Data on John 1:1

False. Let's bring in the Greek OT (Septuagint, LXX), the one that the Apostles overwhelmingly quoted from to write their NT Epistles.
"ἐγὼ εἰμί" (I Am) (Ex 3:14) = "ἐγὼ εἰμί" (I Am) (John 8:24) = "ἐγὼ εἰμί" (I Am) (John 8:58).
You've lost the argument again.

First of all, it was not Jesus who said that in John 9:9. Second of all, John 9:9 clearly shows who it is that is being referred to. That's why there's an extra "he" or the "the man" is added in the English to make it clear that it is not God who is being referred to here.

(John 9:9) Some said, This is he. Others said, He is like him. He said, I am he.

So it's back to the drawing board for you

Conclusion: Jesus is the OT God whose name is "I Am" (ἐγὼ εἰμί).
I cannot have lost the argument because Jesus is not God. That's why there is not one verse that says we should believe or confess that Jesus is God. Jesus saying "I am" is not a teaching on the trinity or doctrine teaching us that we should believe or confess it.

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I cannot have lost the argument because Jesus is not God. That's why there is not one verse that says we should believe or confess that Jesus is God. Jesus saying "I am" is not a teaching on the trinity or doctrine teaching us that we should believe or confess it.

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John 14:1 "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me."

now can you answer my questions, only 3.

101G
 
Pete is there something blocking your brain? if Jesus is the Son of God and is not God, nor angel, or human then you're creating a new species. for there is ONLY God, angels and us humans. so where do the Lord Jesus fit in at?

and two, you said, "He was raised from the dead" but was it not Jesus himself who raised up his own body?".

and three, is he not Lord and Christ, the ONLY TRUE GOD to the World?

101G.
Well said... there is no place where the Lord Christ Jesus fits into you life. You are indeed the anti-Christ.
 
I cannot have lost the argument because Jesus is not God. That's why there is not one verse that says we should believe or confess that Jesus is God. Jesus saying "I am" is not a teaching on the trinity or doctrine teaching us that we should believe or confess it.
Here's another verse that explicitly states that the Word (Preincarnate Jesus) was God. You lost the argument again.

(John 1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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Well said... there is no place where the Lord Christ Jesus fits into you life. You are indeed the anti-Christ.
101G the anti-Christ? .... (smile), LOL, LOL, LOL, Oh boy.... :eek: YIKES! just because 101G caught you in an ERROR, so now 101G is the anti-Christ.

101G.
 
now what about that confession? let's check the record. Romans 14:11 "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God." so where is that written at? Isaiah 45:22 "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else." Isaiah 45:23 "I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear." unto who do we all bow to and tongue confess to? God right. Philippians 2:10 "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;" Philippians 2:11 "And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

WHAT? Jesus Christ is Lord". what did Romans 14:11 say? "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God."

well there is that confession.

101G.
 
@Peterlag,
101G has one more question for you. Listen first. Philippians 2:11 "And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." now, is this the Father or the Son who sit on the throne that receive GLORY in Revelation chapter 4 verse 11. your answer please, this will burn up the rest of your real estate.

your answer please.

101G.
 
@Peterlag
well since 101G have the title anti-Christ now. ...... (smile). since you cannot answer, might as well-set fire to your last bit of real estate. the answer to who sits on the throne in Revelation 4:11 is JESUS, who is God almighty. and if you disagree, and say it's the Father who sits, then please tell us who gave the Father "POWER". for the verse states, Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

so, if the Father sits, then book chapter, and verse as to who gave the Father "POWER". looking to hear from you in a answer please.

101G. (AKA, the anti-Christ)
 
@Peterlag,
101G has one more question for you. Listen first. Philippians 2:11 "And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." now, is this the Father or the Son who sit on the throne that receive GLORY in Revelation chapter 4 verse 11. your answer please, this will burn up the rest of your real estate.

your answer please.

101G.
I never comment on Revelation. Don't even read it mostly because it's written in all kinds of figures of speech and all of it is written to Israel and not to the Christian. And so since I'm not Jewish is why I don't need to read it.
 
101G the anti-Christ? .... (smile), LOL, LOL, LOL, Oh boy.... :eek: YIKES! just because 101G caught you in an ERROR, so now 101G is the anti-Christ.

101G.
Oh no I did not mean to point fingers. However, you did say there was no son of God, the Messiah to Israel, and the Lord Christ to the Christian. You said there's only God, Angel's, and Man. So I figure you have rejected the son of God.
 
Here's another verse that explicitly states that the Word (Preincarnate Jesus) was God. You lost the argument again.

(John 1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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What OP are we on? Is this not the thread of a couple of pages on John 1:1?
 
What OP are we on? Is this not the thread of a couple of pages on John 1:1?
One Post and one verse is all that is needed to eliminate the Judaizing Unitarian Heresy.

The Word (Preincarnate Jesus) was God. Whoever understands English and does not warp scripture knows that you've lost the argument again.

(John 1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
 
I never comment on Revelation. Don't even read it mostly because it's written in all kinds of figures of speech and all of it is written to Israel and not to the Christian. And so since I'm not Jewish is why I don't need to read it.
fine but you should read it, because Revelation is not Jewish, nor is it for Israel only. it's national, world wide, and it involve everyone including you and 101G. but if you cannot answer the question, that's ok too. it's the Lord Jesus who sits on the throne in Revelation 4:11. ..... (smile), try reading the book at least you get a blessing for reading it.... don't miss out on your blessing. Revelation 1:3 "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."

101G. (the anti-christ)
 
you did say there was no son of God, the Messiah to Israel, and the Lord Christ to the Christian. You said there's only God, Angel's, and Man. So I figure you have rejected the son of God.
(smile), quit figuring, and KNOW. now if you can show any post where 101G said there is no Son of God please post it. two, there is only God, angels, and us humans.... is there any other God-like creatures? third, the Messiah to Israel, and the world, understand now? supportive scripture, 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:" 1 John 2:2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

101G. (the anti-christ)

p.s. don't worry about the pointing of fingers. 101G kind of like the title, 101G. (the anti-christ).
 
now what about that confession? let's check the record. Romans 14:11 "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God." so where is that written at? Isaiah 45:22 "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else." Isaiah 45:23 "I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear." unto who do we all bow to and tongue confess to? God right. Philippians 2:10 "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;" Philippians 2:11 "And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

WHAT? Jesus Christ is Lord". what did Romans 14:11 say? "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God."

well there is that confession.

101G.
Who send Who?


Explicit Statements in the New Testament
John 3:16-17 (ESV):
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him."

This passage directly states that God sent Jesus out of love for humanity, with the purpose of salvation.

John 5:36-37:
"For the works that the Father has given me to accomplish, the very works that I am doing, bear witness about me that the Father has sent me."
Jesus Himself emphasizes that He was sent by the Father to fulfill a divine mission.

2. Theological Purpose Behind the Sending
Reconciliation:

Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 5:18-19 that God sent Jesus to reconcile the world to Himself: "All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation."

Atonement for Sin:
In Romans 8:3, Paul explains: "For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh."
This shows that God's sending of Jesus addressed humanity's need for redemption.

3. The Incarnation as an Act of Sending
John 1:14 states: "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us."

In Christian belief, this "Word" (Logos) is Jesus, who was sent into the world as God incarnate (see John 1:1-3).
The doctrine of the Incarnation shows that Jesus' coming was not accidental but a deliberate act of divine will, fulfilling prophecies and God's plan for humanity.

4. Jesus' Own Words About Being Sent
John 17:3 (High Priestly Prayer):
"And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent."
Jesus explicitly acknowledges His role as one sent by the Father.

Luke 4:18-19 (Quoting Isaiah 61):
Jesus applies the prophecy to Himself, saying: "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor."

5. The Nature of the Sending
As a Servant:
In Philippians 2:5-8, Paul describes Jesus as humbling Himself in obedience to the Father, taking the form of a servant and coming to serve humanity.

As the Messiah:
Throughout the Gospels, Jesus identifies Himself as the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah, sent by God to redeem Israel and the world (see Luke 24:44-47).

6. Trinitarian Context
Collaboration within the Trinity:
The sending of Jesus is often seen within the framework of the Trinity, where the Father sends the Son, and the Spirit empowers the Son for His mission (e.g., Matthew 3:16-17 during Jesus' baptism).
This sending reflects divine unity, love, and purpose.

Morphology
ἀποστέλλω (apostéllō) is a verb in the Greek New Testament.

Root: στέλλω (stéllō) – This is the core verb meaning "to send" or "to dispatch."

Prefix: ἀπό (apo) – A preposition meaning "from" or "away from."

Meaning of the whole verb: ἀποστέλλω means "to send away" or "to dispatch with a purpose," emphasizing a directional sending, usually with a mission.

Verb Conjugation:

Voice: Active (the subject is performing the action) and Middle/Passive (when God sends someone, often in a divine passive construction, it’s still considered an active sending).

Tense: Typically, ἀποστέλλω is used in the Present Tense, though it can appear in other tenses (past, future, etc.). The Present Tense indicates an ongoing or repeated action of sending.

Aspect: Imperfective (the action is viewed as ongoing or incomplete).

Mood: Indicative (used to state a fact or make a statement).
Person and Number: The verb ἀποστέλλω is conjugated based on the subject. For instance, in John 3:16 (Ἀπέστειλεν - apesteilen), it's a 3rd person singular, referring to God sending Jesus.

2. Etymology
The root verb στέλλω (stéllō) has the basic meaning of "to send" or "to place in position." It is related to the idea of sending or directing someone with a purpose.

The prefix ἀπό (apo) gives the verb a sense of sending "from" or "away from." This adds the nuance that the sending is intentional, from one place or person to another, often with a goal or mission.

The word ἀποστέλλω appears many times in the New Testament, often in the context of God or Jesus sending someone with a purpose. For example, Jesus is sent by God to fulfill a specific mission.

3. Syntax
In Greek, ἀποστέλλω typically governs a direct object (the one being sent) and often includes a purpose clause (indicating the reason or mission for which someone is sent). It also frequently involves prepositional phrases indicating direction or the entity from which the sending occurs.
Example from John 3:16:

ὅτι οὕτως ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον, ὥστε τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ τὸν μονογενῆ ἵνα πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν μὴ ἀπόληται ἀλλ' ἔχῃ ζωὴν αἰώνιον.
Transliteration: "hoti houtōs ēgapēsen ho theos ton kosmon, hōste ton huion autou ton monogenē hina pas ho pisteuōn eis auton mē apolētai all’ echē zōēn aiōnion."

Translation: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."

The verb ἀπέστειλεν (from ἀποστέλλω) is in the aorist tense (which in this case refers to a completed action in the past), showing the completed action of God sending Jesus.
Syntax in Context:

In this construction, ἀποστέλλω is often accompanied by direct objects (such as υἱὸν = "Son") and purpose clauses (expressed by ἵνα = "so that" or "in order that"), which explain the goal of the sending (e.g., to bring salvation or eternal life).

The preposition εἰς (meaning "into" or "toward") is often used in relation to the person or purpose toward whom the action of the sending is directed. In John 3:16, πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν ("believes in him") gives the purpose of God sending the Son.

4. Usage in the New Testament
Jesus Sent by the Father:

John 5:36: "For the works that the Father has given me to accomplish, the very works that I am doing, bear witness about me that the Father has sent me."

In this verse, the verb ἀπέστειλεν reflects the Father’s action of sending Jesus with a specific mission, a common theme in the Gospels.

The Disciples Sent by Jesus:

Matthew 10:5: "These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, 'Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans.'"
Here, the verb is used to describe Jesus sending His disciples to carry out specific instructions.

5. Theological Implications
The verb ἀποστέλλω implies a missionary sending or a purposeful commission. Jesus’ sending by the Father represents a deliberate divine action, with Jesus fulfilling God's will to bring salvation to humanity.

In theological terms, this highlights the preordained nature of Jesus’ ministry, the obedience of the Son to the will of the Father, and the divine plan for the redemption of the world.

J.
 
This passage directly states that God sent Jesus out of love for humanity, with the purpose of salvation.
and who is Jesus? answer God himself "Diversified" in flesh. supportive scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me." his OWN ARM? read Isaiah chapter 53 and learn who his "OWN ARM" is. my God this is too easy.

101G.
 
and who is Jesus? answer God himself "Diversified" in flesh. supportive scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me." his OWN ARM? read Isaiah chapter 53 and learn who his "OWN ARM" is. my God this is too easy.

101G.
Your cross-referencing is flawed and does not address the verses I have cited. It seems intellectually dishonest, as it appears you are relying on just one verse.

J.
 
Your cross-referencing is flawed and does not address the verses I have cited. It seems intellectually dishonest
personal opinion? address 101G's scriptures presented, 101G careless about personal opinions
as it appears you are relying on just one verse.
did you read Isaiah chapter 53? as 101G said is he who is God OWN ARM. if not then read it,

101G. (AKA the anti-christ)
 
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