civic
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Yes man has the ability to humble themselves before God as demonstrated in all the verses I posted showing it happens.
God requires man to HUMBLE THEMSELVES
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TibiasDad
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praise_yeshua
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CS Lewis made many mistakes. I don't follow "Lewis" though I might be named after him. I have three first and lasts names. I answer to them all.
CS bowed to the kings of England. He was also a very poor apologist. Appealing to CS Lewis means nothing to me.
No. Time is sequence. Order. Precept upon precept. It exists apart from any sense of "change" in this world.
You reference a measure of Character within God. In Character, God has never changed. God often changes His mind. If God didn't change His mind about you, you would still yet be in your sins. It is good thing for God to change His mind about you.
I most certainly did. However, you will never see it as such with the postion you're defending.
To be clear, I'm not going to answer any more of your responses without you dealing with everything I said as I stated it. We are very far apart.
1. You have CS Lewis as your authority. I do not.
2. You have a flawed sense of the essence of Time. Even God operates relative to sequence. Cause and effect.
3. "Words" are more than speech. Speech is more than just an audible expression. I just "spoke" without saying a word. I spoke in "writing". Please consider your words wisely.
civic
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3 Persons each having a center of consciousness/ self which includes a mind. Some hold to one mind.
praise_yeshua
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So God knows everything in a single thought?
I asked this question a very long time ago. I've never gotten an answer. If you say "yes", then you've just quantified God to a single thought no matter the complexity of that thought. You're getting into the edges of how some quantify time relative to quantum mechanics.
praise_yeshua
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Studying the Trinity is a subject well worth the effort.
civic
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If we are going to say three distinct persons then by default there must be 3 distinct centers of consciousness. This would by default imply the mind. It’s not a slam dunk either way since there are many who hold to the one mind/ will doctrine.
civic
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These are the discussions I enjoy for they stretch us and challenge us.
civic
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I also don’t think each creed got it all correct. Just like all the ECF’s did t get everything correct.
praise_yeshua
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They are compatible. No need to "share" when they are of the same mind in Character. They are distinct yet One. Character has always been the core "union" of the teaching of the Trinity. It is what is usually lacking in those who can't "logically" accept the Persons of the Trinity.
civic
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I lean towards the social model in the Trinity which is the relational model. Roles and functions that differ. I think scripture gives lots of details how They function in that way.
praise_yeshua
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And like I often say God never asks us to do or be someone or something He is not including humility.
The Calvinist pride has a hard time with this one
Think about this for a little....
The Character of God requires He change when we express faith. From death to life. From enemies of God to "sons".
"What God has done for others, He will do for you......."
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Is time among all things??Got scripture for the creation of time ?
Didn’t think so just an argument from silence just like tulip
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Amen good job. Memorize it
praise_yeshua
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Then nothing is "written" and everything is subject to change......
How does that work if God is omniscient?
If your a Open Theist as civic and Tom are, then your correct.
