Which is it? 616 or 666?

Nope, but it's also wise to understand that, since God in His entirety is well outside our ability to comprehend, there will be "Mysteries".

SO how do you propose to define authoritatively which "number" is right???? "Experts" will swear to one or the other, and all you really have is "human opinion", and human "theology".
The whole context of Revelation pretty well confirms it. I understand why people will be hesitant to speculate based on various theories about Revelation though.
 
The whole context of Revelation pretty well confirms it. I understand why people will be hesitant to speculate based on various theories about Revelation though.
Would you like a better understanding of Revelation?

I posted a collection of references which develop the premise that it's based entirely on the old testament.


Start there.

Then.... read the old testament, repeatedly, so you can more fully understand the hope we have in Christ.

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Would you like a better understanding of Revelation?

I posted a collection of references which develop the premise that it's based entirely on the old testament.


Start there.

Then.... read the old testament, repeatedly, so you can more fully understand the hope we have in Christ.

😎
Thanks. Those cross references could be handy in some of the projects I have in work. I hope to have people working together. One project is showing how various events and signs are related across various passages. The goal is to show the sequence of events determined by passages working in parallel. Then if some event is shown to be completed, the events before it then also are completed.
 
You totally missed the point.
No. You need me to have missed the point so you can feel justified.

Either way the name is the same
Why would you want it to be different?
Rev 13:18 ABP
ώδε Here η σοφία εστίν is wisdom. ο The one έχων having τον the νουν mind ψηφισάτω tally τον the αριθμόν number του of the θηρίου beast; αριθμός [ 3 a number γαρ 1 for ανθρώπου 4 of a man εστί 2 it is], και and ο αριθμός αυτού his number is χ {600 ξ {60 ς {6

but if you ask my view it is 666
χ ξ ς

Looks pretty clear to me.
 
No. You need me to have missed the point so you can feel justified.


Why would you want it to be different?
Rev 13:18 ABP
ώδε Here η σοφία εστίν is wisdom. ο The one έχων having τον the νουν mind ψηφισάτω tally τον the αριθμόν number του of the θηρίου beast; αριθμός [ 3 a number γαρ 1 for ανθρώπου 4 of a man εστί 2 it is], και and ο αριθμός αυτού his number is χ {600 ξ {60 ς {6


χ ξ ς

Looks pretty clear to me.
No i have no such need. 616 0r 666 leads to the same personage depending on the language employed
 
No i have no such need.
apparently you do. Otherwise you wouldn't still be working so voraciously to convince me that you know something that no other people on earth know.


0r 666 leads to the same personage depending on the language employed
Rev 13:18 ABP ώδε Here η σοφία εστίν is wisdom. ο The one έχων having τον the νουν mind ψηφισάτω tally τον the αριθμόν number του of the θηρίου beast; αριθμός [ 3 a number γαρ 1 for ανθρώπου 4 of a man εστί 2 it is], και and ο αριθμός αυτού his number is χ {600 ξ {60 ς {6

χ ξ ς

Chi
Xi
Sigma
 
apparently you do. Otherwise you wouldn't still be working so voraciously to convince me that you know something that no other people on earth know.
Never stated any such thing and there are many who hold to the same eschatology and I quote from a well known source regarding 616 and 666

if you read outside your echo chamber, you would know that
 
That is funny as I was taught dispensational premillenialism but it was from scripture and reading outside an echo chamber that I came to reject it
So it's your echo chamber you're imposing on your opinions of my views.

Check your opinions of my views at the door.
 
So it's your echo chamber you're imposing on your opinions of my views.

Check your opinions of my views at the door.
Did you actually read

That is funny as I was taught dispensational premillenialism but it was from scripture and reading outside an echo chamber that I came to reject it

I have examined all viewpoints
 
Did you actually read

That is funny as I was taught dispensational premillenialism but it was from scripture and reading outside an echo chamber that I came to reject it
So, you threw the baby out with the bathwater.
Sounds like you've chosen foolishness.
I have examined all viewpoints
What makes you think I haven't?
What makes you think that the teachers I've provided reading materials for haven't examined all viewpoints?

Oh.... that's right.
Unless we choose foolishness like you, we couldn't possibly have learned any other viewpoints.
 
So, you threw the baby out with the bathwater.
Sounds like you've chosen foolishness.

What makes you think I haven't?
What makes you think that the teachers I've provided reading materials for haven't examined all viewpoints?

Oh.... that's right.
Unless we choose foolishness like you, we couldn't possibly have learned any other viewpoints.
The fact you cannot address my rebuttal

 
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