Exegesis and Eisegesis. What Are These Terms?

[jeremiah1five]

False, unless you believe that

• Men can deceive God. The text says:"When God saw their actions, that they turned from their evil ways, He changed His mind about the disaster that He had said He would bring upon them, and He did not do it." (Jonah 3:10)

That is the same false interpretation found in Gentile textbooks of how God saw the wickedness of men that their thoughts were evil continually, and it REPENTED God created man? That God "changed His mind"?
God doesn't have a change of heart. What God has ordained to happen will happen and it is for our benefit that appears that God changes His Mind or "repents "of His acts. God is not a man that He should lie nor a God who changes His Mind. God knows the end from the beginning because He's ORDAINED the end.

• Jesus was wrong. He said: "The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and will condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah." (Matthew 12:41)

This repentance had nothing to do with the eternal salvation God promised Israel. In one or two generations later while that generation that repented was still alive God destroyed Nineveh so extensively that to find where Nineveh existed one has to dig deep into the sand.

CONCLUSION:

God loved the non-Hebrew people of Nineveh. God sent Jonah to them to preach repentance. They repented. God accepted their repentance. Your claim that such repentance was not genuine is unsupported. It has been refuted.

Again, such repentance has nothing to do with eternal salvation for the repentance was foreign and completely separated from the covenant promises of salvation and deliverance God gave Abraham and his seed. God loves and God hates. Both derive from a Sovereign will and purpose. If God loves "you", God will save "you." If God doesn't love "you" God will not save "you." That is the whole theme of His covenant with Abraham and those that obey Him and those not in covenant and the wrath of God ABIDES on "them." There's a reason why Jesus says, "already condemned" in John 3. If they are already condemned in the first century with no hope of changing their trajectory towards the eternal separation from God, He doesn't state "already condemned" and later change His Mond and sees their repentance and changes His judgment from "already condemned" to a full pardon. The only people who are the recipients of God's gracious pardon are those who've made it to the New Covenant era and the performance and application of the substitutionary sacrifice of the Lamb of God for those in the Abrahamic and Mosaic Covenant who were "kept" until Faith should appear? And Faith appeared in the Person of the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL by the prophet Joel.

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Gal. 4:4–5.

Many Prodigal Sons that form a long, long, line back to their Father. You see, this parable states the Prodigal Son began as a son and ended as a son. Once a son, always a son. It is impossible to un-son oneself from their biological parentage. God contemplated His elect people in His Mind in eternity BEFORE He created heaven, earth, and man. God more than animated the formed clay in Genesis when He blew into the nostrils of man and man became a living soul. Follow the lineage in Matthew and Luke and see the sonship of the biological people that was [the son] of God and who "begat" who in the blessed family line of God.

That may be the result of a returned of wickedness of other generation... or part a broader plan for them in the afterlife.
Afterall, God allows earthquakes, wars and diseases to destroy the life of Hebrews and not Hebrews alike, good and bad, believers and unbelievers. Isn't that so?

There is no "plan" for anyone in the afterlife. The afterlife IS the plan, whether one is hid in Christ in God and who is eternally separated from God. When Jesus said of Judas in John 6 that he was a "son of perdition" the word "perdition" defined as "ruin" has three senses in which to interpret its use in a given verse where it is found. The three senses are "physical, spiritual, and eternal" ruin. How "perdition" or ruin applied to Judas was not eternal ruin because Judas was personally "named [them] apostle(s)" (Lk. 6:12-13), and there are no apostles of the lamb in "hell." It wasn't physical ruin of Judas because the Holy Spirit had not yet been sent to Israel. It was a physical ruin because Judas did commit suicide in obedience to the Law of Moses and Scripture does say "his bowels gushed out", so Physical ruin does fit its usage of Judas being a son of perdition. Among other reasons - all biblical - is why I receive Judas as being with the Lord and eternally secure in his redemption. What I am saying is that the twenty-three thousand that were wiped out by God for worshiping the golden calf merely lost their physical lives and not their eternal lives since their eternal lives are forever connected to the covenant they were under is the same when God sends rain upon the good and evil or the just and the unjust of His people despite themselves. So, a person's perdition is dependent upon when they met their ruin - Old Testament or New Testament - and who they are and whether they are in covenant with God or not.

 

[jeremiah1five]

God revealed in the Quran: We sent a messenger to every nation, saying: “Worship God, and shun the powers of evil!” (16:36)

وَلَقَدۡ بَعَثۡنَا فِی كُلِّ أُمَّةࣲ رَّسُولًا أَنِ ٱعۡبُدُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَٱجۡتَنِبُوا۟ ٱلطَّـٰغُوتَۖ فَمِنۡهُم مَّنۡ هَدَى ٱللَّهُ وَمِنۡهُم مَّنۡ حَقَّتۡ عَلَیۡهِ ٱلضَّلَـٰلَةُۚ فَسِیرُوا۟ فِی ٱلۡأَرۡضِ فَٱنظُرُوا۟ كَیۡفَ كَانَ عَـٰقِبَةُ ٱلۡمُكَذِّبِینَ

The term for "nation", ummatin, refers to any tribe, ethnic or linguistic group. Any group of people that sees itself as a community.
This goes in line with the vision of the multitude in Book of Revelation, which came "from all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues"

I know you don't believe that God is the Author of the Quran. Then I ask you "Why do you believe that it is God, and not Satan, the author of your theory of God's love?
What is more compatible with the character of the God you worship: the Quranic claim that God has sent a messenger to every nation, or the claim that He loves only Hebrews?

I find no covenant of salvation in the Hebrew Scripture between God and non-Hebrews.
I know of no non-Hebrew Gentile Scriptures recording a history and culture receiving the blessings, protection, provision, or statements of eternal glory in the end of life for the non-Hebrew Gentiles, nor are there any non-Hebrew Gentile prophets who prophesy to and for non-Hebrew Gentiles of their salvation nor also of non-Hebrew prophets writing down their prophecies of a future, or now past, atonement for sin for that people with similar substitutionary sacrifice been made of non-Hebrew Gentiles by a non-Hebrew Gentile Savior in order to save non-Hebrew Gentiles. Rather I find non-Hebrew Gentiles piggybacking on the Hebrew covenants and erroneously interpreting the Hebrew Scripture to their benefit in a lost and failed attempt at stealing everything God gave to the Hebrew people for their security and salvation.

Do you?
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[Pancho Frijoles]

I find no covenant of salvation in the Hebrew Scripture between God and non-Hebrews.

Good morning Jeremiah

Salvation does not depend on a written covenant.
A written covenant is just one tool, method, form that God relates with men.

I know of no non-Hebrew Gentile Scriptures recording a history and culture receiving the blessings, protection, provision, or statements of eternal glory in the end of life for the non-Hebrew Gentiles,

You don't know them yet. But you may know.
Zoroaster was a Messenger of God, that established truths as One Universal God, a God who does not save people based on genetic lineage, a God to which we all will be held accountable. A moral God who expects from us to be moral.
Were it not for the influence that Jews got from Zorastrian revelation during their exile in Babylon, Hebrew religion and Scriptures would not have been what they are now.

nor are there any non-Hebrew Gentile prophets who prophesy to and for non-Hebrew Gentiles of their salvation nor also of non-Hebrew prophets writing down their prophecies of a future, or now past, atonement for sin for that people with similar substitutionary sacrifice been made of non-Hebrew Gentiles by a non-Hebrew Gentile Savior in order to save non-Hebrew Gentiles. Rather I find non-Hebrew Gentiles piggybacking on the Hebrew covenants

If non-Hebrews are piggybacking on the Hebrew covenants, that's a good thing.
Hebrews also piggybacked on Persian Zoroastrians.
All religions have influenced each other, and all have a single ultimate source: God, who "has made from one blood every nation of men to live on the entire face of the earth, having appointed fixed times and the boundaries of their habitation, that they should seek the Lord so perhaps they might reach for Him and find Him"

and erroneously interpreting the Hebrew Scripture to their benefit in a lost and failed attempt at stealing

They are not "stealing". God's love is not the property of any ethnic group.
In any case, if they are "stealing", that "stealing" is a very good thing.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

That is the same false interpretation found in Gentile textbooks of how God saw the wickedness of men that their thoughts were evil continually, and it REPENTED God created man? That God "changed His mind"?

God didn't "changed His mind" about Nineveh. This is is just a metaphor.
God's plans and sovereignty included the salvation of people from Nineveh. He sees the end from the beginning.
By the same token, God does not "hate". God is love. So, this is just a metaphor.

God doesn't have a change of heart. What God has ordained to happen will happen and it is for our benefit that appears that God changes His Mind or "repents "of His acts. God is not a man that He should lie nor a God who changes His Mind. God knows the end from the beginning because He's ORDAINED the end.

This repentance had nothing to do with the eternal salvation God promised Israel.

Then why was God interested in people from Nineveh getting repented? Why did He send a prophet to them?
Why does God show compassion for Nineveh people?
The compassion God showed for them is the compassion He shows for you and for me.

In one or two generations later while that generation that repented was still alive God destroyed Nineveh so extensively that to find where Nineveh existed one has to dig deep into the sand.

Jerusalem was also destroyed. Many cities have been destroyed, either by men, or by natural catastrophes.
Millions of Jews have been murdered in persecutions across history. This has nothing to do with God saving their souls.

Again, such repentance has nothing to do with eternal salvation for the repentance was foreign and completely separated from the covenant promises of salvation and deliverance God gave Abraham and his seed.

Eternal salvation DOES NOT depend on a written covenant with a given nation.
Your thesis has absolutely no support.
If your thesis was right, we would not observe God acting in the lives of millions of people of all ethnic origins.

God loves and God hates.

God cannot "change his mind". Can He? He is God. "Changing his mind" is just a metaphor.
God cannot "hate". Can He? He is God. God is Love. "Hating" is just a metaphor.

You can hate, Jeremiah. God cannot.
Christ asks you to love your enemies, because God also loves them.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Dear Readers

As you can note through these exchanges, our brother @jeremiah1five does not answer any question related to the MORALITY of his beliefs.
He is not interested in examining whether something is GOOD or EVIL.
He rejects thinking in his childhood as a privileged spiritual state that we must preserve during our lives. A state in which we know, intuitively (ie, by revelation of the Holy Spirit) what is good and what is evil. He evades the spiritual purity of a child emphasizing their intellectual immaturity.
By repeating over and over what he thinks the Hebrew Scripture teaches, he is not interested in asking himself WHY he has chosen to believe what he believes.


So let me share with you WHY I am a Baha'i.

I am a Baha'i because I have chosen to think that, in the big picture, TRUTH and GOOD are intimately associated.
God is True because He is Good. He is Good because He is True.
I'm not interested in worshiping an evil god, because by definition, an evil god is false.

Bah'au'lláh teaches that all men are leaves of the same tree, flowers of the same garden. That all men are submerged into the Ocean of His Mercy.
God is One, Religion is One, Humanity is One. I find this to be GOOD, and therefore, TRUE.

 

[jeremiah1five]

But why don't you consider that to be evil?

There's nothing evil about the Abraham Covenant.

I'm sure you would have considered that evil some years ago, am I right? Please share with us, if you are comfortable with it, what happened in your life. As you know, millions of Christians define themselves as born-again and have studied the Scriptures... including brilliant theologians, and do not believe what you believe. So, what led you to take this different direction?

That's fine.
But no one has been able to answer a simple question:

Moses describes and records the Abraham Covenant in Genesis 12, 15, and 17. Where in these passages does God name or mention non-Hebrew Gentiles included in this covenant? And let's not interpret "families of the earth" as non-Hebrews, especially since the covenant extends to Abraham's seed/descendants and "families of the earth" refer to his descendants.

Thanks for your comment, but my question was about the morality of such beliefs.
Do such beliefs help you to treat better other people, to help them in their needs... do such beliefs make you find more joy in life?

That depends on who needs help and what their needs entail.
The joy I find in life is in being obedient to God and His Word. But in order to be obedient I must first rightly understand what God says in His Word. I take out my doctrine from the Scripture. I don't add to it things God hasn't said in His Word.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Good morning Jeremiah
Salvation does not depend on a written covenant.

No, not originally. It depended on the spoken Word of God. Later, it was committed to writing.

A written covenant is just one tool, method, form that God relates with men.

God relates to men on the basis of covenant and non-covenant.

You don't know them yet. But you may know.
Zoroaster was a Messenger of God, that established truths as One Universal God, a God who does not save people based on genetic lineage, a God to which we all will be held accountable. A moral God who expects from us to be moral.
Were it not for the influence that Jews got from Zorastrian revelation during their exile in Babylon, Hebrew religion and Scriptures would not have been what they are now.

Zoroaster was not Hebrew. All the prophets of the Hebrew covenant were Hebrew.

If non-Hebrews are piggybacking on the Hebrew covenants, that's a good thing.
Hebrews also piggybacked on Persian Zoroastrians.
All religions have influenced each other, and all have a single ultimate source: God, who "has made from one blood every nation of men to live on the entire face of the earth, having appointed fixed times and the boundaries of their habitation, that they should seek the Lord so perhaps they might reach for Him and find Him"


They are not "stealing". God's love is not the property of any ethnic group.
In any case, if they are "stealing", that "stealing" is a very good thing.

They can "piggyback" all they want on the Hebrew covenants. They're just not included in any of the Hebrew covenants.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Dear Readers

As you can note through these exchanges, our brother @jeremiah1five does not answer any question related to the MORALITY of his beliefs.
He is not interested in examining whether something is GOOD or EVIL.
He rejects thinking in his childhood as a privileged spiritual state that we must preserve during our lives. A state in which we know, intuitively (ie, by revelation of the Holy Spirit) what is good and what is evil. He evades the spiritual purity of a child emphasizing their intellectual immaturity.
By repeating over and over what he thinks the Hebrew Scripture teaches, he is not interested in asking himself WHY he has chosen to believe what he believes.


So let me share with you WHY I am a Baha'i.

I am a Baha'i because I have chosen to think that, in the big picture, TRUTH and GOOD are intimately associated.
God is True because He is Good. He is Good because He is True.
I'm not interested in worshiping an evil god, because by definition, an evil god is false.

Bah'au'lláh teaches that all men are leaves of the same tree, flowers of the same garden. That all men are submerged into the Ocean of His Mercy.
God is One, Religion is One, Humanity is One. I find this to be GOOD, and therefore, TRUE.

Yeah, you keep believing that. Good luck with it.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Dear Readers

As you can note through these exchanges, our brother @jeremiah1five does not answer any question related to the MORALITY of his beliefs.

In order to be considered "my brother" requires that we have the same Father. Obviously, we do not.

He is not interested in examining whether something is GOOD or EVIL.
He rejects thinking in his childhood as a privileged spiritual state that we must preserve during our lives. A state in which we know, intuitively (ie, by revelation of the Holy Spirit) what is good and what is evil. He evades the spiritual purity of a child emphasizing their intellectual immaturity.
By repeating over and over what he thinks the Hebrew Scripture teaches, he is not interested in asking himself WHY he has chosen to believe what he believes.

I know that your "Baha'i is a false religion of eastern origin.

So let me share with you WHY I am a Baha'i.

I am a Baha'i because I have chosen to think that, in the big picture, TRUTH and GOOD are intimately associated.
God is True because He is Good. He is Good because He is True.
I'm not interested in worshiping an evil god, because by definition, an evil god is false.

Bah'au'lláh teaches that all men are leaves of the same tree, flowers of the same garden. That all men are submerged into the Ocean of His Mercy.
God is One, Religion is One, Humanity is One. I find this to be GOOD, and therefore, TRUE.

It can teach all it wants. It's still a false religion.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

In order to be considered "my brother" requires that we have the same Father. Obviously, we do not.

Well, the Bahai Faith teaches that we are brothers and son of the same Father.

I know that your "Baha'i is a false religion of eastern origin.

Well, the Bahai Faith does not think that people will burn due to their genetic background.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

There's nothing evil about the Abraham Covenant.

Of course there is nothing evil about the Abraham Covenant.
I'm talking about your beliefs about people who are not under Abraham Covenant. Those are evil.

But no one has been able to answer a simple question:
Moses describes and records the Abraham Covenant in Genesis 12, 15, and 17. Where in these passages does God name or mention non-Hebrew Gentiles included in this covenant?

Nowhere.
Where in the Avesta are the Hebrews mentioned?
You are trying to find mentioning about non-Hebrews to Scriptures written by Hebrews to Hebrews.

I take out my doctrine from the Scripture.

No, you don't.

• Scripture has refuted you concerning the exclusivity of the gospel for "mixed heritage Jews", in the episodes of Cornelius and Paul in the Areopagus.
• Scripture has refuted your beliefs regarding Nineveh,
• Scripture has refuted you in the minimization of the importance of being seed of Abraham
• Scripture has refuted you in that Jesus came to address sin in all people

You are rather imposing the beliefs you cherish on Scripture.
Although this is important, it looks trivial compared to the big question: WHY DO YOU CHOOSE EVIL OVER GOOD?

 

[jeremiah1five]

Well, the Bahai Faith teaches that we are brothers and son of the same Father.


Well, the Bahai Faith does not think that people will burn due to their genetic background.

The Scripture says differently and I believe the Scripture:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Gen. 3:15.

So, Baha'i is seed of the serpent and true, biblical Christians are seed of the woman and of God.

So, your Baha'i religion is false.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Of course there is nothing evil about the Abraham Covenant.
I'm talking about your beliefs about people who are not under Abraham Covenant. Those are evil.

Nowhere.
Where in the Avesta are the Hebrews mentioned?
You are trying to find mentioning about non-Hebrews to Scriptures written by Hebrews to Hebrews.

No, you don't.

• Scripture has refuted you concerning the exclusivity of the gospel for "mixed heritage Jews", in the episodes of Cornelius and Paul in the Areopagus.
• Scripture has refuted your beliefs regarding Nineveh,
• Scripture has refuted you in the minimization of the importance of being seed of Abraham
• Scripture has refuted you in that Jesus came to address sin in all people

You are rather imposing the beliefs you cherish on Scripture.
Although this is important, it looks trivial compared to the big question: WHY DO YOU CHOOSE EVIL OVER GOOD?

You're a waste of my time. Hold to your false religion and go to hell. I won't stop you.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

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You're a waste of my time. Hold to your false religion and go to hell. I won't stop you.

Dear readers

I know that our brother @jeremiah1five he will embrace God's purpose with human family and enjoy his presence forever.
He has been a blessing for me in making me challenge my own views and asking myself why I believe what I believe.

Here is a summary of the arguments against his genetic-based soteriology.

FIRST. The Hebrew Scripture is primarily a text describing the covenants between God and a particular people: Israel. So, we cannot expect the Bible to describe the relationship between God and other peoples of the earth. Such relationship can be appreciated through other means: for example, by the observation of their material, intellectual and spiritual development, as well as through other sacred texts.

SECOND. No Jewish scholar has ever sustained that non-Hebrews will be destroyed by God because of their genetic lineages. They all agree that Gentiles cannot be judged according to the covenants made by God specifically with Israel.

THIRD. Although the Bible was primarily written for Israelites, it still displays God's interest for humanity. Examples like this include the plan of God to send Jonah to Niniveh and forgive their sins, the high esteem God displays for Cyrus, the praise Jesus gave to a Roman centurion, the case of Cornelius, and the speech of Paul in the Areopagus, among other passages. There is no single evidence that these people were preached to or forgiven on the basis of a genetic connection with Hebrews.

FOURTH. The gospels and apostolic letters were written decades after Christ death, when the gospel was already being preached to Non-Hebrew people. The inspired authors made no effort whatsoever in teaching that access to God's mercy depends on a having a specific genetic lineage. The undeserved grace of God is given to any person who comes with a contrite, broken heart, and believes he can be healed.

FIVE. The notions of good and evil are embedded within our families during our childhood. The authors of the Bible, in fact, take for granted that their readers had these basic notions. Considering fair that people are destroyed or tortured due to their ethnicity is evil, as any child knows, and any theology that upholds a genetic-based salvation is evil and should be firmly opposed.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Dear readers

I know that our brother @jeremiah1five he will embrace God's purpose with human family and enjoy his presence forever.
He has been a blessing for me in making me challenge my own views and asking myself why I believe what I believe.

Here is a summary of the arguments against his genetic-based soteriology.

FIRST. The Hebrew Scripture is primarily a text describing the covenants between God and a particular people: Israel. So, we cannot expect the Bible to describe the relationship between God and other peoples of the earth. Such relationship can be appreciated through other means: for example, by the observation of their material, intellectual and spiritual development, as well as through other sacred texts.

There is only ONE sacred text that matters. The Hebrew Scripture.

SECOND. No Jewish scholar has ever sustained that non-Hebrews will be destroyed by God because of their genetic lineages. They all agree that Gentiles cannot be judged according to the covenants made by God specifically with Israel.

Correction. Although Jews don't see the New Testament the way you do such as on par with their Hebrew Scripture I'm sure if you showed them this they would agree.

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Gal. 4:4–5.

David's attitude about those unclean uncircumcised Philistines was genuine hatred for those dogs and any other Gentile dog that says wrong things about the One True God.

THIRD. Although the Bible was primarily written for Israelites, it still displays God's interest for humanity. Examples like this include the plan of God to send Jonah to Niniveh and forgive their sins, the high esteem God displays for Cyrus, the praise Jesus gave to a Roman centurion, the case of Cornelius, and the speech of Paul in the Areopagus, among other passages. There is no single evidence that these people were preached to or forgiven on the basis of a genetic connection with Hebrews.

The repentance of Nineveh had nothing to do with salvation because there was no covenant assigned to such salvation attributes and terms. God destroyed that people anyway along with Assyria using the Babylonians for attacking Israel's ten northern kingdom tribes (Israel.) Then, God destroyed Babylon by the Medes and Persians for attacking the two southern kingdom tribes (Judah.) And get this, it was God who sent them both to attack Israel and Judah in the first place and God turns around and judges THEM for it. God is so cool.

FOURTH. The gospels and apostolic letters were written decades after Christ death, when the gospel was already being preached to Non-Hebrew people. The inspired authors made no effort whatsoever in teaching that access to God's mercy depends on a having a specific genetic lineage. The undeserved grace of God is given to any person who comes with a contrite, broken heart, and believes he can be healed.

That's what you think. Jesus sent His disciples and apostles to the Hebrews living in Gentile lands with one message: Your Messiah had come, and God has kept His Promises made to your fathers. The 90% Hebrews alive remained in Gentile lands and the 10% remnant returned with Nehemiah to the Holy Land. The 90% knew nothing about Messiah until Jews returning from Pentecost filled with the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL went back to their homes and synagogues testifying about the thousands of Jews that experienced God's Spirit and they shared an outline of Peter's sermon because they were excited beyond description that God hasn't forgotten them.
Twenty three Jews were born again and not one Gentile. God is so cool.

FIVE. The notions of good and evil are embedded within our families during our childhood. The authors of the Bible, in fact, take for granted that their readers had these basic notions. Considering fair that people are destroyed or tortured due to their ethnicity is evil, as any child knows, and any theology that upholds a genetic-based salvation is evil and should be firmly opposed.

It goes back to Adam and the woman. They were created sinful which is why they sinned because as you may know sin comes from sinner.
God is so cool.

Get your doctrine in compliance with Scripture because your heresy is showing.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Although Jews don't see the New Testament the way you do such as on par with their Hebrew Scripture I'm sure if you showed them this they would agree.

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Gal. 4:4–5.

No Jew rabbi or scholar has ever thought that God will burn all non-Hebrews.
This includes Orthodox, Reformed, Liberal, Conservative, and certainly, Messianic Jews.

You claim to value Hebrew Scriptures over any other thing, but you refuse to pay heed to those who were born into the covenants and have valued and studied those covenants for millennia.

 

[jeremiah1five]

No Jew rabbi or scholar has ever thought that God will burn all non-Hebrews.
This includes Orthodox, Reformed, Liberal, Conservative, and certainly, Messianic Jews.

You claim to value Hebrew Scriptures over any other thing, but you refuse to pay heed to those who were born into the covenants and have valued and studied those covenants for millennia.

That's the difference between exegesis and eisegesis. Back in the day when Israel's history was being unfolded no Jew ever loved Gentiles, and no Gentile ever loved the Jew. The Romans were hated by the Jews and Gentiles hate the Jews. It's called antisemitism and those that indulge themselves in it end up being destroyed. "I will curse them that curseth thee."
Remember it.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

It's called antisemitism and those that indulge themselves in it end up being destroyed. "I will curse them that curseth thee."
Remember it.

Of course I remember it.
I believe that all Jewish people are saved. Past Jews, current Jews, future Jews.
Jews who died as Jews. Jews who died as Christians. Jews who died as Muslims.
Reformed Jews, Ultra-orthodox Jews, Messianic Jews.
Communist Jews, free-market Jews.
Ashekanazi Jews, Sephardic Jews, Ethiopian Jews.
Do you believe the same?

 

[jeremiah1five]

Of course I remember it.
I believe that all Jewish people are saved. Past Jews, current Jews, future Jews.
Jews who died as Jews. Jews who died as Christians. Jews who died as Muslims.
Reformed Jews, Ultra-orthodox Jews, Messianic Jews.
Communist Jews, free-market Jews.
Ashekanazi Jews, Sephardic Jews, Ethiopian Jews.
Do you believe the same?

It's important that they believe the same and the same is found in Scripture.

 

[synergy]

It's important that they believe the same and the same is found in Scripture.

Who is your favorite Jew? Could it possibly be Paul who was the Apostle to the Gentiles via the New Covenant. Don't be shy. Come out and say that you love Paul.