An Article on free will

I think you misunderstand Cottrell. The church of Christ which he speaks of is not a denomination or any local church; but rather the true church which Jesus spoke of building in Matthew 16:18. Cottrell certainly was not against musical instruments in the church. There are within what is loosely called the Restoration Movement, which began in the early 1800s, three different divisions. One is most often called the Church of Christ and does employ only an A Cappella music service; one is referred to as an open membership congregation which means that "members" are not required to even be baptized believers so long as they attend and "join" the congregation They more often identify themselves as Disciples of Christ. The third one for which Cottrell (and I) is associated with was neither A Cappella nor open membership and is more often referred to as a "This or that Christian Church", such as the Lincoln Street Christian Church. There are some other distinctions, but that is the short version of the distinctions.
Jim, reading his work what little I have, lead me to believe he was a Church of Christ, and what ever difference that was between him and them, are very minor, so much so, you would never would know, unless you knew him personally, which I did not. But, that being said, his teaching concerning the new birth is strictly in agreement with the Church of Christ, 100%.

I love Cappella service, the only one that we partook in, even though I was not against a very limited use of music instruments, very limited!
 
Jim, I did devotion with four of my 18 grandchildren last night and this very subject came up since we are reading through John's gospel with four of them, laboring to teach them the scriptures ~ and this verse came up:

John 5:21​

“For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.”

So, my little Daniel, who is si. soon to be seven in July and reads along with us, and does quite well, has a very inquisitive mind, always thinking, much above his age level ~ wanted to know what it meant that the Father, which he knew was speaking of God, raiseth the dead. So, I told him (and the other three) who were the dead in this verse that Jesus was speaking about. I very briefly took them to Genesis and told them again about Adam and his sin that bought spiritual death upon Adam and Eve as soon as they sinned, and this is whom Jesus was speaking about in this particular verse. I explained to his little mind that spiritual death meant that all men are dead to spiritual deeds/acts pleasing to God, until God raised them to life by his mighty power. How mush they understood is yet to be seen, but I can assure you of this, tomorrow when I go back over what we have taught, he will remember, even though he might not be able to grasp its full meaning, but the seed has been planted.


No problem with doing natural things, for that's the very realm in which they live.
It's amazing how young children can oftentimes demonstrate that total depravity is wrong. Maybe it's you that needs time to grasp the full meaning of that. At least a seed has hopefully been planted in your mind.
 
Mans will is never free from Gods Sovereign will, even when men freely choose, they chose what Gods will predetermined for them to freely choose.
John 5:40 – "Yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life."

Greek: καὶ οὐ θέλετε ἐλθεῖν πρός με ἵνα ζωὴν ἔχητε.

Analysis: The verb θέλετε (thelō, "you are not willing") indicates an active refusal, demonstrating the volitional capacity of unbelievers to reject Christ.

Matthew 23:37 – "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing!"

Greek: καὶ οὐκ ἠθελήσατε (ēthelēsate, aorist of thelō, "you were not willing").

Analysis: Christ expresses a genuine desire (θέλω) to gather Jerusalem, but they exercise free will in rejecting Him.

Acts 7:51 – "You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you."

Greek: ἀεὶ τῷ πνεύματι τῷ ἁγίῳ ἀντιπίπτετε (antipiptete, "you always resist").

Analysis: The present active verb ἀντιπίπτω means "to oppose, resist," showing continuous opposition by the unbelievers

Romans 1:21 – "For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened."

Greek: γνόντες τὸν θεὸν οὐχ ὡς θεὸν ἐδόξασαν ("although they knew God, they did not glorify Him").

Analysis: This shows a conscious decision to reject acknowledging God despite having knowledge of Him.

Luke 7:30 – "But the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected the purpose of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him."

Greek: τὴν βουλὴν τοῦ θεοῦ ἠθέτησαν (ēthētēsan, "rejected, nullified").

Analysis: The Pharisees actively resisted God's will, demonstrating that human rejection of God's calling is possible.

John 3:19 – "And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil."

Greek: ἠγάπησαν γὰρ οἱ ἄνθρωποι μᾶλλον τὸ σκότος ἢ τὸ φῶς (ēgapēsan, "they loved" darkness).

Analysis: The imperfect verb ἀγαπάω (to love) shows a deliberate preference for darkness rather than light.

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 – "And with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

Greek: τὴν ἀγάπην τῆς ἀληθείας οὐκ ἐδέξαντο (ouk edexanto, "they did not accept the love of the truth").

Analysis: The verb δέχομαι (to receive, accept) is in the aorist middle, indicating a personal choice to reject the truth.

Hebrews 3:15 – "Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion."

Greek: μὴ σκληρύνητε τὰς καρδίας ὑμῶν (mē sklērunēte, "do not harden your hearts").

Analysis: The imperative verb σκληρύνω (to harden) implies human volition in resisting God's voice.

Deuteronomy 30:19 – "I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live."

Hebrew: וּבָחַרְתָּ בַּחַיִּים (ubacharta bachayyim, "you shall choose life").

Analysis: The verb בחר (bachar, "choose") is imperative, showing the necessity of human decision.

Proverbs 1:24-26 – "Because I have called and you refused to listen, have stretched out my hand and no one has heeded, because you have ignored all my counsel and would have none of my reproof, I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when terror strikes you."

Hebrew: וַתְּמָאֲנוּ שׁוּב (vat’ma’anu shuv, "you refused to return").

Analysis: The verb מאן (ma’an, "refuse") is a clear indication of volitional rejection.

Each of these passages shows that unbelievers exercise free will in responding to God's revelation, either by rejecting, resisting, or refusing to heed His call.

Acts 17:11-12 ESV Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so. Many of them therefore believed, with not a few Greek women of high standing as well as men.



—-[from προθυμια proth-oo-mee’-ah, meaning predisposition. See also – 2Co 8:11, 12, 19, 9:2;] The Calvinist may endeavor to suggest this willing predisposition of the Bereans was a result of regeneration, which they think is before faith is expressed. It is very difficult to convince them otherwise when their loyalty to Calvinism is so strong that they refuse to see the gospel of John clearly teaches light is freely received before faith which is before new birth life is given. See John 1:4-13, 12:35-36, 20:30-31.



Other NT verses to consider that speak to the issue of freewill are these –



1Cor 7:37 ESV But whoever is firmly established in his heart, being under no necessity but having his desire under control, and has determined this in his heart, to keep her as his betrothed, he will do well. —-from μη ἔχων ἀνάγκην , literally – “not having a necessity”, which would be impossible if everything was predetermined eternally and immutably, making every event a necessary result of God’s decree. Notice also the verse says this man “having his desire under control, and has determined this in his heart.”



1Cor 9:17 ESV For if I do this of my own will, I have a reward, but if not of my own will, I am still entrusted with a stewardship. —- from εχων hek-own’ meaning willingly.



2Cor 8:3 ESV For they gave according to their means, as I can testify, and beyond their means, of their own accord, and 2Cor 8:17 ESV For he not only accepted our appeal, but being himself very earnest he is going to you of his own accord. —-from αυθαιρετος ow-thah’-ee-ret-os – meaning self-chosen, and by implication – voluntary.



2Cor 9:7 ESV Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. —- from προαιρεομαι pro-ahee-reh’-om-ahee – meaning to choose for oneself before another thing, to prefer and by implication, to intend.



Phlm 1:14 ESV but I preferred to do nothing without your consent in order that your goodness might not be by compulsion but of your own accord. —- from εκουσιος hek-oo’-see-on – meaning willingness.



1Pet 5:2 ESV shepherd the flock of God that is among you, exercising oversight, not under compulsion, but willingly, as God would have you; not for shameful gain, but eagerly; —-from εκουσιον hek-oo-see’-ose – meaning willingly.



The existence of a free will, even post regeneration, runs counter to the idea of an eternally immutable divine will that had completely determined everything forever into the future before creation began. Calvinism is based upon that philosophical premise, making the exercise of any free-will for God or man impossible, before creation and especially after it. That premise makes a falsehood out of these clear Scriptures shared here. These Scriptures and many others clearly show that free will does exist and is being exercised by God and man.

You are stumped brother.

J.
 
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You've got me curious about Jack Cottrell. What distinguishes him from hundreds of other theologians of recent times?
He agrees with me:D:D
I tend to agree with what you mentioned about "illumination". Every single one of us possesses a God-given mind. So those who make use of it are blessed with intelligence. There's no rocket science in that fact.
Fortunately, the gift of eternal life is not dependent upon intelligence.
 
BUT
God does not CHOOSE who will be saved.
Man is ABLE to seek God.
Jesus atonement is for EVERYONE.
God's grace can be resisted.
Man has Free Will.

The ABOVE is what you have to show to be incorrect.

Man does not CHOOSE God.

Man is UNABLE to seek God apart from Christ.

Jesus' atonement is exclusively for God's chosen people.

God's Grace cannot be resisted.

Man has a self-will in unsaved individuals or a will bearing the image of Christ in saved individuals; moreover, no other type of will exists for man.

The ABOVE is what you will never show to be incorrect.

Man does not CHOOSE God.
This is Truth (John 14:6).
The Word of God “you did not choose Me, but I chose you” (John 15:16) and “I chose you out of the world” (John 15:19, includes salvation) nullifies your thought's first point of "God does not CHOOSE who will be saved" before you even scribed it.

Man is UNABLE to seek God apart from Christ.
This is Truth (John 14:6).
The Word of God “he who practices the Truth comes to the Light, that his works may be revealed, that they are having been worked in God” (John 3:21) nullifies your thought's second point of "Man is ABLE to seek God [apart from God]" before you even scribed it.

Jesus' atonement is exclusively for God's chosen people.
This is Truth (John 14:6).
The Word of God “You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the Truth. Everyone who is of the Truth hears My voice” (John 18:37) and "I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father except because of Me" (John 14:6) and "the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many" (Matthew 20:28) ("many" is the Word, not "EVERYONE") nullifies your thought's second point of "Jesus atonement is for EVERYONE" before you even scribed it.

God's Grace cannot be resisted.
This is Truth (John 14:6).
This deductive reasoning
  • God loves Daphne of the world before and after Daphne hears of Christ. Daphne chose to love/believe in Christ, so God rewards Daphne with eternal life.
  • God loves Fred of the world before and after Fred hears of Christ. Fred chose not to love/believe in Christ, so God punishes Fred with eternal death.
  • Conclusion: the Love of God is so very weak that people like Fred draw the Love of God to burn in hell for eternity according to your Free-willian Philosophy.
shows your thought's third point of "God's grace can be resisted" results in God's love forever burning in hell according to your thoughts.

Man has a self-will in unsaved individuals (2 Peter 2:9-10) or a will bearing the image of Christ in saved individuals (Romans 8:29); moreover, no other type of will exists for man.
This is Truth (John 14:6).
In the absence of the Word of God declaring man was imparted a free-will, your heart (Matthew 15:16-19, Matthew 6:21) awards yourself a free-will with your self-assigned God power "Man has Free Will" of your thought's fifth point. God never imparted Adam nor you nor anyone with a free-will, but you were created with a self-will (2 Peter 2:9-10).

So, your Free-willian Philosophy folds into itself causing catastrophic confusion and calamity inside your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) distorted non-gospel points (Galatians 1:7) - you believe Jesus Christ is not who Lord Jesus Christ says He is!

In other words, your points after "God does not CHOOSE who will be saved" are smashed because your leading point is demolished.

Self-will or image of Christ will​

These 16 parts integrally contribute to one full composition. A response to post #6,699.
Part 1 of 16: Illegitimate Isolation
Part 2 of 16: Self-exaltation
Part 3 of 16: Unity Prayer (Acts 4:24)
Part 4 of 16: CHOOSE, ABLE, list
Part 5 of 16: God creates all
Part 6 of 16: Matthew 11 examined
Part 7 of 16: Free-willian NT Conflict
Part 8 of 16: John 3 16/Matthew 11:25
Part 9 of 16: Free-willian Self-savior
Part 10 of 16: Faith, the gift of God
Part 11 of 16: Free-willian are self-willed
Part 12 of 16: The Potter and the clay
Part 13 of 16: the problem here
Part 14 of 16: you confuse Calvin for Christ
Part 15 of 16: Christ controls Christians
Part 16 of 16: Christians hear Christ
 
You've got me curious about Jack Cottrell. What distinguishes him from hundreds of other theologians of recent times?

I tend to agree with what you mentioned about "illumination". Every single one of us possesses a God-given mind. So those who make use of it are blessed with intelligence. There's no rocket science in that fact.
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Man does not CHOOSE God.

Man is UNABLE to seek God apart from Christ.

Jesus' atonement is exclusively for God's chosen people.

God's Grace cannot be resisted.

Man has a self-will in unsaved individuals or a will bearing the image of Christ in saved individuals; moreover, no other type of will exists for man.

The ABOVE is what you have to show to be incorrect.
John 1:12-13 – "But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those believing in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God."

Greek: ὅσοι δὲ ἔλαβον αὐτόν (hosoi de elabon auton, "as many as received Him").

Analysis: The verb λαμβάνω (lambanō, "to take, receive") is an active aorist, meaning those who accepted Christ exercised volition before being given the right to become children of God.

John 3:14-16 – "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life."

Greek: πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων (pas ho pisteuōn, "everyone who believes").

Analysis: Faith is presented as the necessary and volitional response to Christ's atonement, just as the Israelites had to look at the serpent to be healed.

Matthew 11:28 – "Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."

Greek: Δεῦτε πρός με (Deute pros me, "Come to me").

Analysis: The imperative δεῦτε (a second-person plural command) invites voluntary response; it is not forced upon them.

Acts 2:41 – "So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls."

Greek: οἱ μὲν οὖν ἀποδεξάμενοι τὸν λόγον αὐτοῦ (hoi men oun apodexamenoi ton logon autou, "those who gladly received his word").

Analysis: The middle voice of ἀποδέχομαι (apodechomai, "to accept, welcome") implies personal and willing reception of the gospel.

Acts 13:48 – "And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed."

Greek: ὅσοι ἦσαν τεταγμένοι εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιον ἐπίστευσαν.

Analysis: While Calvinists argue that τεταγμένοι (tetagmenoi, "appointed") implies predestination, the participle can also mean "disposed," indicating a readiness to accept the gospel.

Joshua 24:15 LXX – "And if it seems not good to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods of your fathers, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell: but I and my house, we will serve the Lord."

Greek: ἐκλέξασθε ἑαυτοῖς σήμερον τὸν Κύριον ("Choose for yourselves today the Lord").

Analysis: The verb ἐκλέγομαι (eklegomai, "to choose") in the imperative form commands a decision, demonstrating volitional choice in following God.

Luke 8:12-15 – "The ones along the path are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved… But the seed in the good soil, these are the ones who, having heard the word with an honest and good heart, hold it fast and bear fruit with patience."

Greek: ἐν καρδίᾳ καλῇ καὶ ἀγαθῇ ("in an honest and good heart").

Analysis: The good soil represents individuals who freely receive and retain the word, while others reject it, showing personal responsibility.

Romans 10:9-10 – "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved."

Greek: ἐὰν ὁμολογήσῃς… καὶ πιστεύσῃς ("if you confess… and believe").

Analysis: The conditional ἐὰν clause indicates a decision that precedes salvation, countering the idea that faith is irresistibly imposed.

John 6:67-68 – "So Jesus said to the twelve, 'Do you also want to go away?' Simon Peter answered him, 'Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.'"

Greek: μὴ καὶ ὑμεῖς θέλετε ὑπάγειν; ("Do you also want to go away?").

Analysis: The verb θέλετε (thelete, "want") shows that even among the disciples, the choice to follow Christ remained open.

2 Corinthians 5:20 – "Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God."

Greek: δεόμεθα ὑπὲρ Χριστοῦ, καταλλάγητε τῷ Θεῷ ("We beg you… be reconciled to God").

Analysis: The imperative καταλλάγητε (katallagēte, "be reconciled") is an exhortation for individuals to respond willingly to God's offer of salvation.

These passages demonstrate that people actively choose to receive Christ, respond to the gospel, and believe before regeneration.

J.
 
Man does not CHOOSE God.

Man is UNABLE to seek God apart from Christ.

Jesus' atonement is exclusively for God's chosen people.

God's Grace cannot be resisted.

Man has a self-will in unsaved individuals or a will bearing the image of Christ in saved individuals; moreover, no other type of will exists for man.

The ABOVE is what you will never show to be incorrect.

Many have already, but you refuse to read it. As our brother @synergy said " Every single one of us possesses a God-given mind. So those who make use of it are blessed with intelligence."

You have failed. You need to change your user name to predestined Stepford man.

Man does not CHOOSE God.
This is Truth (John 14:6).
The Word of God “you did not choose Me, but I chose you” (John 15:16) and “I chose you out of the world” (John 15:19, includes salvation) nullifies your thought's first point of "God does not CHOOSE who will be saved" before you even scribed it.

Man is UNABLE to seek God apart from Christ.
This is Truth (John 14:6).
The Word of God “he who practices the Truth comes to the Light, that his works may be revealed, that they are having been worked in God” (John 3:21) nullifies your thought's second point of "Man is ABLE to seek God [apart from God]" before you even scribed it.

How in the world can you possibly keep quoting the very statements when it has been proven this was strictly for the disciples in that day.
Jesus' atonement is exclusively for God's chosen people.
This is Truth (John 14:6).
The Word of God “You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the Truth. Everyone who is of the Truth hears My voice” (John 18:37) and "I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father except because of Me" (John 14:6) and "the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many" (Matthew 20:28) ("many" is the Word, not "EVERYONE") nullifies your thought's second point of "Jesus atonement is for EVERYONE" before you even scribed it.

God's Grace cannot be resisted.
This is Truth (John 14:6).
This deductive reasoning
  • God loves Daphne of the world before and after Daphne hears of Christ. Daphne chose to love/believe in Christ, so God rewards Daphne with eternal life.
  • God loves Fred of the world before and after Fred hears of Christ. Fred chose not to love/believe in Christ, so God punishes Fred with eternal death.
  • Conclusion: the Love of God is so very weak that people like Fred draw the Love of God to burn in hell for eternity according to your Free-willian Philosophy.
shows your thought's third point of "God's grace can be resisted" results in God's love forever burning in hell according to your thoughts.

Man has a self-will in unsaved individuals (2 Peter 2:9-10) or a will bearing the image of Christ in saved individuals (Romans 8:29); moreover, no other type of will exists for man.
This is Truth (John 14:6).
In the absence of the Word of God declaring man was imparted a free-will, your heart (Matthew 15:16-19, Matthew 6:21) awards yourself a free-will with your self-assigned God power "Man has Free Will" of your thought's fifth point. God never imparted Adam nor you nor anyone with a free-will, but you were created with a self-will (2 Peter 2:9-10).

So, your Free-willian Philosophy folds into itself causing catastrophic confusion and calamity inside your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) distorted non-gospel points (Galatians 1:7) - you believe Jesus Christ is not who Lord Jesus Christ says He is!

In other words, your points after "God does not CHOOSE who will be saved" are smashed because your leading point is demolished.

Self-will or image of Christ will​

These 16 parts integrally contribute to one full composition. A response to post #6,699.
Part 1 of 16: Illegitimate Isolation
Part 2 of 16: Self-exaltation
Part 3 of 16: Unity Prayer (Acts 4:24)
Part 4 of 16: CHOOSE, ABLE, list
Part 5 of 16: God creates all
Part 6 of 16: Matthew 11 examined
Part 7 of 16: Free-willian NT Conflict
Part 8 of 16: John 3 16/Matthew 11:25
Part 9 of 16: Free-willian Self-savior
Part 10 of 16: Faith, the gift of God
Part 11 of 16: Free-willian are self-willed
Part 12 of 16: The Potter and the clay
Part 13 of 16: the problem here
Part 14 of 16: you confuse Calvin for Christ
Part 15 of 16: Christ controls Christians
Part 16 of 16: Christians hear Christ
 
John 1:12-13 – "But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those believing in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God."

Greek: ὅσοι δὲ ἔλαβον αὐτόν (hosoi de elabon auton, "as many as received Him").

Analysis: The verb λαμβάνω (lambanō, "to take, receive") is an active aorist, meaning those who accepted Christ exercised volition before being given the right to become children of God.

John 3:14-16 – "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life."

Greek: πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων (pas ho pisteuōn, "everyone who believes").

Analysis: Faith is presented as the necessary and volitional response to Christ's atonement, just as the Israelites had to look at the serpent to be healed.

Matthew 11:28 – "Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."

Greek: Δεῦτε πρός με (Deute pros me, "Come to me").

Analysis: The imperative δεῦτε (a second-person plural command) invites voluntary response; it is not forced upon them.

Acts 2:41 – "So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls."

Greek: οἱ μὲν οὖν ἀποδεξάμενοι τὸν λόγον αὐτοῦ (hoi men oun apodexamenoi ton logon autou, "those who gladly received his word").

Analysis: The middle voice of ἀποδέχομαι (apodechomai, "to accept, welcome") implies personal and willing reception of the gospel.

Acts 13:48 – "And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed."

Greek: ὅσοι ἦσαν τεταγμένοι εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιον ἐπίστευσαν.

Analysis: While Calvinists argue that τεταγμένοι (tetagmenoi, "appointed") implies predestination, the participle can also mean "disposed," indicating a readiness to accept the gospel.

Joshua 24:15 LXX – "And if it seems not good to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods of your fathers, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell: but I and my house, we will serve the Lord."

Greek: ἐκλέξασθε ἑαυτοῖς σήμερον τὸν Κύριον ("Choose for yourselves today the Lord").

Analysis: The verb ἐκλέγομαι (eklegomai, "to choose") in the imperative form commands a decision, demonstrating volitional choice in following God.

Luke 8:12-15 – "The ones along the path are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved… But the seed in the good soil, these are the ones who, having heard the word with an honest and good heart, hold it fast and bear fruit with patience."

Greek: ἐν καρδίᾳ καλῇ καὶ ἀγαθῇ ("in an honest and good heart").

Analysis: The good soil represents individuals who freely receive and retain the word, while others reject it, showing personal responsibility.

Romans 10:9-10 – "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved."

Greek: ἐὰν ὁμολογήσῃς… καὶ πιστεύσῃς ("if you confess… and believe").

Analysis: The conditional ἐὰν clause indicates a decision that precedes salvation, countering the idea that faith is irresistibly imposed.

John 6:67-68 – "So Jesus said to the twelve, 'Do you also want to go away?' Simon Peter answered him, 'Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.'"

Greek: μὴ καὶ ὑμεῖς θέλετε ὑπάγειν; ("Do you also want to go away?").

Analysis: The verb θέλετε (thelete, "want") shows that even among the disciples, the choice to follow Christ remained open.

2 Corinthians 5:20 – "Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God."

Greek: δεόμεθα ὑπὲρ Χριστοῦ, καταλλάγητε τῷ Θεῷ ("We beg you… be reconciled to God").

Analysis: The imperative καταλλάγητε (katallagēte, "be reconciled") is an exhortation for individuals to respond willingly to God's offer of salvation.

These passages demonstrate that people actively choose to receive Christ, respond to the gospel, and believe before regeneration.

J.
Enlarged so maybe @Kermos will read it.


These passages demonstrate that people actively choose to receive Christ, respond to the gospel, and believe before regeneration.
 
Again, let it be clearly understood, that they is no new revelation to be given, nor does God speak to men in any way, other than through the voices of the prophets and apostles that is recorded for us in the scriptures ~ but just as true, no man can understand the scriptures using theri natural wisdom and ability, apart from God opening one's understanding to receive his hidden truths therein ~ if this is not so, then the majority of the world could understand the word of God when most of God's children could not, yet it is the other way around.
That doesn't even make sense. Once again, that derives from the doctrine of Total Depravity, not from the Scriptures properly understood. God would not issue commands that could not be obeyed using the natural wisdom and ability, apart from God's opening the understanding to receive. Nor would God establish covenants which could not be understood and engaged apart from His opening the understanding to participate in.

1 John 2:20​

“But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.”

Jim, John writing to Christians saying to them that they had an unction from God, an unction that the world did not know, nor had.

The Spirit among many other things reveals to the soul the suitability and sufficiency of Christ to meet its desperate needs.
I don't even really know what it might mean that the Spirit reveals something, anything, to the soul.
It is an important branchof the Spirit’s teaching to open the Gospel to those whom He has quickened, enlightened, and convicted—and to open their understanding and affections to take in the precious contents of the Gospel. “He shall glorify Me” said the Savior, “for He shall receive of Mine, and shall show it unto you” (John 16:14).
John 16:14, in fact nearly all of John 16, is directed at and only at his disciples there with him at the last supper. Hardly any of it is directed at the universal believer.
This is His prime function: to magnify Christ in the esteem of “His own.” The Spirit teaches the believer many things,
The spirit teaches the believer only through the written word. He does help the believer to use his natural abilities as best he can.
but His supreme subject "is Christ": to emphasize His claims, to exalt His Person, to reveal His perfections, to make Him superlatively attractive. Many things in Nature are very beautiful, but when the sun shines upon them, we appreciate their splendor all the more. Thus it is when we are enabled by the Spirit teaching us through his word to view Christ in the light of the Spirit’s teaching, and those he does, have a gospel of pure grace as far as free justification through the obedience and righteousness of Christ, those whom he does not teach preaches a system of works in order to be accepted by God.
Once again you make the really bad assumption that the Spirit's work can be effective only for one who has been born again. That is simply not true. The Holy Spirit is active in the life of the unregenerate as well as the regenerate. The essential difference is not in the work of the Holy Spirit but rather in the response of the individual to the work of the Holy Spirit.
If a man rejects the teaching of God's Spirit, then it is inevitable that that man will embrace another gospel, if he's trusting only in his own wisdom and the wisdom of other men.

John 16:13-16​

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.”
Again, that was spoken to and meant for the apostles (v.12). Interestingly, while it should be clear that John 16:13-16 was reserved to the apostles, Jesus just before that said, John 16:8 "And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: :9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; 10 concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged". That has reference to "the world", i.e., reference to all humanity.
Jim, if you and others reject such scriptures as only applying to the apostles, then you are just as guilty as the preterist are in their eschatology teachings, and them rubber stamping so much of the word of God FULFILLED 70 A.D. ! Leaving us very little bible for us to believe in and teach as pertaining to these times, etc.
But it is one of the most important requirements in the study of the scriptures to know and understand who is speaking, to whom it is being spoken and about whom it is being spoken. Failure to do so leads to all manner of misinterpretation and misinformation. Knowing that verses such as John 16:13 is Jesus speaking only to the apostles about the apostles is critical to understanding what is being taught us. And it has nothing to do with preterist eschatology.
 
He agrees with me:D:D

Fortunately, the gift of eternal life is not dependent upon intelligence.
Spiritual intelligence can certainly convict one of his desperate need for a Savior. That's synergy between the Holy Spirit and the not-yet regenerated individual.
 
So man can never tie his will to satan? What about verses like 2 Tim 2:25-26 (being captured by the devil) or Eph 2:1-2 (following the prince of the power of the air) or Acts 5:3 (satan has filled their hearts to lie)?

Only if God predetermined it for a better cause like the Cross. Otherwise, they could be choosing Satan's will if they choose evil.
Mans will is never free from Gods Sovereign will, Whenever anyone does anything, they are doing Gods will
 
I'm curious. What is being restored to what? Is it a restoration of their churches? What is the basis and goal of their restoration?
In a nut shell, the goal was to cease any consideration, tribute and adherence to any man-made creeds and the restoration of the word of God as the only source for doctrine.
 
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