others??
Still got nothing and no answer to my point. Just mindless repetition.
First let me note you addressed nothing
God knows by observation
Hebrews 4:13 (KJV 1900) — 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
knows based upon what he does
Isaiah 46:10–11 (KJV 1900) — 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times the things that are not yet done, Saying, My counsel shall stand, And I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, The man that executeth my counsel from a far country: Yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
God know through searching man
Psalm 139:1–3 (KJV 1900) — 1 O LORD, thou hast searched me, and known me. 2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, Thou understandest my thought afar off. 3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, And art acquainted with all my ways.
God knows by testing man
Deuteronomy 8:2 (KJV 1900) — 2 And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.
now for what you states knowing the beginning to the end of things he stated to do and did in fact do.
and
Ephesians 1:11 (KJV 1900) — 11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
In context it has to do with an inheritance for those in Christ
its the same
Romans 8:28 (KJV 1900) — 28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
and not a statement men cannot reject the will of God for themselves
Luke 7:30 (KJV 1900) — 30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.
You are bearing false witness as you made no point
so You are stuck in fatalism and denial
https://berean-apologetics.communit...res-man-to-humble-themselves.1714/post-103786
The definitions given show you are without a leg to stand on.
Grant does not mean to infuse as your theology holds
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A denial of predestination, determinism and sovereignty according to Calvinism and the WCF.
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So Tom. Simple question. Is your god ignorant and learns as we go?
Folks, simple question that will be dodged ad nausea.
So ALL THINGS simply refers to inheritance? What happened to Allen's all without exception?
Nice dodge. Your question was answered. RABBIT TRAIL TIME right civic?
Engaging in false witness and failing to address rebuttal is not convincing argumentation
Let me begin by noting you addresed nothing
Not my scriptures, not my rebuttal of the verse you used to divert from my scriptures.
Ignorant ? No, as the future is not a thing which exists there was nothing to know beyond the possibilities or any determinations
Context why did you ignore the verse I quoted by way of rebuttal
Luke 7:30 (KJV 1900) — 30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.
that did not work out according to the council of God
Let me begin by saying you did not prove verse 11 refers solely to inheritance.
Second, and have never proven all means all without exception.
So God knows of a future just not what that future entails?
OPEN THEISM
So quit doing it.
You are in denial
I just quoted a verse which showed God's council was rejected
Luke 7:30 (KJV 1900) — 30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.
that did not work out according to the council of God
Hello
Ignoring scripture, ignoring rebutting is no way to support an argument
God knows by observation
Hebrews 4:13 (KJV 1900) — 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
knows based upon what he does
Isaiah 46:10–11 (KJV 1900) — 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times the things that are not yet done, Saying, My counsel shall stand, And I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, The man that executeth my counsel from a far country: Yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
God know through searching man
Psalm 139:1–3 (KJV 1900) — 1 O LORD, thou hast searched me, and known me. 2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, Thou understandest my thought afar off. 3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, And art acquainted with all my ways.
God knows by testing man
Deuteronomy 8:2 (KJV 1900) — 2 And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.
now for what you states knowing the beginning to the end of things he stated to do and did in fact do.
and
Ephesians 1:11 (KJV 1900) — 11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
In context it has to do with an inheritance for those in Christ
its the same
Romans 8:28 (KJV 1900) — 28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
and not a statement men cannot reject the will of God for themselves
Luke 7:30 (KJV 1900) — 30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.
Fatalism definition
fa·tal·ism
[ˈfādlˌizəm]
noun
- the belief that all events are predetermined and therefore inevitable:
- Resignation
- Acceptance
- Determinism
- Passivity
- Predestinarianism
So. LOL. Their rejection was part of what was being worked out according to His will.
Must have had to dig deep for that one, yikes.
Nope. They are not synonymous terms for reasons I already stated and your ignored. Typical Pelagian
Maybe you should have read the verse before replying
Luke 7:30 (KJV 1900) — 30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.
that did not work out according to the council of God
Hello
God's council was rejected, not worked out
Maybe you point out where it says its not part of what wad being worked ouy? Not going to happen is it.
It does not say it was not worked out. Is thou shall not kill part of the council of God? LOL Thou shall mot steal?
You reek of desperation
You are in very deep denial
His council was they get baptized
Hello
They did not
Hello
it did not work out according to his council
Hello
It's also His council thou shall not kill.
Totally ignored
Also, does all still mean all without exception?
