"Works Salvation"

Sorry you are simply denying scripture

The fact that no verse contradicts another only supports the fact one may be saved, receive life, be forgiven without water baptism
Wrong, because 1 Pet 3:21, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, John 3:5, and many others directly link water baptism with forgiveness, salvation, and eternal life. To say that 'other passages do not therefore baptism is not required' would be to make contradict these passages, which cannot be done.
 
Wrong, because 1 Pet 3:21, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, John 3:5, and many others directly link water baptism with forgiveness, salvation, and eternal life. To say that 'other passages do not therefore baptism is not required' would be to make contradict these passages, which cannot be done.
And many more do not.

Both are true, and if both are true, you cannot deny those that negate water baptism without denying scripture.
 
And many more do not.

Both are true, and if both are true, you cannot deny those that negate water baptism without denying scripture.
None "negate" water baptism. The fact that water baptism is set as a condition for salvation in ANY passage, makes it a condition, period! Stating that it does not denies Scripture.
Water baptism is a condition without which salvation does not occur according to Mark 16:16, Matt 2:19, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, John 3:5, Eph 5:25-27, 1 Pet 3:21, Col 2:11-14, and Rom 6:1-4. None of the other passages you have cited that do not mention water baptism negate this fact.
 
None "negate" water baptism. The fact that water baptism is set as a condition for salvation in ANY passage, makes it a condition, period! Stating that it does not denies Scripture.
Water baptism is a condition without which salvation does not occur according to Mark 16:16, Matt 2:19, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, John 3:5, Eph 5:25-27, 1 Pet 3:21, Col 2:11-14, and Rom 6:1-4. None of the other passages you have cited that do not mention water baptism negate this fact.
Thats works, whenever you make something you do as a condition for your salvation, that's works and apostate from Grace.
 
Thats works, whenever you make something you do as a condition for your salvation, that's works and apostate from Grace.
Good works is not the bogey man you're making them out to be. Paul even associates eternal life with doing good works in Rom 2:6. Besides, you also have James 2:24 to contend with.

6 who “will render to each one according to his deeds”:
7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;
8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath,
 
Thats works, whenever you make something you do as a condition for your salvation, that's works and apostate from Grace.
Scripture disagrees with your opinion.
James says that the actions that Abraham took made his faith perfect, and so he was justified by what he DID! (James 2:22-23)
And, as synergy said, James 2:24 says directly that we are justified by what we do, and not by faith alone.
And there are many passages, that have been mentioned before, that directly link something man does as a condition to receiving salvation. It is these passages that correct your understanding of Eph 2:8-9.
 
Calvinism is a false doctrine. How about looking at what Jesus commanded at the very beginning of His ministry:

Matthew 4:17 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
Mark 1:15 "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."

Peter's first sermon after Pentecost - "Repent ..."
His second sermon -"Therefore repent and return..."

Men are commanded to repent and believe, neither is a physical work, both are a work of the heart.

Contrary to Calvinism, lost people can believe. They DO have a free will to do so. The prodigal's father said that his son was DEAD, but now is alive, obviously referring to spiritual death, and spiritual life. Yet even the spiritually dead son was able to repent and believe, of his OWN FREE WILL.

Romans 4:1-5 Faith or belief IS NOT a physical work, but it IS required to be saved.
 
Calvinism is a false doctrine. How about looking at what Jesus commanded at the very beginning of His ministry:

Matthew 4:17 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
Mark 1:15 "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."

Peter's first sermon after Pentecost - "Repent ..."
His second sermon -"Therefore repent and return..."

Men are commanded to repent and believe, neither is a physical work, both are a work of the heart.

Contrary to Calvinism, lost people can believe. They DO have a free will to do so. The prodigal's father said that his son was DEAD, but now is alive, obviously referring to spiritual death, and spiritual life. Yet even the spiritually dead son was able to repent and believe, of his OWN FREE WILL.

Romans 4:1-5 Faith or belief IS NOT a physical work, but it IS required to be saved.
My only disagreement is with your insistence that faith does not require physical action. Rom 4:1-5 and James 2:22-24 both reference the same quote out of the OT. "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." One says that it was Abraham's faith by which he was justified. The other says that his actions worked with his faith, to make the faith perfect (complete), and by that he was justified. BOTH MUST BE CORRECT AND NOT CONTRADICT EACH OTHER. Without action, faith is incomplete and worthless. It is not the action that causes God to justify the person, but without the action God will not justify the person.
 
Good works is not the bogey man you're making them out to be. Paul even associates eternal life with doing good works in Rom 2:6. Besides, you also have James 2:24 to contend with.

6 who “will render to each one according to his deeds”:
7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;
8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath,
whenever you make something you do as a condition for your salvation, that's works and apostate from Grace.
 
Scripture disagrees with your opinion.
James says that the actions that Abraham took made his faith perfect, and so he was justified by what he DID! (James 2:22-23)
And, as synergy said, James 2:24 says directly that we are justified by what we do, and not by faith alone.
And there are many passages, that have been mentioned before, that directly link something man does as a condition to receiving salvation. It is these passages that correct your understanding of Eph 2:8-9.
Whenever you make something you do as a condition for your salvation, that's works and apostate from Grace.
 
None "negate" water baptism. The fact that water baptism is set as a condition for salvation in ANY passage, makes it a condition, period! Stating that it does not denies Scripture.
Water baptism is a condition without which salvation does not occur according to Mark 16:16, Matt 2:19, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, John 3:5, Eph 5:25-27, 1 Pet 3:21, Col 2:11-14, and Rom 6:1-4. None of the other passages you have cited that do not mention water baptism negate this fact.
Sorry you are denying scripture

John 3:14–15 (NASB 2020) — 14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes will have eternal life in Him.

John 3:16 (NASB 2020) — 16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:36 (NASB 2020) — 36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life; but the one who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”

John 5:24 (NASB 2020) — 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, the one who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

John 5:25 (NASB 2020) — 25 “Truly, truly, I say to you, a time is coming and even now has arrived, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.

John 5:39–40 (NASB 2020) — 39 “You examine the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is those very Scriptures that testify about Me; 40 and yet you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

John 6:40 (NASB 2020) — 40 For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.”

John 20:31 (NASB 2020) — 31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that by believing you may have life in His name.

Acts 16:30–31 (ESV) — 30 Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”

Romans 3:21–22 (ESV) — 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction:

Romans 3:23–25 (ESV) — 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.

Romans 3:26 (ESV) — 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Romans 3:27–28 (ESV) — 27 Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

Romans 3:30 (ESV) — 30 since God is one—who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith.

Romans 4:4–5 (ESV) — 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,

Romans 5:1 (ESV) — 1 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 10:8–9 (ESV) — 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 10:10 (ESV) — 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.

Acts 10:43 (ESV) — 43 To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

John 7:38–39 (ESV) — 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’ ” 39 Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive, for as yet the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

Galatians 3:2 (ESV) — 2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?

Galatians 3:5 (ESV) — 5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith—

Galatians 3:14 (ESV) — 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

Ephesians 3:17 (ESV) — 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love,

Ephesians 1:13 (ESV) — 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

and many many more
 
whenever you make something you do as a condition for your salvation, that's works and apostate from Grace.
Scripture refutes that idea

Romans 4:1–5 (ESV) — 1 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,
 
So you're saying that everyone who follows Christ"s proclamation to "Repent and Believe in the Gospel", as a condition for our salvation, is an apostate. Got it.
If you condition your salvation on doing something, its works and its apostate from the Gospel of Gods Grace.
 
If you condition your salvation on doing something, its works and its apostate from the Gospel of Gods Grace.
Either I follow Christ"s proclamation to "Repent and Believe in the Gospel", as a condition for my salvation, or I follow your apostate heresy. Sorry, Christ wins, you lose.
 
Scripture refutes that idea

Romans 4:1–5 (ESV) — 1 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,
That confirms, this talks about believing on Him that Justified the ungodly. They were justified by God before they believed, thats what they believed. So they were ungodly when Justified.

John Gill writes on Rom 4:5

But to him that worketh not,.... Not that the believer does not work at all, but not from such principles, and with such views as the other; he does not work in order to obtain life and salvation; he does not seek for justification by his doings:
but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly: or that ungodly one: particular reference is had to Abraham, who in his state of unregeneracy was an ungodly person; as all God's elect are in a state of nature, and are such when God justifies them, being without a righteousness of their own; wherefore he imputes the righteousness of another, even that of his own Son, unto them: and though he justifies the ungodly, he does not justify their ungodliness, but them from it; nor will he, nor does he leave them to live and die in it; now to him that worketh not, that is perfect righteousness; or has no opportunity of working at all; or what he does, he does not do, that he might be justified by it; but exercises faith on God as justifying persons, who, like himself, are sinners, ungodly and destitute of a righteousness:

his faith is counted for righteousness; not the act, but the object of it; which was Abraham's case, and therefore was not justified by works. The Vulgate Latin version here adds, "according to the purpose of the grace of God".
 
Either I follow Christ"s proclamation to "Repent and Believe in the Gospel", as a condition for my salvation, or I follow your apostate heresy. Sorry, Christ wins, you lose.
You follow the christ of your own making. If you condition salvation on anything you do, its works, and dishonoring to Jesus Christ the Saviour.
 
You follow the christ of your own making. If you condition salvation on anything you do, its works, and dishonoring to Jesus Christ the Saviour.
The phrase I highlighted is directly quoted from Mark 1:15. That proves that it's "you [who] follow the christ of your own making".
 
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