Why we naturally HATE penal substitution

As you wish.
Well, it is God's commandment for us my Brother in Christ

What is the Benefit and Purpose??? = TRUTH vs error

Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.


SHALOM
 
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So you would have to agree with me on the fact His humanity began at conception in the womb right ?

If so this is the moment where the Divine Son became human in the womb , not after His birth. The 2 natures were united in the womb , not after His birth.
 
So you would have to agree with me on the fact His humanity began at conception in the womb right ?

If so this is the moment where the Divine Son became human in the womb , not after His birth. The 2 natures were united in the womb , not after His birth.
Unless Scripture says otherwise = i AGREE with you on this

and, as always, i am open for correction from the Holy Scriptures
 
So you would have to agree with me on the fact His humanity began at conception in the womb right ?

If so this is the moment where the Divine Son became human in the womb , not after His birth. The 2 natures were united in the womb , not after His birth.
If you will, i would tweak your sentence unto perfection.

"If so this is the moment where the Word that was God entered the womb of Mary and became the Divine Son of the FATHER."

The Word never became the Divine Son of Mary = NEVER

Mary had a son = the son of Man =
this was exclusively her calling and nothing more =the Holy Spirit and JESUS Both said so!!!
 
So you would have to agree with me on the fact His humanity began at conception in the womb right ?

If so this is the moment where the Divine Son became human in the womb , not after His birth. The 2 natures were united in the womb , not after His birth.
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So you would have to agree with me on the fact His humanity began at conception in the womb right ?

If so this is the moment where the Divine Son became human in the womb , not after His birth. The 2 natures were united in the womb , not after His birth.
post 305 UPdated again
 
Your statement that i highlighted is not from God's Word.

The Lord Jesus Christ directly connects "our debts" to sin.

In this manner, therefore, pray:

Our Father in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.
And do not lead us into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen

“There was a certain creditor who had two debtors. One owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty.
And when they had nothing with which to repay, he freely forgave them both.
Tell Me, therefore, which of them will love him more?”

Simon answered and said, “I suppose the one whom he forgave more.”

And He said to him, “You have rightly judged.” Then He turned to the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave Me no water for My feet, but she has washed My feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head. You gave Me no kiss, but this woman has not ceased to kiss My feet since the time I came in.
You did not anoint My head with oil, but this woman has anointed My feet with fragrant oil.
Therefore I say to you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little.”

Then He said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”
It is if one has a deeper understanding of God's word. Your proof text does not shed any light on the validity of PSA.

You are using a bad enallage.

And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.

As we cannot forgive sin.
 
It is if one has a deeper understanding of God's word. Your proof text does not shed any light on the validity of PSA.

You are using a bad enallage.

And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.

As we cannot forgive sin.
Right! The fact is, though all Christians are to forgive one another, have a forgiving disposition Eph. 4:32, ultimately, only God can bestow absolute pardon. The Lord did not grant that right to the apostles or anyone else.

We should also consider this important point. The Greek tenses of John 20:23 make it clear that the apostles were authorized only to announce the terms of forgiveness on the basis of God’s previous appointment.

Literally, the text suggests:

“Those whose sins you forgive, have already been forgiven; those whose sins you do not forgive, have not already been forgiven.”
The first verbs in the two clauses are aorist tense forms, while the second verbs are in the perfect tense. The perfect tense verbs imply an abiding state which commenced before the action of the aorists.
 
It is if one has a deeper understanding of God's word. Your proof text does not shed any light on the validity of PSA.

You are using a bad enallage.

And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.

As we cannot forgive sin.
We cannot forgive the sins of mankind done against God = True

However, God commands us to forgive the sin that others have done against us.

Direct words of God = "Unless you forgive others debts(sins against you) neither will your FATHER in Heaven forgive you"

Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering; bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do. - Colossians 3:13
 
UPdate it a few more times. Who knows you may get it right.:ROFLMAO:
Perfection comes when practice makes Perfect

God wants you to keep reading His word and believing what HE says without your adding or taking away.

Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.

Proverbs 30:5-6

If you disregard His commandment you will sin and can easily be entrapped!
 
We cannot forgive the sins of mankind done against God = True

However, God commands us to forgive the sin that others have done against us.

Direct words of God = "Unless you forgive others debts(sins against you) neither will your FATHER in Heaven forgive you"

Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering; bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do. - Colossians 3:13
 
i AGREE with your Post #310 - Thank You
 
We cannot forgive the sins of mankind done against God = True

However, God commands us to forgive the sin that others have done against us.

Direct words of God = "Unless you forgive others debts(sins against you) neither will your FATHER in Heaven forgive you"

Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering; bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do. - Colossians 3:13
we forgive as God forgave us, God forgave them also as God paid their debt also.

we do not just forgive..
 
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