Calvinism is certainly not biblical
World = US = John 3:16
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Behold
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John Calvinism is one of Satan's finest Theologies.
Its explained in Hebrews 13:9
Its actually more universally prolific in damage then Islam, and that is because Calvinism deceives CHRISTians by the billions.., and Islam merely cuts off your head if they can get you into a Hamas Tunnel, today.
Calvinism ruins the faith of a Believer., and once faith is ruined then the walk of faith is over, and without this, you cannot please God.
But what a Calvinist will do, is try to convert everyone to Calvinism. = Galatians 1:8
e v e
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the sin realm and the sinners is a very misunderstood topic.
God did not create sinners. Us is His remnant out of jacob, all to be saved from this earth souls
this body and earth and current reality is sin. death.
Christ said He is not from here.
e v e
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true
e v e
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most of modern christianity is just as bad.
e v e
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no. the current human race concept and these bodies were not created by God.
There is no biblical evidence for that claim
Behold
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Nor did God create sin.
Behold
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jeremiah1five
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Jesus was prophesied TO and FOR Israel (Deut. 18:15, 18), He was manifest TO and FOR Israel (Jn. 1:31), He was sent only TO and FOR the lost sheep of the House of Israel, came and taught the lost sheep of the House of Israel, died and resurrected according to the Scripture shadowed in the sacrifices of the Tabernacle and Mosaic Law and saved "His people" (Matt. 1:21), and in the three Hebrew covenants there are no Gentiles included in the three 'limited' salvation Hebrew covenants.
John, as well as all the New Covenant writings from Matthew to Revelations were written TO and FOR the children of Israel and the context of and identity of the "any man" in John are of the Hebrew people He came to save.
But Gentiles have tried to weasel their way into God's three specific and closed Hebrew covenants since the destruction of the Jewish Temple. That's called inheritance theft, also known as tomb raiding. Gentiles have no inheritance from God because God made no covenant promises with Gentiles. God doesn't even like the unclean, uncircumcised, non-covenant, non-Hebrew Gentiles:
17 All nations before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.
There is no Scripture in the Law, Psalms, and Prophets God loves Gentiles. But there are 37 books of the Law, Psalms, and Prophets of God declaring His betrothal to Israel, calls Israel His Church and apple of His eye and declares many times His love for His marital covenanted children of Israel:
6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
Deut. 7:5–9.
Nowhere in the Law, Psalms, and Prophets does the LORD declare Gentiles/nations holy, special, elect, "above all nations of the earth", His Bride, His Church/Great Congregation, nor extend His provision, His covenants, His protection, His deliverance, nor love for Gentiles.
But the Bible states time after time those things and attitudes towards Abraham's seed the Children of Israel.
When you come to understand and accept these things as well as the history and involvement of God with the Hebrews because of His Promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, then you move closer to the knowledge of the truth.
The gospels record highlights and points of Jesus Christ, Redeemer, Deliverer, and Messiah and His relation with Israel "so that [they] might believe." But now we know that no one can believe unless acted upon them by God. But Israel has covenant with God and one day "all Israel shall be saved."
The epistles are written by Jewish Christians TO and FOR other Jewish Christians and the purpose was to share what they learned and discuss and reveal Israel's understanding of the New Covenant Era they found themselves in from Pentecost until the death of John. They had to "search the Scriptures" to reconcile the effect of Messiah and the Holy Spirit of Promise (to Israel) and their relationship to the Abrahamic and Mosaic Covenants, and this took time, much reflection and study in order to bring about a historical and Hebrew understanding of this salvation which is of the Jews.
Saul, after his repentance disappeared for 14-17 years with his books to do just that, and as a trained rabbi he searched the Scripture of the Law, Psalms, and Prophets for the understanding revealed in his letters to the Jews and was successful.
Revelation is prophecy about things to come upon Israel in the last days at the hands of Gentiles and their eventual victory over their confirmed enemies the Gentiles. Everything having to do with Israel's promised Redeemer, Deliverer, Savior, and King centers around the nation and people of Israel.
NOT Gentiles.
jeremiah1five
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God was in Christ reconciling the world of Jews unto Himself. You're dealing with the Greek definition, not the English definition which word now encompasses the planet and all mankind. In Greek the word defines "inhabitants" and the inhabitants of the 'eretz' are the children of Israel.
If you were fluent in Greek, you might understand.
You ignore the relationship and covenants the LORD has with Abraham and his seed. ALL 37 books and thousands and thousands of chapters of God's dealings with His covenant people Israel.
sorry no matter how you try you cannot remove God's overture to the gentiles
Ephesians 2:13–22 (KJV 1900) — 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Romans 9:23–25 (KJV 1900) — 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, 24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? 25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
That would be the gentiles and that appears in the Old Testament contrary to your claim
Hosea 2:23 (KJV 1900) — 23 And I will sow her unto me in the earth; And I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; And I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; And they shall say, Thou art my God.
Behold
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Noone was reconciled to God by Christ until He died on the Cross.
So, when we read John 3:16, that says that God so loved the WORLD...
And when we read 2 Corinthians 5:19, that was written by the "Apostle to the GENTILES" who said that God was in Christ reconciling the World back to God...
That is obviously teaching more then just "for the Jews".
e v e
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there is plenty if it troubled you enough to go, retranslate, enquire in prophets
and study.
here, in a social forum I cannot give you a cliff note proof. But neither is it required of me
to do. As far as I know God did not enshrine proofs and debating as a form of understanding
by the sons. LOL. All I am doing here is stating what I concluded after studying myself.
e v e
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Nope not even slightly. Why would I read a satanic snake if I can read God.
But if it satisfies you to make subtle aspersions on me and my character, go for it.
e v e
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No He did not.
Since you chose to sideways ad hom me with your cult quote,
I will not reply further. Take care.
So where is it?
I do not believe one should argue for a viewpoint and not produce evidence in support of it
An unsupported view really deserves no attention
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Adding your thoughts to scripture
2 Corinthians 5:19 (KJV 1900) — 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Jews do not appear in that verse
They do appear here with gentiles
Galatians 3:27–29 (KJV 1900) — 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Behold
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You posted this, and it makes no sense.
""""no. the current human race concept and these bodies were not created by God."""""
jeremiah1five
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Good luck with that.
