Faith precedes life !

brightfame52 said:
They which are in the flesh, the unregenerate, cannot please God, duh Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. You going n circles
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Both unregenerates and regenerates that are "in the flesh" cannot please God. Duh.

(Rom 8:13) For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Stop running away from acknowledging who "you" is in Rom 8:13.
 
synergy said:
Both unregenerates and regenerates that are "in the flesh" cannot please God. Duh.

(Rom 8:13) For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Stop running away from acknowledging who "you" is in Rom 8:13.
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Man I already dealt with that, you going in circles like a puppy chasing his tail Rom 8:8
 
synergy said:
Both unregenerates and regenerates that are "in the flesh" cannot please God. Duh.

(Rom 8:13) For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Stop running away from acknowledging who "you" is in Rom 8:13.
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brightfame52 said:
Man I already dealt with that, you going in circles like a puppy chasing his tail Rom 8:8
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Since you offered no rebuttal, you agree that both unregenerates and regenerates that are "in the flesh" cannot please God. Excellent!!!

It is now obvious to all that Calvinism is Blind Trash!!!
 
synergy said:
Since you offered no rebuttal, you agree that both unregenerates and regenerates that are "in the flesh" cannot please God. Excellent!!!

It is now obvious to all that Calvinism is Blind Trash!!!
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Here is rebuttal

Man I already dealt with that, you going in circles like a puppy chasing his tail Rom 8:8
 
brightfame52 said:
Here is rebuttal

Man I already dealt with that, you going in circles like a puppy chasing his tail Rom 8:8
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Where??? This is your 2nd failure at a rebuttal against the fact that both unregenerates and regenerates that are "in the flesh" cannot please God. Do you want to go for more?
 
synergy said:
Where??? This is your 2nd failure at a rebuttal against the fact that both unregenerates and regenerates that are "in the flesh" cannot please God. Do you want to go for more?
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Look for it. This isnt elementary school. Learn how to keep up with posting and retain what you read
 
brightfame52 said:
Look for it. This isnt elementary school. Learn how to keep up with posting and retain what you read
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Although I have better things to do than to count how many times a calvinist avoids the truth of Bible verses, it is important to expose calvinist heretics so that people know the truth.

This is the 3rd time you have failed to acknowledge that Rom 8:13, along with Rom 8:8, prove that it is both unregenerates and regenerates who are "in the flesh" that cannot please God.
 
synergy said:
Although I have better things to do than to count how many times a calvinist avoids the truth of Bible verses, it is important to expose calvinist heretics so that people know the truth.

This is the 3rd time you have failed to acknowledge that Rom 8:13, along with Rom 8:8, prove that it is both unregenerates and regenerates who are "in the flesh" that cannot please God.
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All this blabbin and still Rom 8:8 you going in circles
 
brightfame52 said:
All this blabbin and still Rom 8:8 you going in circles
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Rom 8:8 and Rom 8:13 is NOT "babbin".

This is the 4th time you have failed to acknowledge that both Rom 8:8 and Rom 8:13 together prove that both unregenerates and regenerates who are "in the flesh" cannot please God.
 
Life must precede faith since b4 life given by the Spirit, the sinner lies dead in sin.


What are all these things promised in the gospel? They are those things contained in summary form in the Apostle’s Creed. This creed not only teaches us to confess faith in “God the Father and our creation,” and in “God the Son and our redemption,” but also in "God the Holy Ghost and our sanctification” (Lord’s Day 8,

The gospel includes the good news of the Holy Spirit and His work on behalf of a “holy catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and the life everlasting” (Lord’s Day 7, Q&A 23).

For the individual believer, the good news of the Spirit is that Jesus comes by His Spirit to raise dead sinners and call us out of the kingdom of darkness and into the kingdom of light. The good news is that Jesus comes by His Spirit to create saving faith in us, and to work and strengthen that faith. Wonder of wonders, that in a world of unbelief, we are made believers!
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synergy said:
Rom 8:8 and Rom 8:13 is NOT "babbin".

This is the 4th time you have failed to acknowledge that both Rom 8:8 and Rom 8:13 together prove that both unregenerates and regenerates who are "in the flesh" cannot please God.
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You going around the circles, Rom 8:8 remains unchanged, they which are in the flesh cannot please God

8 ;So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. And Faith pleases God, so they which are in the flesh cannot exercise Faith in Christ.
It pleases God, its a commandment that please Him 1 Jn 3:22-23

22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

Now how can someone in the flesh keep that commandment and be doing something pleasing in Gods sight ? It cannot be done, not ever
 
The Faith that embraces the Faith, must be holy and the Faith in which it embraces is Holy,

Jude 1:20

20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

Now Faith here can be subjective or objective for both are true,

The subjective Faith we have is of the operation of the Holy Spirit Gal 5:22; 2 Thess 2:13 and the objective "the faith" is Holy,

Matthew Poole's Commentary

Building up yourselves; he compares them to a house, which is to be built up, whereof faith is the foundation: the same metaphor is used, 1 Corinthians 4:9 Ephesians 2:20-22 1 Peter 2:5.

Most holy; so he calls faith, as being the means of purifying their hearts, and working holiness in them; and in opposition to the false faith of the heretics he warns them against, which did consist with so much impurity.

Faith; this may be understood either:

1. Of the grace of faith; and then that is compared to the foundation, as being the first and principal grace in a Christian, and of greatest necessity and use; and then they are here bid to build themselves up in other graces which follow upon faith, as 2 Peter 1:5. Or:

2. Of the doctrine of faith, that on which their faith itself is founded; and then the meaning is, that they should not rest satisfied in what measure of faith they had already attained, but still be improving it, and making further progress in it, not only hold fast the truth of the gospel, the right foundation on which they had begun to be built, but get themselves, by the due study and meditation of the word, more and more confirmed in the belief of it.
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The Holy Doctrine of Faith is embraced and received by the Holy Grace of Faith Rom 1:1:16-17

16 ;For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Now we men by nature are unholy, and will oppose that which is Holy, it takes a holy nature and heart to embrace holy truth
 

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