brightfame52
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Its a spiritual inability remember ?
An Article on free will
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Why are you not able to address these scriptures?
Luke 8:13 (LEB) — 13 And those on the rock are those who receive the word with joy when they hear it, and these do not have enough root, who believe for a time and in a time of testing fall away.
and why it was necessary to harden these so they do not believe
John 12:40 (LEB) — 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.”
It's his Calvinist lens which keeps him from seeing biblical truth .
brightfame52
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Its a spiritual inability remember ?
Larry
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I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live.
Deuteronomy 30:19
The words and their implications seem clear enough. Moses speaks for God and says, “I offer you a choice. You can be blessed or cursed. Choose to obey God and you choose the blessing. Choose to turn away from His ways and you choose the curse.” That is freedom of choice, and it speaks as clearly as if the written word had said directly that fallen humanity has freedom of will.
Deuteronomy 30:19
The words and their implications seem clear enough. Moses speaks for God and says, “I offer you a choice. You can be blessed or cursed. Choose to obey God and you choose the blessing. Choose to turn away from His ways and you choose the curse.” That is freedom of choice, and it speaks as clearly as if the written word had said directly that fallen humanity has freedom of will.
Are you saying you lack the spiritual ability to address scripture?
Why are you not able to address these scriptures?
Luke 8:13 (LEB) — 13 And those on the rock are those who receive the word with joy when they hear it, and these do not have enough root, who believe for a time and in a time of testing fall away.
and why it was necessary to harden these so they do not believe
John 12:40 (LEB) — 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.”
brightfame52
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Its a spiritual inability remember ? None of those verses say man has spiritual ability.
civic
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this is their achilles heal- blinding someone who is already dead is not necessary lol. it shows the inconsistency in their doctrines and its an oxymoron.
Are you saying you lack the spiritual ability to address scripture?
Why are you not able to address these scriptures?
Luke 8:13 (LEB) — 13 And those on the rock are those who receive the word with joy when they hear it, and these do not have enough root, who believe for a time and in a time of testing fall away.
and why it was necessary to harden these so they do not believe
John 12:40 (LEB) — 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.”
brightfame52
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None of those verses say man has spiritual ability.
Your theology cannot explain how those men could believe
Are you saying you lack the spiritual ability to address scripture?
Why are you not able to address these scriptures?
Luke 8:13 (LEB) — 13 And those on the rock are those who receive the word with joy when they hear it, and these do not have enough root, who believe for a time and in a time of testing fall away.
and why it was necessary to harden these so they do not believe
John 12:40 (LEB) — 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.”
brightfame52
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None of those verses say man has spiritual ability.
This remains true
your theology cannot account for these
Luke 8:13 (LEB) — 13 And those on the rock are those who receive the word with joy when they hear it, and these do not have enough root, who believe for a time and in a time of testing fall away.
and why it was necessary to harden these so they do not believe
John 12:40 (LEB) — 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.”
brightfame52
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None of those verses say man has spiritual ability.
You are in denial and have no answers
These did believe although temporarily
Luke 8:13 (LEB) — 13 And those on the rock are those who receive the word with joy when they hear it, and these do not have enough root, who believe for a time and in a time of testing fall away.
and why it was necessary to harden these so they do not believe
John 12:40 (LEB) — 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.”
brightfame52
Well-known member
None of those verses say man has spiritual ability.
civic
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Amen preach it brother !
His theology leaves him without answers
How were these able to believe
Luke 8:13 (LEB) — 13 And those on the rock are those who receive the word with joy when they hear it, and these do not have enough root, who believe for a time and in a time of testing fall away.
and why it was necessary to harden these so they do not believe
John 12:40 (LEB) — 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.”
You never address the issues
brightfame52
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None of those verses say man has spiritual ability. Nothing is said about them being able to believe spiritually, they cant.
