Your Views on The Trinity

[Peterlag]

I don’t teach Trinity.

I haven’t mentioned Trinity.

All you have is denial.

But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And: “You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
Hebrews 1:8-10

Trinity, Oneness or the idea that Jesus is God is all the same to me. And like I already posted in detail... Hebrews is not saying Jesus is God or calling him God. It's a quote from the Old Testament referring to God and when it's quoted in Hebrews it's referring to Jesus using that throne. What you see that is not there is beyond me.

 

[mikesw]

Trinity, Oneness or the idea that Jesus is God is all the same to me. And like I already posted in detail... Hebrews is not saying Jesus is God or calling him God. It's a quote from the Old Testament referring to God and when it's quoted in Hebrews it's referring to Jesus using that throne. What you see that is not there is beyond me.

The interesting thing is that scriptures never challenge your incorrect beliefs

 

[Runningman]

The scripture plainly and clearly says…

But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;

Who does He refer to?

Answer: the Father of the Son.

What does He say to the Son?

Your throne O God is forever.

The only part that is to the Son is Hebrews 1:8,9, but in the original context of Psalm 45:6,7 it's not about the Son. It's most likely about king Solomon, though he isn't named explicitly, it would make sense. King Solomon isn't God is he? Hebrews 1:8,9 actually become powerful proofs against the deity of Jesus, and Trinitarianism in a general sense, when the context is taken into consideration.

 

[Runningman]

Trinity, Oneness or the idea that Jesus is God is all the same to me. And like I already posted in detail... Hebrews is not saying Jesus is God or calling him God. It's a quote from the Old Testament referring to God and when it's quoted in Hebrews it's referring to Jesus using that throne. What you see that is not there is beyond me.

I think they don't care about that. The king in Psalm 45 was a married man who loved to look at women. Rather than understanding that is not who Jesus is, I saw a Trinitarian actually adopt the belief that Jesus was either married or will get married later, contrary to Jesus explicitly teaching that those who are resurrected, such as Jesus himself, don't get married or re-marry if they were married prior to their resurrection.

 

[Peterlag]

We cannot approach the Bible with wisdom and “reason together” if we must invent and use non-biblical phrases to support our theology. The Bible calls Jesus the “Son” of God for the simple reason that he had a beginning. Jesus had been part of God’s plan since the foundation of the world, but he began his actual life when God “fathered” him and Mary conceived him in her womb.

There are many verses where Jesus and God are portrayed as two separate beings and there are too many examples to list, but just to mention a few we can look at when Jesus told the rich young ruler that he was not good, but “God” was good. Also Jesus grew in favor with “God” and with men, and he told his disciples“ Believe in God; believe also in me."