Exegesis and Eisegesis. What Are These Terms?

Your defiled conscience is causing your antisemitic, racist, mind to refuse the most probable conclusion to this question. First, the Hebrew Scripture (Old Testament) is a record by God of His relationship with the Hebrew people covering thousands of years and Gentiles who claim to be in the Abraham Covenant (THEY ARE NOT) don't have anything like this to call their own so they steal what God gave to Israel by way of covenants and salvation and make the Hebrew Scripture their own; second, that it is true that ONLY Hebrews have salvation covenant with God and that they are the only people to be delivered from sin and death and that the Abraham Covenant that started it all is strictly and biblically between God, Abram the Hebrew, and Abram's Hebrew seed and that if a presumed "Gentile" who is having trouble with this truth must have a Hebrew parent in their ancestry the way the Samaritan woman at the well had a Hebrew in her ancestry and that the only way to salvation is to be Abraham's seed.

Your racist mind refuses to understand that you must have a Hebrew parent somewhere in your ancestry and that just causes tremendous shudders in your racist soul.
Doesn't it?
Yes, it does.
So, racist, how does it feel to have a Hebrew parent in your family? Do you experience persecution for your race? Probably not since you've chosen to be Gentile despite having at least one Hebrew parent in your family.
I love Paul and all other Apostles who are almost all Jewish. So in what way am I "racist" or "antisemitic"?????

What's happening is that your Ethnic Cleansing spirit has been exposed with its pants down and is desperately trying to save face by spewing out lies and vitriol against Paul and his Epistles, and Christians.

Tell us the name of your Ethnic Cleansing spirit. We need it to precede with the exorcism.
 
I love Paul and all other Apostles who are almost all Jewish. So in what way am I "racist" or "antisemitic"?????
Almost Jewish? What kind of racist remark is that? The Word of God is given to the Hebrew people also known as the "Jews" (in general.) God never gave His Holy Word to Gentiles and yet here we are in the 21st century and Gentiles fill pulpits attempting to teach Gentiles about Hebrew history, culture, and lessons from their own Scripture. All the writers of the bible, from Genesis to Revelation were written by Hebrews to and for other Hebrews. Not even God gives that which is Holy (His Word) to dogs (Gentiles.) All the prophets and apostles of God were sent to the Hebrew people because that's who God has covenant with.
What's happening is that your Ethnic Cleansing spirit has been exposed with its pants down and is desperately trying to save face by spewing out lies and vitriol against Paul and his Epistles, and Christians.
Who did God promise land to, and who is the rightful inheritors of that Promised Land? He promised it to Abraham and his seed, a people later to be identified as the children of Israel. When God fulfills this promise then the Hebrew people will have their land all to themselves and there will be NO GHENTILES living inside its borders. As a matter of fact Scripture records that Gentiles will be living OUTSIDE the Promised Land and through the god of their world make one final attempt to destroy Israel, but God says fire from heaven comes down and consumes all the Gentiles trying to attack Israel.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Revelation 20:7–10.

It's going to happen. God finally and eternally destroys all non-Hebrew Gentiles because God has no covenant with Gentiles and He will end all their attempts to destroy the apple of His eye, His Brise and Church Israel. You should give God all the glory for taking care of Israel's enemies.
Tell us the name of your Ethnic Cleansing spirit. We need it to precede with the exorcism.
Gentiles have no power over the spirit realm. It's a lie and a delusion you have to think you do. When the fire from heaven falls make sure you're on the right side of the Word of God or you'll get burned.
 
God never gave His Holy Word to Gentiles
How do you know?

and yet here we are in the 21st century and Gentiles fill pulpits attempting to teach Gentiles about Hebrew history, culture, and lessons from their own Scripture.
I agree with you on that. I include myself among those who, in ignorance or arrogance, want to instruct Hebrews in their own language, culture and Scriptures. I apologize for that. I prefer to learn from you and in this Forum, I often encourage people to consult Jewish rabbis.

Having said that, it is also important that you don't judge God's interaction with other cultures without knowing their perspective, language, culture, etc. Just as an example, the contributions of God's revelation through Zoroaster were very important in the formation of Judaism, as recognized by several authors.

So, one thing is that a specific covenant was made only with the people of Israel. I agree on that.
A very different thing, though, is to think that God did not reveal his Will to other nations.


All the writers of the bible, from Genesis to Revelation were written by Hebrews to and for other Hebrews.
That's exactly why you shouldn't judge God's revelation to other nations from the limited scope of the Tanakh.

Not even God gives that which is Holy (His Word) to dogs (Gentiles.)
Would Jewish rabbis agree with you in calling the Nations "dogs"?


It's going to happen. God finally and eternally destroys all non-Hebrew Gentiles because God has no covenant with Gentiles ... When the fire from heaven falls make sure you're on the right side of the Word of God or you'll get burned.

Could you, my brother, stand here in front of the Forum and voluntarily disclose your name, nationality, place of residence and photograph, so that we can know who considers just and fair the destruction of non-Hebrews?
Are you ready to face the consequences of spreading hate and a pro-genocidal discourse in the Internet?
Or do you prefer to hide under a nickname? It's your right, brother.

From my side, I have no problem in standing in front of you and the world and speaking my mind. Look:

I am Francisco Enrique Camacho Mezquita, 58-year-old male, married, Baha'i, Mexican. I was born in Oaxaca and live in Mexico City. I am a medical doctor with specialty in Infectious Diseases and I work in Pharmacovigilance for a Clinical Research Organization. My real photo is the one in my avatar and you can find me in Facebook.
I firmly oppose any idea that considers fair the destruction of any human group based on ethnicity and/or religion. I regard such idea as repugnant, perverse, and highly dangerous.


I'm reporting your post to the @Administrator immediately.
 
That's all just take a deep breath and calm down. The main reason we started BAM Was to provide a place where we share our religious beliefs In a safe environment. Without harassment or being called names. Jesus said to love your enemies. Let's try that on for size. :)

I really don't care much for being the playground monitor but any posts after this one that don't comply with the rules will be deleted.
 
How do you know?
The Scripture itself makes these claims.
There is significant evidence in the Bible that God's word was given specifically to Israel.

Here are some key passages that support this:
  • The Covenant with Abraham: God made a covenant with Abraham, promising to make him a great nation and to bless all the nations of the earth through his descendants (Genesis 12:1-3). This covenant established Israel as a unique people chosen by God.
6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Deut. 7:6.

Even ABOVE Mexicans.
  • The Law at Sinai: God gave the Ten Commandments and other laws to the Israelites at Mount Sinai, establishing a covenant relationship between them and God (Exodus 20-24). These laws were intended to guide Israel's behavior and relationship with God.
God GAVE His Word to Moses to and for the children of Israel. Later, the Moral Laws were placed inside the Ark of the Covenant. The Ark is and was possessed by the children of Israel. God's Word was given to THEM.
  • The Prophets: The prophets, such as Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, were specifically sent to Israel to deliver God's messages. Their prophecies often addressed Israel's sins and shortcomings, but also contained promises of restoration and hope. Their writings - after their vocalizations - were kept by the people identified as the children of Israel. NO Gentiles were part of this relationship between God and Abraham's seed. NO GENTILES were ever given God's Word. Even the New Covenant writings from Matthew to Revelation were written by Jews and Jewish Christians to the Church Christ built populated by Jews and the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL was NEVER promised to non-Hebrew Gentiles.
Speaking to the twelve tribes present for the Jewish Feast of Harvest Peter says to them:

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Acts 2:38–39.

God never gave His Word nor His Spirit to non-Hebrew Gentiles.
I agree with you on that. I include myself among those who, in ignorance or arrogance, want to instruct Hebrews in their own language, culture and Scriptures. I apologize for that. I prefer to learn from you and in this Forum, I often encourage people to consult Jewish rabbis.
Having said that, it is also important that you don't judge God's interaction with other cultures without knowing their perspective, language, culture, etc. Just as an example, the contributions of God's revelation through Zoroaster were very important in the formation of Judaism, as recognized by several authors.
The only interaction between God and non-Hebrews is one of unatoned judgement against them. There is no positive relationship between God and non-Hebrews except one of hostility and destruction in which God judges all nations He brings against His Chosen people Israel. You have been indoctrinated by Constantinian Gentile theology which has for 1900 replaced Israel as God's Chosen people and stolen terms God used to identify His covenant people, terms like "Bride" and "Church" and "saints." You need to reject all that theology, take a step back and search the Scripture without all that Gentile bias and garbage.
So, one thing is that a specific covenant was made only with the people of Israel. I agree on that.
A very different thing, though, is to think that God did not reveal his Will to other nations.
God has revealed His will towards non-Hebrew Gentile nations and it is contained in the Hebrew Scripture from Genesis to Revelation, specifically the end of this people found in Revelation 20:

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Rev. 20:7–10.

This is the attitude of God towards all non-Hebrew Gentile nations:

17 All nations before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.
That's exactly why you shouldn't judge God's revelation to other nations from the limited scope of the Tanakh.
What is important for God's holy people is to say the same thing as God. To say and do otherwise is to oppose Him. Peter opposed God and was rebuked for it.
Would Jewish rabbis agree with you in calling the Nations "dogs"?
Only those that say the same thing as God. At another forum I said the same thing and was banned for calling (non-Hebrew) nations "dogs." This administrator didn't like that I said such a thing and banned me not remembering that I said the same thing as Christ. What she had done to the least of these, my brethren, she has done unto Christ and has excommunicated one of the Lord's little lambs and in so doing has banned Christ - which to do sets the person in opposition to God Himself.

26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs.
Mt 15:26.
Could you, my brother, stand here in front of the Forum and voluntarily disclose your name, nationality, place of residence and photograph, so that we can know who considers just and fair the destruction of non-Hebrews?
No. It's not necessary.
Are you ready to face the consequences of spreading hate and a pro-genocidal discourse in the Internet?
Or do you prefer to hide under a nickname? It's your right, brother.
My username is who I am. I hide from nothing. Or everyone here with a username would be hiding if we are to take your erroneous interpretation of why we have usernames.

I don't spread hate. I spread the truth from Scripture. If people who disagree with God and His Word want to call Him and His Word hate, then so be it. When Christ returns, He will be destroying those not His people with extreme prejudice and hate for God hates the unatoned sin and sinner.

5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight:
Thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalm 5:5.

The word "workers" is a personal pronoun meaning 'the person.'

5 The LORD trieth the righteous:
But the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Psalm 11:5.

"Him" is a personal pronoun meaning 'the person.'

God hates the unatoned sin and sinner.
From my side, I have no problem in standing in front of you and the world and speaking my mind. Look:

I am Francisco Enrique Camacho Mezquita, 58-year-old male, married, Baha'i, Mexican. I was born in Oaxaca and live in Mexico City. I am a medical doctor with specialty in Infectious Diseases and I work in Pharmacovigilance for a Clinical Research Organization. My real photo is the one in my avatar and you can find me in Facebook.
Good for you. You live in a Communist country, and I don't.
I firmly oppose any idea that considers fair the destruction of any human group based on ethnicity and/or religion. I regard such idea as repugnant, perverse, and highly dangerous.
Well then, you oppose God and His Word.
I'm reporting your post to the @Administrator immediately.
I am not surprised. Judas did the same thing against Christ. That's the typical act of one who hates God and His Word because their beliefs are exalted above the Word of God. Jesus rebuked the religious leaders of His day when they exalted the traditions of the elders above the Word of God.
Judas reported Jesus to the authorities and got thirty pieces of silver. You're doing it for nothing.
 
Only those that say the same thing as God. At another forum I said the same thing and was banned for calling (non-Hebrew) nations "dogs." This administrator didn't like that I said such a thing and banned me not remembering that I said the same thing as Christ. What she had done to the least of these, my brethren, she has done unto Christ and has excommunicated one of the Lord's little lambs and in so doing has banned Christ - which to do sets the person in opposition to God Himself.

26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs.
Mt 15:26.

Jesus was testing the woman in terms Jesus' followers could understand to give them a lesson.
What's the evidence? That Jesus praised non-Hebrew people who had faith or repented.

But the point here is not an isolated, compassionate use of the term "dogs".
(I love dogs. I would be happy to be considered a dog eating from what falls from the table of a noble Israelite)

What is wrong is to think that those "dogs" will be fairly and justly destroyed. That's an inimaginable error and perversion.
That does not help to create a safe environment in which we can freely discuss and exchange ideas.
 
That's the typical act of one who hates God and His Word because their beliefs are exalted above the Word of God.
No.
That's the typical act of one who learned notions of good and evil from his mother and father before he had opened the first page of the Bible.

As a child, you didn't need to learn how to read in order to know that it was a bad thing to inflict pain on another person because of his religion, ethnicity, sex or race. What happened to that child? That child still lives in you, Jeremiah.

If according to your interpretation, the Bible authorizes you to tell the world that non-Hebrew people deserve destruction, then the Bible is a perverse book that you should stop reading and recommending immediately.
 
Jesus was testing the woman in terms Jesus' followers could understand to give them a lesson.
What's the evidence? That Jesus praised non-Hebrew people who had faith or repented.
The woman was mixed heritage. She is identified as Samaritan which are the descendants of Jew-Assyrian offspring after the Assyrian conquest and subsequent exile. Jesus didn't go around testing people. He took them at face value. This woman was a daughter of Abraham and in the course of their interaction she showed a working knowledge of Scripture in identifying Jesus as a Jew, as a prophet, and finally as the Messiah.

12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
John 4:12.

As I said, a daughter of Abraham. Mixed heritage, maybe by rape, marriage, concubinage, slavery, but still carrying Abraham's DNA and thus in covenant with God. She is the prototype of future mixed heritage Hebrews carrying over even up into today.
The ten northern tribes are not lost. Some of them made their way to America and took part in the Revolutionary War against their brethren in England. There are many proofs of Hebrew influence in the making of this great country. But America will not last. All governments and kingdoms will bow down to the King of kings one day soon. The only warning God gives His people is: Be prepared.
But the point here is not an isolated, compassionate use of the term "dogs".
(I love dogs. I would be happy to be considered a dog eating from what falls from the table of a noble Israelite)

What is wrong is to think that those "dogs" will be fairly and justly destroyed. That's an inimaginable error and perversion.
That does not help to create a safe environment in which we can freely discuss and exchange ideas.
As a Biblical Christian I don't ADD to the bible. I take out what is written, and it forms the basis of what I am expected to believe. It is there for my doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness. I don't teach as others here do that the Old Testament Hebrew Scripture is "abolished" or "obsolete" or is "ready to vanish away." The Old Testament Hebrew Scripture is the foundation of all that God's people are called to believe and it is necessary today to the biblical Christian for their training and admonition. Without the Hebrew Scripture God's born-again people would only have their understanding in the vanity of their minds to lean on and this is unacceptable. If Peter said, "the Word of God lives and abides forever" I would have to believe him, and anything written in the New Covenant writings that contradicts what is written in the Hebrew Scripture is to be rejected - especially the false interpretations of Constantinian Gentile theologies, which is what drives todays "Gentile Christians" church-fellowships. Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. The question remains...will you do it.
 
No.
That's the typical act of one who learned notions of good and evil from his mother and father before he had opened the first page of the Bible.
In Hebrew culture children are taught the Hebrew Scripture from a very young age. When they reach the age of accountability - boys, 13; girls, 12 bar and bat mitzvah, respectively) then they are treated as adults and are able to handle the Word of life. Jesus was 12 and debating Scripture with adults in Jerusalem (Lk. 2:49.) Gentile theology interprets the term "age of accountability" as the assumed age a child is able to discern good and evil, which is wrong theology. But that's what you get when non-Hebrew Gentiles try to interpret the Hebrew Scripture without a Hebrew to guide them. That's what happened when the Second Jewish Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Mixed heritage Hebrews who were able to escape the war and hid behind their Gentile identity were the ones who lasted longer than their Hebrew brethren and without a secure Hebrew upbringing prodded along as Hellenized Jews interpreting the Hebrew Scripture - or even without Scripture - leaning on their own Greek understanding in the vanity of their minds and soon true, biblical Christianity was unmoored from its Hebrew roots and Gentiles ended up with a new religion. Here we are 1,992 years later and error upon compounded error you come to the theology of Gentile "Christianity" completely foreign to biblical Christianity of the bible.
As a child, you didn't need to learn how to read in order to know that it was a bad thing to inflict pain on another person because of his religion, ethnicity, sex or race. What happened to that child? That child still lives in you, Jeremiah.
Actually, reading and awareness goes hand in hand. Whatever child that remains is in me cries, "Abba, Abba, save me!"
If according to your interpretation, the Bible authorizes you to tell the world that non-Hebrew people deserve destruction, then the Bible is a perverse book that you should stop reading and recommending immediately.
Did I say "deserve?" Not only do you add to the bible things not written there, but you add to my words what I never said.

The bible isn't perverse, but it does contain perverseness. Given what is written in its pages it would be rated triple X.
 
I don't teach as others here do that the Old Testament Hebrew Scripture is "abolished" or "obsolete" or is "ready to vanish away." The Old Testament Hebrew Scripture is the foundation of all that God's people are called to believe and it is necessary today to the biblical Christian for their training and admonition. Without the Hebrew Scripture God's born-again people would only have their understanding in the vanity of their minds to lean on and this is unacceptable. If Peter said, "the Word of God lives and abides forever" I would have to believe him, and anything written in the New Covenant writings that contradicts what is written in the Hebrew Scripture is to be rejected - especially the false interpretations of Constantinian Gentile theologies, which is what drives todays "Gentile Christians" church-fellowships. Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. The question remains...will you do it.

Good morning, jeremiah1five

I agree with you in all you wrote in the paragraph I am quoting from your post.
I must clarify that I practice the Baha'i Faith, not Christianism.

I believe that Christianism could not be understood or followed without a proper understanding of Judaism and Hebrew Scriptures.
In this Forum I encourage people to resort to the monotheistic, messianic mindset of the Jew people, and to ask questions to Jew rabbis when in doubt.
 
You're right. You didn't say "deserve". My apologies.
So, do you think that the destruction you foresee for non-Hebrews is "undeserved"?
Nope. We all deserve eternal separation from God, but by His grace towards the Hebrew people God has given this people a way out from being under condemnation.
 
Nope. We all deserve eternal separation from God, but by His grace towards the Hebrew people God has given this people a way out from being under condemnation.
Then, in the end of the day, non-Hebrews get what they originally deserved not because of their individual sins, but because of their ethnicity or religion.
Their sins are not the barrier to God’s mercy, but their condition as non-Hebrew… a condition that God himself gave them.
In ypur view, God doesn’t WANT to save millions of His children. Otherwise his irresistible love and grace would reach them and persuade them.

Yet, such god wants you to respect and even love everyone, including your enemies. Such god sets hiself as the moral standard you should look up to (“Be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect”)

How do you make sense of that? And why would you or anyone else want to serve and love such kind of god?
 
Actually, reading and awareness goes hand in hand. Whatever child that remains is in me cries, "Abba, Abba, save me!"
Whatever child remaining in you also cries “Abba, Abba, save my parents, friends, teachers, neighbors”
Whatever child remaining in you would be horrified witnessing the anhiliation of others due to their ethnic or religious background.


The bible isn't perverse, but it does contain perverseness. Given what is written in its pages it would be rated triple X.
I agree. That’s why the notions of good and evil PRECEDE the reading of the Bible.
Biblical authors assume their readers know what “justice” “mercy” or “love” mean.
 
Then, in the end of the day, non-Hebrews get what they originally deserved not because of their individual sins, but because of their ethnicity or religion.
I prefer to say that it is because they are not contemplated saved in the Mind of God. It has nothing to do with their ethnicity for there is something more in control of their fate than looking at them. Look to God who did not choose to contemplate them saved. If salvation is of the LORD, then salvation begins and ends with Him.
Salvation is of the Jews meaning salvation begins and ends with them. God's love is predicated on His Word of Promise. There are those God loves and there are those God does not love. If Scripture said it any other way so would I. But I find no covenant between God and non-Hebrew (Gentiles) people.
Their sins are not the barrier to God’s mercy, but their condition as non-Hebrew… a condition that God himself gave them.
God doesn’t WANT to save millions of His children. Otherwise his irresistible love and grace would reach them and persuade them.
No, their sinfulness is still a barrier to God. Adam and the woman were created sinful. This is the reason they sinned. But the Gentile theology of a "Fall" of mankind is false teaching. There was no "Fall." Adam and the woman (Eve) sinned because they were created sinful. That's the only way or condition they could be created as. If there is only ONE God, there is NONE like Him, and He gives His glory to NO ONE, then the only consideration about the make-up or result of man's creation is that they (Adam and the woman) were created "fallen short of God's glory." They were created "missing the mark." The word for that is "sin."
Yet, This same God wants you to respect and even love everyone, including your enemies.
False Constantinian Gentile theology. The command on love was given to the twelve tribes of Israel in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle and God never commanded Israel to love anyone else except Israel. What Jesus taught in the gospels upheld what God taught in the desert.
How do you make sense of that? And why would you or anyone else want to serve and love such kind of God?
It makes perfect sense. No one chooses to serve or love God. Everyone, Hebrew and Gentile (non-Hebrew) have no choice in the matter. No one can approach God unless God wills it, and He makes everyone whom He's elect to approach Him and makes them willing at the appointed and appropriate time.
 
Whatever child remaining in you also cries “Abba, Abba, save my parents, friends, teachers, neighbors”
Not unless God gives me a burden for such an eventuality. I pray God's will not my own and until He gives me a burden to pray for someone I don't pray for that person or persons. If I choose through my own will or emotions to pray for someone He's not given me a burden for it's only wasted breath and 'effort.' Not my will but thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Whatever child remaining in you would be horrified witnessing the anhiliation of others due to their ethnic or religious background.
It has nothing to do with ethnicity or background. It has to do with God's Sovereign will over His creation to 'make' one a vessel of glory or one a vessel of wrath. Once I have been changed in the twinkling of an eye, I will cease to see things from my perspective in time and will see things from the perspective of God and when He judges those He's not called to salvation I won't see "mother" or "father," "son" or "daughter," but good and evil. And no matter who is in the evil group when they are judged I will praise God and worship Him for taking care of the evil in His creation.
I agree. That’s why the notions of good and evil PRECEDE the reading of the Bible.
Biblical authors assume their readers know what “justice” “mercy” or “love” mean.
It is God through the 'biblical' writers that teach God's people about "justice" and "mercy" and "love."
This and the other thing(s) are contained in Scripture. The Word of God - like God - lives and abides forever and is profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness so that I may be throughly furnished unto all good works.
If the Word of God and His Christ dwell in [me] richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing [me and others] in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in [our] hearts to the Lord, whatsoever [we] do in word or deed, [we] do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
 
I prefer to say that it is because they are not contemplated saved in the Mind of God. It has nothing to do with their ethnicity for there is something more in control of their fate than looking at them. Look to God who did not choose to contemplate them saved. If salvation is of the LORD, then salvation begins and ends with Him.
Salvation is of the Jews meaning salvation begins and ends with them. God's love is predicated on His Word of Promise. There are those God loves and there are those God does not love. If Scripture said it any other way so would I. But I find no covenant between God and non-Hebrew (Gentiles) people.

No, their sinfulness is still a barrier to God. Adam and the woman were created sinful. This is the reason they sinned. But the Gentile theology of a "Fall" of mankind is false teaching. There was no "Fall." Adam and the woman (Eve) sinned because they were created sinful. That's the only way or condition they could be created as. If there is only ONE God, there is NONE like Him, and He gives His glory to NO ONE, then the only consideration about the make-up or result of man's creation is that they (Adam and the woman) were created "fallen short of God's glory." They were created "missing the mark." The word for that is "sin."

False Constantinian Gentile theology. The command on love was given to the twelve tribes of Israel in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle and God never commanded Israel to love anyone else except Israel. What Jesus taught in the gospels upheld what God taught in the desert.

It makes perfect sense. No one chooses to serve or love God. Everyone, Hebrew and Gentile (non-Hebrew) have no choice in the matter. No one can approach God unless God wills it, and He makes everyone whom He's elect to approach Him and makes them willing at the appointed and appropriate time.
Let's see what your favorite Apostle of all times Paul has to say about Israel and non-Israel Gentiles:

(Rom 9:25) As He says also in Hosea:
“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”

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Rom 9:30) What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith;
31 but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone.
33 As it is written:
“Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense,
And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”


(Rom 10:1) Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved.
2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.


(Rom 10:20) But Isaiah is very bold and says:
I was found by those who did not seek Me;
I was made manifest to those who did not ask for Me.”
21 But to Israel he says:
“All day long I have stretched out My hands
To a disobedient and contrary people.”
11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.
12 Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!


Don't you just love Paul? Your Ethnic Cleansing spirit must be convulsing in sheer agony when being read those verses. You still need to tell me the name of that spirit of yours so that we can commence its exorcism.
 
Let's see what your favorite Apostle of all times Paul has to say about Israel and non-Israel Gentiles:

(Rom 9:25) As He says also in Hosea:
“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
Referring to Israel.

19 And I will betroth thee unto me for ever;
Yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment,
And in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
20 I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness:
And thou shalt know the LORD.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day,
I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens,
And they shall hear the earth;
22 And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil;
And they shall hear Jezreel.
23 And I will sow her unto me in the earth;
And I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy;
And I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people;
And they shall say, Thou art my God.
Hosea 2:19–23.

Israel is Betrothed to God and is His wife. God will keep HIS PROMISES and will wed Israel. There will be a Marriage Supper.
(Rom 9:30) What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith;
31 but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone.
33 As it is written:
“Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense,
And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
"Gentiles" are mixed heritage Hebrews/Jews who grew up in Gentile lands heavily influenced by Greek culture. They were even uncircumcised which after these mixed heritage Hebrews became born-again the question of their circumcision of their flesh was addressed at the Jerusalem Council. They could not be non-Hebrews for the Jerusalem leadership would NOT place non-Hebrews under the four instructions of the Law of Moses.
(Rom 10:1) Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved.
2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
Yup. Israel again.
(Rom 10:20) But Isaiah is very bold and says:
I was found by those who did not seek Me;
I was made manifest to those who did not ask for Me.”
21 But to Israel he says:
“All day long I have stretched out My hands
To a disobedient and contrary people.”
11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.
12 Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!


Don't you just love Paul? Your Ethnic Cleansing spirit must be convulsing in sheer agony when being read those verses. You still need to tell me the name of that spirit of yours so that we can commence its exorcism.
Saul, a Jewish Christian and rabbi and Pharisee quoting a Hebrew prophet sent by God to Israel with a message for Israel.
Again, "Gentiles" are mixed heritage Hebrews who grew up in Gentile lands heavily influenced by Greek culture.
The Jews called mixed heritage Hebrews/Jews "Gentile" the same way the Jews called mixed heritage Samaritans (half-Jew/half-Assyrian) "Samaritan" and not as a Jew.
The difference between the Samaritans and the mixed heritage "Gentiles" was that Samaritans were descendant of Jew-Assyrian, and the "Gentiles" were descendant of other non-Hebrew Gentiles in Gentile places other than Samaria.
 
Referring to Israel.

19 And I will betroth thee unto me for ever;
Yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment,
And in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
20 I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness:
And thou shalt know the LORD.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day,
I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens,
And they shall hear the earth;
22 And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil;
And they shall hear Jezreel.
23 And I will sow her unto me in the earth;
And I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy;
And I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people;
And they shall say, Thou art my God.
Hosea 2:19–23.

Israel is Betrothed to God and is His wife. God will keep HIS PROMISES and will wed Israel. There will be a Marriage Supper.
I have no problem with what plans God has with all believers. Here are several prominent believers for whom the Bible had no trace of Israelite heritage whatsoever:

Jethro – The father-in-law of Moses was a Midianite priest.

Rahab – She was an Amorite living in Jericho.

Ruth – She was a Moabite.

Luke – He was Syrian Greek.

Cornelius – He was a Roman centurion who converted to Christianity.

Philemon – He was a slave owning Gentile who converted to Christianity.
"Gentiles" are mixed heritage Hebrews/Jews who grew up in Gentile lands heavily influenced by Greek culture. They were even uncircumcised which after these mixed heritage Hebrews became born-again the question of their circumcision of their flesh was addressed at the Jerusalem Council. They could not be non-Hebrews for the Jerusalem leadership would NOT place non-Hebrews under the four instructions of the Law of Moses.

Yup. Israel again.

Saul, a Jewish Christian and rabbi and Pharisee quoting a Hebrew prophet sent by God to Israel with a message for Israel.
Again, "Gentiles" are mixed heritage Hebrews who grew up in Gentile lands heavily influenced by Greek culture.
The Jews called mixed heritage Hebrews/Jews "Gentile" the same way the Jews called mixed heritage Samaritans (half-Jew/half-Assyrian) "Samaritan" and not as a Jew.
The difference between the Samaritans and the mixed heritage "Gentiles" was that Samaritans were descendant of Jew-Assyrian, and the "Gentiles" were descendant of other non-Hebrew Gentiles in Gentile places other than Samaria.
Paul never got your memo that he should preach to only those who have at least a gram of Israelite blood in them. You must have forgotten to send out that memo.

Paul is speaking about Israel and non-Israel. All of non-Israel, the world over, has been given the name Gentiles. There is no 3rd group in the entire world. Maybe there's a 3rd life form in a distant planet.

Israelite Jews were expelled from Rome at the time of Paul's writing. So the demarcation between Israel and non-Israel was pretty clear.

Your Ethnic Cleansing spirit's feeble attempt to redefine words and nations will not work.
 
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I have no problem with what plans God has with all believers. Here are several prominent believers for whom the Bible had no trace of Israelite heritage whatsoever:

Jethro – The father-in-law of Moses was a Midianite priest.

Rahab – She was an Amorite living in Jericho.

Ruth – She was a Moabite.

Luke – He was Syrian Greek.

Cornelius – He was a Roman centurion who converted to Christianity.

Philemon – He was a slave owning Gentile who converted to Christianity.
Let's not forget Noah and Adam or Seth and the others.
Paul never got your memo that he should preach to only those who have at least a gram of Israelite blood in them. You must have forgotten to send out that memo.
Saul was a rabbi and Pharisee. He taught the Hebrew Scripture. The Hebrew Scripture records no covenant between God and non-Hebrew Gentiles and neither did Saul of the apostles teach salvation to non-Hebrew people because the basis of salvation is covenant, and Gentiles had none. The animal sacrifices were sacrificed to atone for the sins of the children of Israel and Jesus, as lamb of God, fulfilled the Law where the sacrifice is concerned. Jesus as substitute for the animal sacrifice died to atone for the sins of the children of Israel according to the Law. You remember the verse how Jesus died according to the Scripture (Law of Moses), right?

1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

This is the good news (gospel) found in the Hebrew Scripture after Saul disappeared after meeting Israel's Kinsman-Redeemer for 14-17 years to study what the Scripture revealed after the advent of the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL. So yes, Saul taught the animal sacrificed to atone temporarily the sins of the children of Israel was substituted by Jesus who died to atone for the sins of the children of Israel. That's why everyone who says Jesus fulfilled the Law is correct even though they don't fully understand what it truly means.

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

SEE ABOVE.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

According to the Scripture regarding the animal sacrifice on Yom Kippur which for one year atoned for the sins of the children of Israel until Jesus came and died finally and eternally for the sins of the children of Israel. THAT is the good news found in the Scripture Saul taught.

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Now he gets into the prophets and the things they prophesied about Jesus, such as the casting lots for His garments, being crucified on a tree, etc.

5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

Post-resurrection events.

6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.

Five hundred brethren meaning Jews - NO GENTILES - to whom Israel's Messiah appeared. Again, Jesus did not appear to Gentiles. He wasn't their Savior, Lord, or King. He is King OF THE JEWS!

7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.

Jimmy boy, Jesus' half-brother, similar to Samaritans who were also half-brethren to the Jews being offspring of Jew-Assyrian parents.

8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
1 Corinthians 15:1–8.

One Jew to another, or should I say, one Jew to a Benjaminite. Still, Jesus was prophesied by Moses who would be born from one of the twelve tribes in order to save the twelve tribes - Abraham included.
Paul is speaking about Israel and non-Israel. All of non-Israel, the world over, has been given the name Gentiles. There is no 3rd group in the entire world. Maybe there's a 3rd life form in a distant planet.
Jesus is King of the Jews. See above.
Israelite Jews were expelled from Rome at the time of Paul's writing. So the demarcation between Israel and non-Israel was pretty clear.
But Jews of mixed heritage remained since their mixed heritage assisted their surviving such persecution just as Saul Roman citizenship helped him when he needed it, too. The Jewish Church at Rome was founded by Hebrews who participated in the Feast of Harvest when the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL arrived and three thousand Jews - no Gentiles - were born again.

10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
Acts 2:10–11.

Moses prophesied that God would send a Deliverer to deliver the children of Israel from their sin. Jesus fulfilled that prophecy and died according to the Law of Moses in which God ordained the animal sacrifices and sent His own Son to die a substitutionary death in place of the animal to atone for the sins of the children of Israel according to Scripture. God saves through covenant and non-Hebrew Gentiles do not have a covenant with God. God chose one family ABOVE all families of the earth to call His own.

Remember. Jesus died according to the Scripture (Law, Psalms, and the Prophets) which Scripture was given to and for the children of Israel in covenant with God. Let's not break Scripture. The LORD said that it was impossible to do despite your Gentile-leaning interpretations.

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Gal. 4:4–5.

Stop contradicting God's Word. Jesus is a Hebrew Messiah sent to redeem the Hebrews and the way God did that is through covenant.
Your Ethnic Cleansing spirit's feeble attempt to redefine words and nations will not work.
Pay attention:

15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; Deut. 18:15.

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deut. 18:18.

"Them" are identified as the children of Israel. "Them" are NOT non-Hebrew Gentiles. Jesus said it most succinctly when He said:

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mt 15:24.

The New Covenant is between God and the House of Israel (and Judah.)

Non-Hebrew Gentiles need not apply. It's a salvation OF THE JEWS just as Jesus said.

So, stop contradicting Scripture. True born of God Christians don't do that.

So, stop with your erroneous interpretation of Scripture. Jesus died to atone finally and eternally for the sins of the children of Israel and ONLY the children of Israel who is a child of Isaac who is a child of Abraham and through whom the inheritance rests. SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS.
Not Gentiles.
 
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