praise_yeshua
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The JewishDidache should be in the Canon.
I'll listen as to why you think it should be included.
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I'll listen as to why you think it should be included.
David Koberstein
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If you have to ask me that question then you apparently have not read the Jewish Didache.
praise_yeshua
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Why deflect? I simply recognize that it hasn't been included in any Christian canonical list that I'm aware of.
It has been some time since I've dealt with it. I can't say I remember every word. I can say that you should be able to espouse why it should be included when the authors are not clearly known and the extant text comes from no later than the 18th century.
David Koberstein
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I am not deflecting. Your response shows your ignorance about the Jewish
Didache.To anyone who is serious about understanding Christianity, The Didache is a must-read. It is one of the earliest Christian texts, about as old as the New Testament Gospels themselves--and in fact, many of the Church Fathers who compiled the Gospels thought it belonged.
I compare and evaluate the protestant/evangelical doctrines of today against the teachings of the twelve Jewish Apostles to the Gentiles(that means you) and I found out that the protestant/evangelical church doctrines fall way short of that metric and are possibly pagan.
The Didache is considered part of the group of second-generation Christian writings known as the Apostolic Fathers. The work was considered by some Church Fathers to be a part of the New Testament, while being rejected by others as spurious or non-canonical. In the end, it was not accepted into the New Testament canon.
The Didache meaning “Teaching” is the short name of a Christian manual compiled before 300AD. The full title is The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles. Some Christians thought Didache was inspired, but the church rejected it when making the final decision which books to include in the New Testament.
The Didache is probably the oldest patristic document. Its full title originally was, "The Lord's Instruction to the Gentiles Through the Twelve Apostles." The author and place of origin are unknown. In fact the work itself was discovered only at the end of the last century.
The Didache is one of the earliest collections of Christian writings, and was often paired with the New Testament in the early Church. After the New Testament, the Didache stands as one of the more influential collections of early Christian writings that allows us a glimpse into the beginnings of Christianity.
The Didache,The Teaching Of The Twelve Apostles. ( Note:The Didache is possibly the oldest surviving non-canonical work. It is believed to have been written 60-100 AD. Its source is thought to have been a the First Church Council (50 AD) as found in Acts 15:28.
My Jewish Bible and my Jewish Didache are the only books that I study from and to evaluate 'fake' churches and so called Christian people.
Shalom שלום
praise_yeshua
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What is the age of the manuscript you have as a copy? Jews love to appeal to very late manuscripts and pretend there origins are found from 1st century.I am not deflecting. Your response shows your ignorance about the Jewish
To anyone who is serious about understanding Christianity, The Didache is a must-read. It is one of the earliest Christian texts, about as old as the New Testament Gospels themselves--and in fact, many of the Church Fathers who compiled the Gospels thought it belonged.
I compare and evaluate the protestant/evangelical doctrines of today against the teachings of the twelve Jewish Apostles to the Gentiles(that means you) and I found out that the protestant/evangelical church doctrines fall way short of that metric and are possibly pagan.
The Didache is considered part of the group of second-generation Christian writings known as the Apostolic Fathers. The work was considered by some Church Fathers to be a part of the New Testament, while being rejected by others as spurious or non-canonical. In the end, it was not accepted into the New Testament canon.
The Didache meaning “Teaching” is the short name of a Christian manual compiled before 300AD. The full title is The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles. Some Christians thought Didache was inspired, but the church rejected it when making the final decision which books to include in the New Testament.
The Didache is probably the oldest patristic document. Its full title originally was, "The Lord's Instruction to the Gentiles Through the Twelve Apostles." The author and place of origin are unknown. In fact the work itself was discovered only at the end of the last century.
The Didache is one of the earliest collections of Christian writings, and was often paired with the New Testament in the early Church. After the New Testament, the Didache stands as one of the more influential collections of early Christian writings that allows us a glimpse into the beginnings of Christianity.
The Didache,The Teaching Of The Twelve Apostles. ( Note:The Didache is possibly the oldest surviving non-canonical work. It is believed to have been written 60-100 AD. Its source is thought to have been a the First Church Council (50 AD) as found in Acts 15:28.
My Jewish Bible and my Jewish Didache are the only books that I study from and to evaluate 'fake' churches and so called Christian people.
Shalom שלום
The earliest Christian document is probably the book of Job. Job has a Redeemer. Jesus Christ.
You can make all the claims you want. I see now evidence. Just claims.
Who is your Redeemer.
David Koberstein
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I'm not making any claims only the truth, You obviously are not educated or well learned on biblical and Jewish documents and biblical information. Your claims however are filled with falsehoods. What difference does it make what the age of my Didache manuscripts are, they are above your understanding. For your learning the book of Job is a
Jewish book not a Christian book. I suggest you attend a Messianic Jewish synagogue a take a class on the study of the Torah.Shalom
praise_yeshua
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I'm not making any claims only the truth, You obviously are not educated or well learned on biblical and Jewish documents and biblical information. Your claims however are filled with falsehoods. What difference does it make what the age of my Didache manuscripts are, they are above your understanding. For your learning the book of Job is a
Shalom
I've studied your culture for decades. I know them better than you do. I asked questions and you're ignoring then. Just claims without evidence.
Job had a Redeemer. Who is that Redeemer? Do I really need to quote extant manuscript in Hebrew for you?
David Koberstein
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You know nothing of my culture based on your baseless falsehood responses. The only culture you know is the pagan one you are currently living in. You are not Jewish, but probably a 'fake'' Christian with a huge oversized ego. Every 6 year old Jewish child in Hebrew school knows that the Bible is a Jewish book why are you spreading lies, and heresy that Job is a Christian book or document? Salvation is of the Jews . not the Christians. Sooner you learn that the better off you will be. You need to check your oversized ego in at the door before you get on this forum.
Shalom
child in Hebrew school knows that the Bible is a Jewish book why are you spreading lies, and heresy that Job is a Christian book or document? Salvation is of the Jews . not the Christians. Sooner you learn that the better off you will be. You need to check your oversized ego in at the door before you get on this forum. Shalom
praise_yeshua
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You know nothing of my culture based on your baseless falsehood responses. The only culture you know is the pagan one you are currently living in. You are not Jewish, but probably a 'fake'' Christian with a huge oversized ego. Every 6 year old Jewish
Shalom
The Scriptures tell us what a Jew really is.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
What ego. I'm not the one calling you a "fake Christian" after 3 or 4 responses to one another. Your children need to be taught differently. There is only one heir of Eternal things. That is Jesus Christ. All those who have received the circumcision of the heart are the descendants of Abraham through the Only Eternal Heir of Abraham. Jesus Christ.
Interesting how you a "Christian" would seek to dishonor Christ as you have. Jesus Christ has a name which is above every name.
Who is Christ to you?
David Koberstein
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First of all I don't need a pagan to tell me my ethnicity. My children are taught properly within their private Hebrew school. Who are you to tell me how to raise my children?
I am a Hebrew follower of Yeshua Hamashiach, so please don't label me as a Christian. I would always do business with a fellow Jew
before I ever would with a Christian. Who would you place your trust in a U.S. bank or an evangelical church?Shalom
praise_yeshua
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You're letting others teach them. Are you too lazy that you let others train your children for you for you.
You do what you want. I know the words you're claiming that guide your home myself. You have a very poor perspective of humanity. You'll pass it on to your children.
I am a Hebrew follower of Yeshua Hamashiach, so please don't label me as a Christian. I would always do business with a fellow Jew
Shalom
Neither. I place my trust in Christ Jesus.
David Koberstein
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Sorry that's not a bank or a church. Try again
praise_yeshua
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I remember you now....... Different forum handle?
You still talking about all the money you have in the bank?
David Koberstein
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Yes I have been blessed as a millionaire. I live debt free and pay no income tax. You could say I am living the American dream!
It sure took you long enough to figure out who I am.
Shalom
It sure took you long enough to figure out who I am.
Shalom
praise_yeshua
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Not long from my perspective. Out of the heart the mouth speaks......
David Koberstein
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I took a sabbatical. I had a bad fall and crushed my wrist and hand. Dr Derek Bernstein a Jewish board certified hand surgeon put me back together. I don't trust my healthcare to Gentiles.
praise_yeshua
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I hate to hear. Never good. My mother fractured her wrist and hand. Had to wear a mechanism that gradually stretched her hand out as it healed. Gentiles did okay for her.
I wish you the best in healing. Men can do wonderful things but only God is the healer.
David Koberstein
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Thank you, that part I do agree with you.
I been putting devotionals in the devotion forum.
David Koberstein
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I have taken a very negative view of evangelical churches and Christianity in general lately. A church leader at the Calvary church in Winston Salem was arrested last week on sexual abuse and rape of a child. He is being held on a $250,000 bond. Another church leader and Sunday school teacher at an evangelical church in High Point was arrested on statutory rape of children going back 3 years. He is being held on a $500,000 bond. These 2 arrests happen in the same week.
praise_yeshua
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I know. This is one more reason that "classifications" do NOT give certainty to relative actions. We must deal with the individual. Not the group. That is what I do. I appeal to groups to show that the masses are not where certainty will ever live....
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