civic
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yes you have a false gospel and christ. on this we agree.
God is Love
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brightfame52
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Thats another jesus who loved all mankind
civic
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thats a false christ that doesn't.
When Jesus said the Father is 'greater than I'..
What did he mean?
The Father is a superior being?
Or... Jesus was about to ascend to be one with the Father, equal, in the same POSITION, and the difference was only positional.
What makes more sense in light of other scriptures.. seeing Jesus is called the Alpha and Omega in Revelation, among other verses?
If I say the President of the USA is greater than me, is he actually a superior being?
If you are being honest, he is in a greater position..but is not a superior being.
What did he mean?
The Father is a superior being?
Or... Jesus was about to ascend to be one with the Father, equal, in the same POSITION, and the difference was only positional.
What makes more sense in light of other scriptures.. seeing Jesus is called the Alpha and Omega in Revelation, among other verses?
If I say the President of the USA is greater than me, is he actually a superior being?
If you are being honest, he is in a greater position..but is not a superior being.
brightfame52
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Friend thats what Jesus warned about, another jesus
Affinity
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I have been thinking about the love of God and how to learn more about His love found in the Bible. I thought I would have a look see here at BAM.
This thread looks like it might show me the right direction on where to start my study in God's Word. I would like to understand it, and be able to tell others.
This I do know. How can we as Christians escape the text, “God is love”? But if we use this text we have said it all, for the text is so all-inclusive, so final, that it leaves nothing to be said. It is with trembling soul and faltering tongue that we approach the greatest text of the Bible, “God is love.”
The verse that famously states that "God is love" is found in 1 John 4:8, which says, "Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love." This verse emphasizes that love is central to God's nature.
we are permitted to see the heart of God here.
John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
John 3:16 is a verse I can get hold of, because it is an expression of the love of God. But I believe God's love is evident from cover to cover in the Bible.
I like this one.
Here is a list of Bible verses:
This thread looks like it might show me the right direction on where to start my study in God's Word. I would like to understand it, and be able to tell others.
This I do know. How can we as Christians escape the text, “God is love”? But if we use this text we have said it all, for the text is so all-inclusive, so final, that it leaves nothing to be said. It is with trembling soul and faltering tongue that we approach the greatest text of the Bible, “God is love.”
The verse that famously states that "God is love" is found in 1 John 4:8, which says, "Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love." This verse emphasizes that love is central to God's nature.
we are permitted to see the heart of God here.
John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
John 3:16 is a verse I can get hold of, because it is an expression of the love of God. But I believe God's love is evident from cover to cover in the Bible.
I like this one.
Isaiah 54:10
For the mountains may depart and the hills be removed, but my steadfast love shall not depart from you, and my covenant of peace shall not be removed,” says the Lord, who has compassion on you.Here is a list of Bible verses:
100 Bible Verses about Gods love
brightfame52
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Learn how the Love of God discriminates among His creatures, it's Sovereign, for He loves some and hates the rest Rom 9:13
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Damien
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May God bless and lead you in your study.
This I know; God and his love are basic to life. If you can give a person a grasp on God's love, they will have something to hold on to.
God is basic to life, and no matter what else may change, he will not. This fundamental fact about God gives us the faith like the Old Testament Saints had. God is love—the highest height, the deepest depth, the broadest breadth, the very essence and wellspring of love. God cannot change.
Because he loved and wanted a being like himself upon whom he could bestow his love, he created man in his own image. Man is God’s offspring, the crown of his creative genius. Because we are his creation God loves, us, and no matter how far astray we go, he will love us so long as we live.
101G
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GINOLJC, to all.
the bible is saying this., "that he God was "ALONE" . supportive scripture, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"
the bible clearly says God was ALONE.... and BY HIMSELF. this is bible, do you deny this? yes or no.
101G.
Bassnah
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We cannot make the mistake of subordinating all of God’s attributes to His love, Brother.
There is more to God than love. For example, He is all-knowing, He is everywhere present, He is infinite, He is eternal, and He is just. And John can even write “God is light” as seen in 1 John 1:5
Any time we discuss His love, we must remember that God “may display one attribute or another at a given time, but no quality is independent of or preeminent over any of the others. Whenever God displays His wrath, He is still love. When He shows His love, He does not abandon His holiness.”
The most used Greek word for love and the noblest word for love in Greek is agape. Agape is used to describe God’s very nature as well as the delight we get when sacrificing ourselves for the greater good of another or others. This type of love continues to love even when we may not feel it or deserve it; that's unconditional love. It seeks no reward, only wanting to give away the self. Such love of esteem or valuation desires only the good of the beloved. This is not a feeling type of love, but a doing type of love—an exercise of the will, a deliberate choice, commitment. Agape wills the good of another or others for the sake of another or others.
We cannot make the mistake of subordinating all of God’s attributes to His love, Brother.
There is more to God than love. For example, He is all-knowing, He is everywhere present, He is infinite, He is eternal, and He is just. And John can even write “God is light” as seen in 1 John 1:5
Any time we discuss His love, we must remember that God “may display one attribute or another at a given time, but no quality is independent of or preeminent over any of the others. Whenever God displays His wrath, He is still love. When He shows His love, He does not abandon His holiness.”
The most used Greek word for love and the noblest word for love in Greek is agape. Agape is used to describe God’s very nature as well as the delight we get when sacrificing ourselves for the greater good of another or others. This type of love continues to love even when we may not feel it or deserve it; that's unconditional love. It seeks no reward, only wanting to give away the self. Such love of esteem or valuation desires only the good of the beloved. This is not a feeling type of love, but a doing type of love—an exercise of the will, a deliberate choice, commitment. Agape wills the good of another or others for the sake of another or others.
101G
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To all,
in reference to the US at Genesis 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:"
and the reference at Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
this US and OUR is only one person speaking about himself to come in flesh and blood. the Lord Jesus who is God said that GOD is a "he", a single person. which Genesis 1:27 after Genesis 1:26, which clearly states God is ONE person.
and the Lord Jesus back this up in Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?" Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"
the Lord Jesus said God is a "he". which certify Genesis 1:27. which means we need to go back and find out why God said us and our in the verses given. common sense dictate we need to find out why God said us and our in these verses.
101G will be back after church, but think on these things.
In much G.L.
101G
101G.
in reference to the US at Genesis 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:"
and the reference at Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
this US and OUR is only one person speaking about himself to come in flesh and blood. the Lord Jesus who is God said that GOD is a "he", a single person. which Genesis 1:27 after Genesis 1:26, which clearly states God is ONE person.
and the Lord Jesus back this up in Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?" Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"
the Lord Jesus said God is a "he". which certify Genesis 1:27. which means we need to go back and find out why God said us and our in the verses given. common sense dictate we need to find out why God said us and our in these verses.
101G will be back after church, but think on these things.
In much G.L.
101G
101G.
Bassnah
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The English word agape is derived from agape; it means wide open. For example, the door of the room was agape. Or, upon hearing the good news, a person’s mouth was agape, that is, wide open. The surprise or wonder associated with agape is imbedded in agape, which is selfless love for others. Agape is also used to describe the earliest Christian community meal in commemoration of the Lord’s Supper because it not only demonstrated the self-sacrifice of Christ, but because it represented the openness of the members of the community to fellow members and to others (Jude 1:12).
Mark G. Boye
Mark G. Boye
I truly do believe what this scripture says, that God stretched out the heavens by Himself. That He is the only Creator. This verse doesn't say HE existed alone, only that HE stretched out the heavens alone, or as you say, "By Himself"
I stacked a cord of wood last week. I stacked the Wood "By myself", I alone, stacked the wood. My granddaughter watched me, but she did not stack the wood, I alone stacked the wood.. So, I wasn't alone, when I stacked the wood. But I alone, stacked the wood.
Duet. 32: 12 So "the LORD alone" did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.
Neh. 9: 6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
Ps. 86: 9 All nations whom thou hast made shall come and worship before thee, O Lord; and shall glorify thy name. 10 For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.
Is. 37: 16 O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.
IS. 44: 24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
The implication of your philosophy here, is that before God alone, created the heavens and earth, HE was a God of "Nothing". Only Himself.
I don't believe the Bible supports such a religious philosophy.
Bassnah
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“Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God . . . .” John 4:7
Because God is love, God is the source of love poured into creation. The self-sacrificing God freely shares his love with everything he made. Earlier in his First Letter, John exclaims, “See what love the Father has given us, that we should be called children of God” ( John 3:1a). In other words, the origin of all love, God, changes us by his love for us. Just as the love of one person for another changes the other, when God loves, people are changed by the source of love.
In his Letter to the Romans, Paul writes about “God’s love [that] has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit that has been given to us”. For the apostle, the vehicle of God’s love is the Holy Spirit. “. . .
God proves his love for us,” writes Paul, “in that while we still were sinners Christ died for us” Romans 5:8
If anyone needs proof that God loves people, the death of his own Son should be evidence enough.
Mark G. Boye
Because God is love, God is the source of love poured into creation. The self-sacrificing God freely shares his love with everything he made. Earlier in his First Letter, John exclaims, “See what love the Father has given us, that we should be called children of God” ( John 3:1a). In other words, the origin of all love, God, changes us by his love for us. Just as the love of one person for another changes the other, when God loves, people are changed by the source of love.
In his Letter to the Romans, Paul writes about “God’s love [that] has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit that has been given to us”. For the apostle, the vehicle of God’s love is the Holy Spirit. “. . .
God proves his love for us,” writes Paul, “in that while we still were sinners Christ died for us” Romans 5:8
If anyone needs proof that God loves people, the death of his own Son should be evidence enough.
Mark G. Boye
101G
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First thanks for the reply,
your example was good for humans. but God, scripture, Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."
"ME" here in the verse is s single person designation. now if there was another person ... who is God also, then God LIED, (God forbid). and to make God word perfect, meaning true, at the same time he (one person), eliminate any other ... "PERSON", scripture, Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:" here again there is no other person that is GOD. for the term beside means, 1. at the side of; next to. 2. compared with.
so, the example you gave, "I stacked a cord of wood last week. I stacked the Wood "By myself", I alone, stacked the wood. My granddaughter watched me". Isaiah 45:5 destroys your granddaughter watching you stack the wood alone and by yourself. because she is not there. LISTEN, Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me". the NONE ELSE, eliminates you granddaughter from watching you, because she was never there .... to watch you stack the wood.
Listen carefully. Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any." again "me" is a single person designation. and God said, "there is no God; he know not any beside him" again, the term beside means, 1. at the side of; next to. 2. compared with.
KNOWING this, if there is no God "beside" him, and it's not, only ONE PERSON, question, "WHO MADE ALL THINGS?", please read John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 again. and tell us if this is two persons, or ... "ONE in the SAME PERSON, looking to hear your answer.
In Much G.L.
101G
Nathan
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Here is a good one.
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
1 CORINTHIANS 13:6
Love doesn’t tear down others. Quite the contrary.
“Love builds up” 1 Cor. 8:1
“Whoever loves a brother or sister lives in the light and will not cause anyone to stumble” (1 John 2:10).
“You are sinning against Christ when you sin against other Christians by encouraging them to do something they believe is wrong” 1 Cor. 8:12
Do you want to know if your love for someone is true? If your friendship is genuine? Ask yourself: Do I influence this person to do what is right?
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
1 CORINTHIANS 13:6
Love doesn’t tear down others. Quite the contrary.
“Love builds up” 1 Cor. 8:1
“Whoever loves a brother or sister lives in the light and will not cause anyone to stumble” (1 John 2:10).
“You are sinning against Christ when you sin against other Christians by encouraging them to do something they believe is wrong” 1 Cor. 8:12
Do you want to know if your love for someone is true? If your friendship is genuine? Ask yourself: Do I influence this person to do what is right?
Selah
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Welcome, brother Nathan. Good to have you here.
Affinity
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I love it, I think that's why we are here on earth. Since the commandment to "love God and love your neighbor as yourself" is a fundamental teaching in Christianity. It emphasizes that one should love the Lord with all their heart, soul, mind, and strength, and also love their neighbor as they love themselves. This principle highlights the importance of understanding what love is and recognizing that we are loved, which is essential for loving others.
He answered, “’Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’ and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” Luke 19:27
We love Him because He first loved us. 1 John 4:19
Aeliana
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As I said, I don't believe your religious philosophy that God was a "God of nothing" before HE created the world we know, is supported by the ONE verse in the Bible that you use to promote it.
The philosophy that "God" wasn't a "God of the Living" before He created our world, is not supported anywhere in Scriptures, and certainly not in the Scripture you reference.
It's not a hill I am interested in dying on and I am not calling God a liar. I just don't believe in the interpretation of the Scripture you use to relegate God, "as a God of Nothing" before "our beginning".
You reference John 1.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.
I would ask, "In the beginning of what"? Will you then call Gods Word a Lie when HE says HE has no beginning and has no end? And therefore, if the Bible is true, and God has no beginning, then whose "beginning" is HE speaking to here?
Job 38: 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
How is this any different than my granddaughter watching me stack wood?
