All Claims of The Son's Deity

Actually, the book of Hebrews seems to clear up the subject when it says that when Jesus was on the earth that he was made like us in every way: “Therefore he [Jesus] had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God” (Hebrews 2:17). This verse shows that Jesus was not both fully human and fully God at the same time and if he was then he would not be like us in every respect. Adam, the first man was fully human and by his sin brought sin into the world. Jesus is called the “last Adam” (1Corinthians 15:45) and it seems that designation would not be appropriate if Jesus was not fully human in the same way that Adam was.

Adam is called a “type” of Jesus Christ (Romans 5:14). The word translated as “type” in many English versions is the translation of the Greek word tupos (τύπος) which can be defined as “a type, pattern, model, or example of something else.” Although the KJV translates tupos as “figure” most of the more modern versions say “pattern” (NIV), “prototype” (HCSB), or “type” (ESV, NAB, NASB). Adam was a type, prototype, or pattern of Christ because he was fully human and began without a sin nature—and Jesus was the same: fully human and made without a sin nature. The reason no other human male after Adam could be a “type” of Christ is that we are all born with a sin nature. Adam could not be a “type” of Christ if Jesus was 100% man and 100% God because Adam did not have a “God-nature.”

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That is such bad advice. Did you not see in Matt 28:19-20 that Jesus is right there for whoever actually looks at that verse? Is it really that hard to comprehend?
You're anti-Christ since you say it's bad advice to get baptized in the name of Jesus.
 
no you are projecting.

Philippians 2:6
who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,

John 10:30
I and the Father are one.”

John 14:9
Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

John 5:18
Because of this, the Jews tried all the harder to kill Him. Not only was He breaking the Sabbath, but He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.

John 20:28
Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!”

next fallacy

scripture just rebuked your false teachings

hope this helps !!!
None of those say Jesus is equal with God. Did you know Jesus and others said Jesus is not equal with God?

1. John 14:28 - Jesus explicitly states he is not equal with God:
“You heard me say to you, ‘I am going away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.”

2. John 5:19 - Jesus depends on the will of God, not his own will:
So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise.”

3. John 5:30 - Jesus is subordinate to God:
“I can do nothing on my own.
As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of Him who sent me.”

4. Mark 10:18 - Jesus denied being God:
“And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.’”

5. Matthew 24:36 - Jesus lacks the divine attribute of omniscience that only God has:
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

6. John 17:3 - Jesus ruled himself out as being God in any way, shape, form, or fashion when he explicitly stated the Father is the only true God:
“And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.”

7. 1 Corinthians 11:3 - Scriptures explicitly teaches that God has authority over Jesus:
“But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.”

8. 1 Corinthians 15:27–28 - Paul taught Jesus is eternally subordinate to God:
“For ‘God has put all things in subjection under His feet.’ But when it says, ‘all things are put in subjection,’ it is plain that He is excepted who put all things in subjection under Him. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to Him who put all things in subjection under Him, that God may be all in all.”

9. Acts 2:36 - God made Jesus Lord which means Jesus is not the source of his own authority:
“Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”

10. John 20:17 - Jesus called the Father "my God" meaning he is subordinate:
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
 
None of those say Jesus is equal with God. Did you know Jesus and others said Jesus is not equal with God?

1. John 14:28 - Jesus explicitly states he is not equal with God:
“You heard me say to you, ‘I am going away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.”

2. John 5:19 - Jesus depends on the will of God, not his own will:
So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise.”

3. John 5:30 - Jesus is subordinate to God:
“I can do nothing on my own.
As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of Him who sent me.”

4. Mark 10:18 - Jesus denied being God:
“And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.’”

5. Matthew 24:36 - Jesus lacks the divine attribute of omniscience that only God has:
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

6. John 17:3 - Jesus ruled himself out as being God in any way, shape, form, or fashion when he explicitly stated the Father is the only true God:
“And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.”

7. 1 Corinthians 11:3 - Scriptures explicitly teaches that God has authority over Jesus:
“But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.”

8. 1 Corinthians 15:27–28 - Paul taught Jesus is eternally subordinate to God:
“For ‘God has put all things in subjection under His feet.’ But when it says, ‘all things are put in subjection,’ it is plain that He is excepted who put all things in subjection under Him. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to Him who put all things in subjection under Him, that God may be all in all.”

9. Acts 2:36 - God made Jesus Lord which means Jesus is not the source of his own authority:
“Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”

10. John 20:17 - Jesus called the Father "my God" meaning he is subordinate:
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
you lack reading comprehension and understanding the plain truth of Scripture which declares Christ is God and worshiped as God by His disciples and followers.
 
you lack reading comprehension and understanding the plain truth of Scripture which declares Christ is God and worshiped as God by His disciples and followers.
Who did Jesus teach to worship? That's what I follow.

John 4
23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
 
Who did Jesus teach to worship? That's what I follow.

John 4
23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Nice dodge we are talking about Jesus who was called God and worshipped, stop deflecting and changing the topic
 
Nice dodge we are talking about Jesus who was called God and worshipped, stop deflecting and changing the topic
You won't read anything about Jesus ever being worshipped as God. It doesn't exist in any Scripture and you have your mind made up. Go ahead and show us where Jesus was ever worshipped as God or where anyone was instructed to worship him as God. When people bow to other people, yes it can be called worshipped, but bowing is as far as it goes. Even the devil can bow a literal knee. Does that mean he is literally worshipping in the kind of truthful sincerity of spirit that Jesus commanded his followers to give to the Father? No. Hence, no one ever worshipped Jesus in spirit and truth in the Bible, it's impossible to worship anyone other than the Father in such a way.
 
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You won't read anything about Jesus ever being worshipped as God. It doesn't exist in any Scripture and you have your mind made up. Go ahead and show us where Jesus was ever worshipped as God or where anyone was instructed to worship him as God. When people bow to other people, yes it can be called worshipped, but bowing is as far as it goes. Even the devil can bow a literal knee. Does that mean he is literally worshipping in the kind of truthful sincerity of spirit that Jesus commanded his followers to give to the Father? No. Hence, no one ever worshipped Jesus in spirit and truth in the Bible, it's impossible to worship anyone other than the Father in such a way.
We are discussing the Son not the Father quit deflecting and changing the topic
 
I don't belong to any sect ?
this has been something I have said for years...
I don't know how I could've been more clearer. A personal relationship is NOT a religion [sect], etc.
it really is best for me not to.

I'm being sincere here, not sarcastic at all when saying that I get the impression you may have some trust issues, edited Your responses sound incoherent.
 
I know its hard to believe they are blind to that simple truth in the passage.

This shows us how blinding false doctrine can be- its like a stronghold over the mind and heart over a person.
You've tried, it's all you can do ❤️
Proverbs 26:5; 12

When it comes believers, however, these are verses I always keep handy.
2 Corinthians 2:17; 2 Corinthians 4:2; Romans 16:17; 25; Titus 3:10-11; 2 Peter 1:20-21; 3:15-16

What verses do you keep handy?
 
The KJV is good, one of my favorites, but it has errors. You mentioned 1 John 5:7 which is one of the errors of the KJV. There are more. It's beneficial to be aware of these things and nod to them without throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. The KJV also doesn't contain the "Granville Sharp rule" and contains several instances where Jesus is clearly said to be created or not God. Later translations, especially those produced after the late 18th and 19th century, is when the big changes started to occur that your video talks about. You seem open to understanding this.
Jerusalem for the Old Testament (Romans 3:2), Antioch for the New Testament (Acts 11:26). Pretty straight forward. Once we understand how Satan works [i.e. kills true Christians], then we'll know which set of manuscripts can be trusted b/c they are the real threat. I'll go w/ where the blood of martyrs has been shed... since the Protestant Reformation especially... William Tyndale, King James almost [see Guy Fawks Night], the founding fathers of America, etc. If the Textus Receptus was good enough for them, it's good enough for me!

When I first became a Christian, these three main topics stirred up a lot of curiosity in me:

1) The Bible has errors in it/contradicts itself.
2) Why are there so many denominations?
3) Why so many English translations?


I honestly thought God has only one church & one Holy Bible. When someone said to me, "The Bible has errors in it." Instead of saying nah, I decided to look into why she made such a claim. As it turns out, she was both right & wrong. The Codex Sinaiticus & the Codex Vaticanus is where you'll find the real errors/contradictions. There's only one diamond in the rough, & that's the Textus Receptus. There's so much confusion, yet, I'm not confused at all. When a Christian has the real deal, there's no need to allegorize/spiritualize scripture just to force it to fit one's theology/eschatology.

Am I to believe God lied to us & failed to preserve His Word like He said He would? Am I to believe non-believers who practiced the occult & were cross-dressers??? :unsure:

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"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Hebrews 4:12

Could it be perhaps fallen humanity cannot tolerate the true Word of God b/c it offends them due to their sin nature?
 
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You're anti-Christ since you say it's bad advice to get baptized in the name of Jesus.
That is optional since his personhood is still showing him as God. But it is good to know the only reason you reject the trinitarian recognition of God is because you have not come to understand this aspect of God yet, not that you have an actual basis to reject it.
 
That is optional since his personhood is still showing him as God. But it is good to know the only reason you reject the trinitarian recognition of God is because you have not come to understand this aspect of God yet, not that you have an actual basis to reject it.
It would be wildly unusual for a genuine believer to say getting baptized in Jesus' name is optional. You really marginalize and minimize the New Testament example of Christianity.
 
I don't know how I could've been more clearer. A personal relationship is NOT a religion [sect], etc.

I'm being sincere here, not sarcastic at all when saying that I get the impression you may have some trust issues, perhaps suffer from some form of paranoia. Your responses sound incoherent.

thank you for the opinions about me personally.
but -
i don't see how assigning negative characteristics to me relates to anything i said.
 
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