An Article on free will

Kermos said:
I am a Christian because I believe in the One True God who is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, so your heart insults the One True God! I believe Christ of as Christians who says:

The One True God, the gracious Benefactor of us Christians, exclusively produces
  1. divine choice of we beneficiaries unto salvation, for the Christ of us Christians says “you did not choose Me, but I chose you” (John 15:16) and “I chose you out of the world” (John 15:19)
    AND, Paul is in accord with Jesus’ words for he wrote to the Ephesians “Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly [places] in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love” (Ephesians 1:3-4)
    SO, clearly, Jesus’ words in John 15:16 and John 15:19 state God exclusively chooses us believers by/of/through God
  2. beneficiaries’ faith/belief in Lord Jesus, for the Christ of us Christians says (see also a word about belief/faith (Greek πίστις pistis) and believe (Greek πιστεύω pisteuó))
    “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent” (John 6:29)
    AND Paul is in accord with Jesus’ words for Paul wrote to the Ephesians “by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, [it is] the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His work” (Ephesians 2:8-10)
    AND Peter is in accord with Jesus’ words for Peter declared “God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us; and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith” (Acts 15:8-9)
    SO, clearly, Jesus’ words in John 6:29 state for us believers to believe in Jesus whom the Father has sent is exclusively by/of/through God
  3. beneficiaries’ fruit of the Spirit/righteous actions/good works, for the Christ of us Christians says
    “he who practices the Truth comes to the Light, so that his works may be manifested as having been wrought in God” (John 3:21)
    AND Paul is in accord with Jesus’ words for he wrote to the Philippians “being filled with the fruit of righteousness that [is] by Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God” (Philippians 1:11)
    SO, clearly, Jesus’ words in John 3:21 state fruit in we believers is exclusively by/of/through God
  4. beneficiaries’ birth by the Holy Spirit, for the Christ of us Christians says "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3) as well as “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit” (John 3:5-8)
    AND Peter is in accord with Jesus’ words for he wrote to persons residing as aliens “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
    SO, clearly, Jesus’ words in John 3:5-8 state we believers being born again is exclusively by/of/through God
  5. beneficiaries’ repent by God’s working, for the Christ of us Christians says
    “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to babes” (Matthew 11:25)
    AND the apostles and elders are in accord with Jesus’ words with thier saying, “Well then, God has given to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life” (Acts 11:18)
    SO, clearly, Jesus’ words in Matthew 11:25 state that God exclusively causes man to think differently after an encounter with God (repent means to think differently afterward)
  6. beneficiaries’ love by God’s working, for the Christ of us Christians says
    “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another” (John 13:34)
    AND John is in accord with Jesus’ words for he wrote “Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God” (1 John 4:7, see the phrase “love is from God” meaning God is the source of true love)
    AND John expands with his writing of “God is Love, and the one who abides in Love abides in God, and God abides in him” (1 John 4:16, see the phrase “one who abides in Love” is equivocated with “one who abides” “in God” which extends from God’s exclusivity with “God is Love”)
    SO, clearly, Jesus’ words in John 13:34 states that the love, true love (John 3:33), the very righteous love, the Godly love within us children of God, this love is exclusively by/of/through God

No Word of God you cite states man was imparted a free-will to choose toward God, but the above Word of God clearly states man does not choose God to any degree!

And here we have the Truth (John 14:6), the love of Christ controls us believers (2 Corinthians 5:14)!

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE ONE TRUE GOD!!!
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but a fatalist nevertheless
 
TibiasDad said:
Correct! And the Sovereign God has established that all who believe have eternal life and all who don’t believe are condemned. He does not say “all who are not given belief” are condemned, but those who don’t believe, those who don’t do what they can and should do when confronted by the gospel!

God’s sovereignty cannot be overridden or overthrown by your mistaken attempts to alter the plan of God’s graciousness toward mankind.


Doug
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They believe because they have eternal life. The ones who never believe its because Christ didn't die for them and give them eternal life, so they are still condemned by the Law.
 
TomL said:
Sorry there is nothing about the chosen people in John 3:14-18

John 3:14–18 (NASB 2020) — 14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes will have eternal life in Him. 16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

The Holy Spirit inspired the word world, not the chosen people of your gnostic Manichean doctrine

You have twisted and abused scripture
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Ditto
 
 
TomL said:
Sorry you were wrong on that

Synonyms for fatalism include123:
  • Resignation
  • Acceptance
  • Determinism
  • Passivity
  • Predestinarianism
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Seems like you are always wrong
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Nope. I have explained the differences and you are wrong as usual.
 
Presby02 said:
Nope. I have explained the differences and you are wrong as usual.
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Sorry you simply deny all evidence

Sorry you were wrong on that

Synonyms for fatalism include123:
  • Resignation
  • Acceptance
  • Determinism
  • Passivity
  • Predestinarianism
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Seems like you are always wrong

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fa·tal·ism
[ˈfādlˌizəm]
noun
  1. the belief that all events are predetermined and therefore inevitable:

Embrace your fatalism
 
civic said:
You are no authority the sources quoted are the recognized authority on the definition and meaning of words that expose your erroneous views
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So the appeal to authority fallacy?



And who said they are a recognized authority?

Determinism and fatalism are not synonymous terms. There are significant differences between them. Should I post them again so you can run and hide again?
 
TomL said:
Sorry you simply deny all evidence

Sorry you were wrong on that

Synonyms for fatalism include123:
  • Resignation
  • Acceptance
  • Determinism
  • Passivity
  • Predestinarianism
Learn more:




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8 Synonyms & Antonyms for FATALISM | Thesaur…
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Seems like you are always wrong

Dictionary
Data from Oxford Languages

fa·tal·ism
[ˈfādlˌizəm]
noun
  1. the belief that all events are predetermined and therefore inevitable:
Embrace your fatalism
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Nope. They are not synonymous terms.

Predestination is a term used in the Bible. Is the Bible fatalistic? How about the cross?
 
Presby02 said:
So the appeal to authority fallacy?



And who said they are a recognized authority?

Determinism and fatalism are not synonymous terms. There are significant differences between them. Should I post them again so you can run and hide again?
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You are in denial

fatalism​

noun​

fa·tal·ism ˈfā-tə-ˌli-zəm

: a doctrine that events are fixed in advance so that human beings are powerless to change them
 

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