Christ paid our sin debt

Again you have not dealt with your false assumption Christ died only for a few unconditionally select individuals

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/christ-paid-our-sin-debt.1205/post-56340

nor have you shown any were unconditionally elected to conversion
All the elect, cant you read ? 1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world or the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
 
All the elect, cant you read ? 1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world or the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Again you have not dealt with your false assumption Christ died only for a few unconditionally select individuals

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/christ-paid-our-sin-debt.1205/post-56340

nor have you shown any were unconditionally elected to conversion

hello

all you offer are your assumptions
 
This objection was recently posed to me in the comment section in another article in this sight. This fellow said “God is the one who set up this system of sacrificial atonement.

I would point out to him that in life, there are consequences for Sin. Not just to ourselves, but to those around us. When you steal from someone, this Sin sends a wave, like a ripple on water that continues far after you have satisfied the wicked desires of your own flesh. It influences many people in bad ways that you didn't consider when you decided to Steal what belonged to someone else. The man you steal from was saving money for their kids clothes, which cannot be acquired now, and the children suffer ridicule for old and shabby clothes, which influences the child in ways that is made manifest onto this person's children, long after the Sin. The son or brother who sees you steal, and follows your example, ends up in a gang of thieves, criminals who prey on others, as your stealing teaches. The son gets killed in a gang related shootout 5 years later, all the result of the ripple of your sin of first coveting, and then Stealing what was not yours. Just like the ripple of Eves Sin is still influencing others in a negative way centuries after it happens.

What would a Just God do? Place you in a room and let all those men who your selfish disregard for God and His Laws and Judgments have affected, have recompence? Or would HE offer His Own Immortal Life, for the truly repentant, and take the arrows for them? Showing by example true compassion and mercy is rooted in self denial.

This is where I began to have serious doubts about the authenticity of the Bible as the Word of God. I can see a primitive sect of people setting up a system this way since they were familiar with various tribes that thought sacrificing a baby or a virgin would appease the gods. But it is hard for me to accept that the real God of the universe who has all knowledge and power would ever resort to such a bloody, painful and grotesque practice.

First off, This guy is expressing the teaching of mainstream Christianity that exists in the world God placed us both in. The Jesus, "of the Bible", "Specifically" warns about being deceived by this "specific" religion.

Matt. 24: 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that "no man" deceive you. 5 For "many" shall come in my name, saying, I (Jesus) am Christ; and shall deceive many.

This is important to understand. Jesus doesn't warn against Islam, Atheists, Buddhists, etc. He warns HIS Disciples against a religious "Many", who come in "His" Name, who call "HIM" Lord, Lord. Many who prophesy in HIS Name, cast out devils in HIS Name.

Paul too, warns of men who "Transform themselves into apostles of Christ". And men who "profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate"

There is only one religion on this planet that fit's Jesus' description here.

A man who believes in this Christ, and accepts HIS Warnings, are more likely to follow HIS instruction on how to live and who to trust, as opposed to trusting the differring religious phiulosophies and traditions of this world's many different religious sects. "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

A man who believes in this Christ, would learn that the Law and Prophets are Spiritual, and that understanding them is reserved for those who are SEEKING God with all their hearts, not just with their lips.

He would learn that the "Blood" is actually the "LIFE" of a being. He would learn that the Lord's Christ, the Holy One of Israel, risked His Immortality, HIS "LIFE" to give me, a selfish self-centered self-exalted, stubborn man, a second chance to "Rule over the wicked Flesh", as it was written from the very beginning.

Gen. 4:7, "If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

This man has not considered Every Word of God, because if HE had, He would understand that God "doesn't desire Sacrifice". That Israel had sinned a great sin and their ripple continued throughout the world, and they deserved to be cast off, like others who selfishly disregard the One True God, like Sodom. But God showed them Mercy, and didn't cast them off, Deut. 9: 28 Lest the land whence thou broughtest us out say, Because the LORD was not able to bring them into the land which he promised them, and because he hated them, he hath brought them out to slay them in the wilderness.

He needed to teach "US" through them that wickedness, as Paul calls it, the "Exceedingly Sinful" wickedness of Sin, that every time they SIN, a righteous, innocent LIFE is influenced. Somewhere an innocent LIFE is broken. By commanding them to offer up the very best of their "OWN" possessions, and "Killing" it, their sin is brought before them in a way that stings. This brings "Godly Sorrow", that leads to repentance.

It makes no sense that he would require the death of someone to atone for the sins of the world.

The Blood is the LIFE of the being, not the death of the being. Jesus offered HIS LIFE for the remission of sins.

"Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, (Life) to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Lev.17: 11 For the "life" of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood (The LIFE) that maketh an atonement for the soul.

Because this man's religion is founded on the teaching of the "Many" who come in Christ's Name that Jesus warned about, he has been convinced that it is the Death of someone to atone for sins. As you can see, God teaches the opposite.
He could have set this system up anyway he wanted to. He could just forgive us like we forgive others.

But isn't Repentance required before forgiveness? Does God forgive the unrepentant? Again, God forgives the repentant. But he knows the heart, so HE knows if a man is truly sorry for disregarding, disrespecting and dishonoring God, or refusing to Glorify God "AS God", or if they are just honoring Him with their lips.

If your wife or husband is cheating on you, and they say they are sorry, but continue to cheat on you, are they really sorry? If they are truly sorry, they will stop cheating. As it is written, "Godly (Truthful) Sorrow, leadeth to repentance. (Change)

And as the Jesus of the Bible teaches. Luke 13: 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
When someone wrongs me, I do not require a blood sacrifice. Generally a simple ‘I’m sorry, please forgive me’ will do. But that is not good enough for God. He requires death.”

No, EVEN you require honesty from the heart before forgiveness. True repentance. Even you would require a cheating wife to stop cheating. The cheating wife is destroyed, no longer exists. Replaced by a New wife, "which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness". A wife that "Goes and cheats no more". So then God, like you, would require more than the words "I'm sorry, please forgive me". You would both require what Paul taught both Jew and Gentile in Acts 26. "that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

How should we answer this?

Matt. 10: 11 And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.

12 And when ye come into an house, salute it.

13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.

14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
A man is either Called to SEEK the One True God, or he is not. Religious men have nothing to say about whether a man is SEEKING or not. This man above is either interested in what the Scriptures actually say, or he has already made up his mind against God. In the former case, he will listen to Scriptures and consider, in the latter he will not.
 
Again you have not dealt with your false assumption Christ died only for a few unconditionally select individuals

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/christ-paid-our-sin-debt.1205/post-56340

nor have you shown any were unconditionally elected to conversion

hello

all you offer are your assumptions
All the elect, cant you read ? 1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world of the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
 
I would point out to him that in life, there are consequences for Sin. Not just to ourselves, but to those around us. When you steal from someone, this Sin sends a wave, like a ripple on water that continues far after you have satisfied the wicked desires of your own flesh. It influences many people in bad ways that you didn't consider when you decided to Steal what belonged to someone else. The man you steal from was saving money for their kids clothes, which cannot be acquired now, and the children suffer ridicule for old and shabby clothes, which influences the child in ways that is made manifest onto this person's children, long after the Sin. The son or brother who sees you steal, and follows your example, ends up in a gang of thieves, criminals who prey on others, as your stealing teaches. The son gets killed in a gang related shootout 5 years later, all the result of the ripple of your sin of first coveting, and then Stealing what was not yours. Just like the ripple of Eves Sin is still influencing others in a negative way centuries after it happens.

What would a Just God do? Place you in a room and let all those men who your selfish disregard for God and His Laws and Judgments have affected, have recompence? Or would HE offer His Own Immortal Life, for the truly repentant, and take the arrows for them? Showing by example true compassion and mercy is rooted in self denial.
What makes you think that requires penal substitutionary atonement?

What makes you think that requires the imputation of sin to the sinless Christ

What makes you think God punishes and separates himself from God turning the father against the son and fracturing the trinity

What makes you think God the father needed to be appeased when

2 Corinthians 5:18–20 (ESV) — 18 All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. 20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.


and

Romans 3:21–26 (ESV) — 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
 
All the elect, cant you read ? 1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world of the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Nothing has changed

you still ignore reply and fail to provide proof of your claims

Again you have not dealt with your false assumption Christ died only for a few unconditionally select individuals

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/christ-paid-our-sin-debt.1205/post-56340

nor have you shown any were unconditionally elected to conversion

hello

all you offer are your assumptions
 
Nothing has changed

you still ignore reply and fail to provide proof of your claims

Again you have not dealt with your false assumption Christ died only for a few unconditionally select individuals

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/christ-paid-our-sin-debt.1205/post-56340

nor have you shown any were unconditionally elected to conversion

hello

all you offer are your assumptions
All the elect, cant you read ? 1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world of the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
 
All the elect, cant you read ? 1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world of the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Nothing there about unconditional election

There is no unconditionally in the word elect.

You can't just assume it you need to find a verse which actually states what you believe
 
Nothing there about unconditional election

There is no unconditionally in the word elect.

You can't just assume it you need to find a verse which actually states what you believe
1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world of the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
 
1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world of the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
What are you not able to understand?

Nothing there about unconditional election

There is no unconditionally in the word elect.

You can't just assume it you need to find a verse which actually states what you believe
 
What are you not able to understand?

Nothing there about unconditional election

There is no unconditionally in the word elect.

You can't just assume it you need to find a verse which actually states what you believe
1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world of the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
 
1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world of the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
What are you not able to understand?

Nothing there about unconditional election

There is no unconditionally in the word elect.

You can't just assume it, you need to find a verse which actually states what you believe

you have not done it and continue to assume what you believe
 
What are you not able to understand?

Nothing there about unconditional election

There is no unconditionally in the word elect.

You can't just assume it, you need to find a verse which actually states what you believe

you have not done it and continue to assume what you believe
1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world of the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
 
1 Pet 1:2-3 who is Peter writing to ? The whole world of the Elect

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
 
What makes you think that requires penal substitutionary atonement?

I don't. That term is a manmade religious talking point, created by religious men "who come in Christ's Name". God is not "Required" by you or anyone else to do "Anything". My post doesn't even suggest any such thing. I asked the question that you didn't show the courtesy of answering.

"What would a Just God do? Place you in a room and let all those men who your selfish disregard for God and His Laws and Judgments have affected, have recompence? Or would HE offer His Own Immortal Life, for the truly repentant, and take the arrows for them? Showing by example true compassion and mercy is rooted in self-denial?"

Not because He is required to do anything. And truly, you are free to reject His offer to help, or create your own religion with your own righteousness, and your own judgments and your own high days, which "many" who come in Christ's Name do.

As for me, I need a Redeemer, and am grateful for the Christ's Offer to Advocate between me and His Father.

What makes you think that requires the imputation of sin to the sinless Christ.

I don't, my post says no such thing. You are arguing with yourself here, not what I wrote.

Who imputes sin to the Sinless Christ? Not me. The Pharisees did, mainstream Christianity does. "Jesus broke God's Sabbaths." "Jesus made a show of God openly" and on and on. So yes, there are religious men, who call Jesus Lord, Lord, who impute Sin onto Him. But not me. Where in my post do I "impute Sins onto Jesus". And if you can't find where I did, then will you repent for implying that I do?


What makes you think God punishes and separates himself from God turning the father against the son and fracturing the trinity

Again, what are you even talking about? Who are you replying to? This is absurd. You put words in my mouth by false implication, and then argue with them as if I said them. Perhaps you might consider simply replying to my post.

What makes you think God the father needed to be appeased when

2 Corinthians 5:18–20 (ESV) — 18 All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. 20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.

Well TomL, Because I SEEK God's Truth, instead of Justification, I listen to EVERY Word of Scripture. So here is the same Paul, in the same Chapter, speaking to the Same people, Inspired by the Same Spirit.

9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that "he hath done", whether it be good or bad.

Therefore, it isn't me who said we should consider "Appeasing God the Father", but the Words of Paul that you didn't deem worthy of considering.

And also, the Jesus "of the bible" teaches that HE too, believed His Father was Worthy of Appeasement.

John 8: 29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for (Because) I do always those things that please him.

And Peter also aligned himself with the Lord's Christ.

2 Peter 3: 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 14 Wherefore, (Because of this) beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent "that ye may be found of him" in peace, without spot, and blameless.

So Jesus, Peter and Paul all thought that the Father was worthy of Appeasement. But you, and "many" who come in Christ's Name clearly do not.

Is this not the very thing the Jesus "of the Bible" warned me about, that I posted and you completely ignored?



and

Romans 3:21–26 (ESV) — 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, (His LIFE) to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Again, cherry picking Scriptures to justify oneself is common. But not wise, according to the Scriptures. This same Jesus told us.

Luke 13: 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

He also said;

Matt. 7: 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

He also said;

Matt. 5: 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

And what was the righteousness of the Pharisees?

Mark 7: 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

When a man risks His Life to show you the truth about the One True God. You shouldn't demean His Sacrifice in the way you do. I hope you will think about what the Scriptures actually say, when all of them are considered.
 
I don't. That term is a manmade religious talking point, created by religious men "who come in Christ's Name". God is not "Required" by you or anyone else to do "Anything". My post doesn't even suggest any such thing. I asked the question that you didn't show the courtesy of answering.

"What would a Just God do? Place you in a room and let all those men who your selfish disregard for God and His Laws and Judgments have affected, have recompence? Or would HE offer His Own Immortal Life, for the truly repentant, and take the arrows for them? Showing by example true compassion and mercy is rooted in self-denial?"

Not because He is required to do anything. And truly, you are free to reject His offer to help, or create your own religion with your own righteousness, and your own judgments and your own high days, which "many" who come in Christ's Name do.

As for me, I need a Redeemer, and am grateful for the Christ's Offer to Advocate between me and His Father.



I don't, my post says no such thing. You are arguing with yourself here, not what I wrote.

Who imputes sin to the Sinless Christ? Not me. The Pharisees did, mainstream Christianity does. "Jesus broke God's Sabbaths." "Jesus made a show of God openly" and on and on. So yes, there are religious men, who call Jesus Lord, Lord, who impute Sin onto Him. But not me. Where in my post do I "impute Sins onto Jesus". And if you can't find where I did, then will you repent for implying that I do?
Great if you do not hold to those things. I have no argument with you in that case.
 
@civic
However, Jesus’ death is a necessary condition, but not a sufficient condition for salvation.

This is blasphemy against the Blood of Christ. that Jesus Death was not sufficient enough for Salvation. Its the Blood of Christ, His Death that redeemed them He died for from all iniquity Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Also His Blood alone purges the conscience from deaf works, unto serving the Living God Heb 9 14

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

See that ? The Blood of Christ secures a life of Faith to serve the Living God !
 
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This is blasphemy against the Blood of Christ. that Jesus Death was not sufficient enough for Salvation. Its the Blood of Christ, His Death that redeemed them He died for from all iniquity Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Also His Blood alone purges the conscience from deaf works, unto serving the Living God Heb 9 14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

See that ? The Blood of Christ secures a life of Faith to serve the Living God !
Projecting again no resurrection no life. 1 Cor 15 the entire chapter exposes your heretical teaching.
 
@civic


This is blasphemy against the Blood of Christ. that Jesus Death was not sufficient enough for Salvation. Its the Blood of Christ, His Death that redeemed them He died for from all iniquity Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Also His Blood alone purges the conscience from deaf works, unto serving the Living God Heb 9 14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

See that ? The Blood of Christ secures a life of Faith to serve the Living God !
No it is not

John 3:14–15 (ESV) — 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

atonement without faith does not benefit
 
No it is not

John 3:14–15 (ESV) — 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

atonement without faith does not benefit
And without the resurrection is a dead faith , a faith in vain as Paul says in 1 Cor 15. It’s a false gospel since the centerpiece of the gospel preached by the apostles was the resurrection
 
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