Christ's Finished Atonement or Christ's Failure Atonement

[Kermos]

According to 2 Cor 5:18-19, the purpose of the atonement was singular: to reconcile the world to God so God could not count men’s sins against them.

18All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.

This is the gospel message, the message of reconciliation!

Doug

Your post does nothing to change the following:

You conveniently leave out confession and repentance from your equation. They have to happen before forgiveness can happen. The cause of reconciliation is the whole process in order: atonement, God not counting men’s sins against them, conviction of sin, confess and repentance of sin, forgiveness of those sins, and the Holy Spirit entering the heart of man making him spiritually alive and one with God. That is the logical order according to Scripture.


Doug

You leave out that God imparts repentance inside of man - as explained to you according to Holy Scripture in the very post to which you replied:

We children of God repent by God’s working, for the Christ of us Christians says “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to babes” (Matthew 11:25), and the apostles and elders are in accord with Jesus’ words with thier saying, “Well then, God has given to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life” (Acts 11:18), so clearly, Jesus’ words in Matthew 11:25 state that God exclusively causes man to think differently after an encounter with God (repent means to think differently afterward).
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Oh, look, you failed to judge what is right (Luke 12:57) with your "You conveniently leave out confession and repentance".

Christ's finished atonement includes forgiveness of sin because this is precisely what Holy Spirit inspired John wrote with "He is the atonement for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the whole world" (1 John 2:2), so your separation of forgiveness from atonement fails both spiritually and logically.

Your "The cause of reconciliation is the whole process in order: atonement, God not counting men’s sins against them, conviction of sin, confess and repentance of sin, forgiveness of those sins, and the Holy Spirit entering the heart of man making him spiritually alive and one with God" very badly places in last place that which is in first place according to the Truth (John 14:6) because the Christ of us Christians says the first place is "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3) bringing the Life (John 14:6) into the new man which includes Christ's finished atonement securing the new man's forgiveness of sin thus the new man reconciled as at one with God (look at the last 3 words of yours quoted, there, too, where you put the first as the last).

You still have people like Nancy of the world who died and goes to hell being atoned for by Christ, so you cling to Christ's failure atonement (see the opening post).
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