"Works Salvation"

[Jim]

I've always believed we are all born with a measure of faith.

Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith.

Romans 10:17 does produce faith, and it is rhema, the spoken word of God.

If you read and study that entire passage, you will understand that the subject being addressed there is the gifts of grace. It is the gifts that are given in proportion to our faith. It is not faith that is being given; rather it is the gifts that are being given. Our faith is used as the measure for assigning, i.e., giving, those gifts.

 

[charismaticlady]

God does not "give" us faith. He gave us Christ and His Gospel in whom/which we are to have faith. Faith is our response to Him. Faith is our trust and and reliance on Him, characterized and demonstrated by our obedient actions. If there are no actions, no obedience, then we do not really have faith, regardless of what we think or say.

I think you are wrong. I would think that faith in Christ would be more than one measure! No, I think God gives a measure to mankind. That is why atheists are called fools in Scripture.

cc: @Jim

 

[Doug Brents]

I think you are wrong. I would think that faith in Christ would be more than one measure! No, I think God gives a measure to mankind. That is why atheists are called fools in Scripture.

cc: @Jim

Atheists are called fools in Scripture because the natural world screams that there is a God (Rom 1:20).

Further, if faith were gifted from God, then Jesus had no reason to criticize the Apostles (and many others) for having little faith.

You are welcome to disagree with me all you want, but that doesn't change what Scripture says about faith being man's response to God, and not being a gift from God.

 

[charismaticlady]

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Atheists are called fools in Scripture because the natural world screams that there is a God (Rom 1:20).

Further, if faith were gifted from God, then Jesus had no reason to criticize the Apostles (and many others) for having little faith.

You are welcome to disagree with me all you want, but that doesn't change what Scripture says about faith being man's response to God, and not being a gift from God.

little faith is no faith at all

 

[Lions Mane]

And Jesus said unto them, “Because of your unbelief; for verily I say unto you, if ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, ‘Remove hence to yonder place,’ and it shall remove. And nothing shall be impossible unto you. Matthew 17:20

In the Parable of the Mustard Seed, Jesus used the tiny seed, which grows into a large tree, it symbolizes that even a tiny amount of faith can lead to great things and the ability to overcome large obstacles.