Amazing Writings in Scripture

[mikesw]

I have been reading material about God's wrath that brought me into Isaiah and Jeremiah and other prophets. Then it struck me how utterly amazing Isaiah is. In English, it has about 37,000 words (I count as 120 pages). The crazy aspect revolves around the extreme number of events he addresses and many themes repeated let alone the poetic elements. And maybe I'm missing something about some special organization of the book, but it is beyond my imagination how Isaiah could keep in mind the way he would write the whole book in logical order -- or just keep track of ideas.
An aspect of this tracking of ideas may also include the interaction with content of other prophets and earlier scriptures. This is not something I have looked into though. But I do see Daniel developing on points sometimes explicit about Babylon and of the nations following in the pride of Assyria, as found in Isaiah 10:12 which is the basis of the four empires in Daniel.
I would say Revelation is as complex but it largely follows the sequence in the vision shown to him. Isaiah starts with a vision but I have not checked if the whole book is a continuation of the initial vision.

Have others felt the same awe just about the human domain behind writing this, let alone God's wonderful revelation of events surrounding Israel?

 

[mikesw]

My point of the human domain mainly means the daunting task for a man involved in the intricate task of writing Isaiah, especially if people proposed it to be written without the inspiration of God. Maybe people can share of other books of the Bible expressing other awesome intricacies.

 

[Love Fountain]

And maybe I'm missing something about some special organization of the book, but it is beyond my imagination how Isaiah could keep in mind the way he would write the whole book in logical order -- or just keep track of ideas.
An aspect of this tracking of ideas may also include the interaction with content of other prophets and earlier scriptures. This is not something I have looked into though.

My point of the human domain mainly means the daunting task for a man involved in the intricate task of writing Isaiah, especially if people proposed it to be written without the inspiration of God. Maybe people can share of other books of the Bible expressing other awesome intricacies.

Hello mikesw,

It's important to ask ourselves, is the Bible the word of God?

There is no writing by men that comes even remotely close to the way the Bible is written!

God's way of writing appears throughout the whole Bible, here following is a great link that touches on the way God writes, check it out.

Correspondence - subject and subject matter structure

No man wrote Isaiah, here following is a subject structure outline of the whole book of Isaiah showing the chapters and verses along with the subject and subject matter. A and A, B and B, etc... shows the corresponding subjects. This way of writing appears throughout the whole Bible and is called Introversion because the subject introverts. There is also another way of writing called Alternation because the subject alternates. Check out the Correspondence link above to see Alternation and Introversion examples and a great explanation.

Here following is the whole book of Isaiah in subject outline structure.

Blessings,
Love Fountain

 

[mr.T]

I come to the Word of God with a tremendous sense of excitement and anticipation. I love to study the Bible, and learn about the authority of the Word of God. It makes me see the importance of Bible study. Also, I make a point from the very beginning to understand that the Scripture is the Word of God. It is not man’s opinion, it is not human philosophy, it is not somebody’s ideas, it is not a pooling of the best thoughts of the best men—it is the Word of God. Consequently, there are several things we need to realize about it.

Looking forward to see what will be posted here

 

[mikesw]

Hello mikesw,

It's important to ask ourselves, is the Bible the word of God?

There is no writing by men that comes even remotely close to the way the Bible is written!

God's way of writing appears throughout the whole Bible, here following is a great link that touches on the way God writes, check it out.

Correspondence - subject and subject matter structure

No man wrote Isaiah, here following is a subject structure outline of the whole book of Isaiah showing the chapters and verses along with the subject and subject matter. A and A, B and B, etc... shows the corresponding subjects. This way of writing appears throughout the whole Bible and is called Introversion because the subject introverts. There is also another way of writing called Alternation because the subject alternates. Check out the Correspondence link above to see Alternation and Introversion examples and a great explanation.

Here following is the whole book of Isaiah in subject outline structure.

Blessings,
Love Fountain



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It is still recognized that a man wrote the prophesies out and laid out the text. At the same time, we can recognize that the text is deeper than man could do on his own, that God inspires this. So, it remains amazing from every angle -- like every facet on a diamond.

 

[mikesw]

I come to the Word of God with a tremendous sense of excitement and anticipation. I love to study the Bible, and learn about the authority of the Word of God. It makes me see the importance of Bible study. Also, I make a point from the very beginning to understand that the Scripture is the Word of God. It is not man’s opinion, it is not human philosophy, it is not somebody’s ideas, it is not a pooling of the best thoughts of the best men—it is the Word of God. Consequently, there are several things we need to realize about it.

Looking forward to see what will be posted here

Indeed the excitement over God's scripture is what I also was looking forward to in this thread. It was a certain wow-moment that led me to start this topic.

 

[Grace ambassador]

Consequently, there are several things we need to realize about it.

Precious friend, seems you and I are both "on the same page"
About God's Wonderful Word Of Truth:

Handling The Word Of Life!​

Enjoy!

Amen.

 

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Indeed the excitement over God's scripture is what I also was looking forward to in this thread. It was a certain wow-moment that led me to start this topic.

'So shall My word be that goeth forth out of My mouth:
it shall not return unto Me void,
but it shall accomplish that which I please,
and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.'
(Isa 55:11)

Hi @mikesw,

I can identify with the "Wow!!" For it is the most exciting exhilarating book! The Holy Spirit is it's author, and in His hands it always accomplishes what He purposes in them that hear it. I love the way He uses figures of speech to make the reader stop and consider what is being said. I have a book which considers figures of speech found in Scripture, and it comprises two large volumes. Their use is skillfully done, with the intent that the word of God should be received and believed to the saving of the soul. I love the glimpse you get of God, Who speaks from heaven, in the prophetic books, and the power and might, the love and grace, the heart felt longing, and desire that is expressed through the words used, as well as His Holiness, Righteousness and compassion. It is awesome! The fact that He so loved the world of men, that He gave His only begotten Son to die, that whosoever believes in Him may receive everlasting life, in the light of what is observable of His character in the Scriptures, is not surprising.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[mikesw]

Hi @mikesw,

I can identify with the "Wow!!" For it is the most exciting exhilarating book! The Holy Spirit is it's author, and in His hands it always accomplishes what He purposes in them that hear it. I love the way He uses figures of speech to make the reader stop and consider what is being said. I have a book which considers figures of speech found in Scripture, and it comprises two large volumes. Their use is skillfully done, with the intent that the word of God should be received and believed to the saving of the soul. I love the glimpse you get of God, Who speaks from heaven, in the prophetic books, and the power and might, the love and grace, the heart felt longing, and desire that is expressed through the words used, as well as His Holiness, Righteousness and compassion. It is awesome!

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

what's the title of that? It could be interesting reference material or just for browsing.

 

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what's the title of that? It could be interesting reference material or just for browsing.

Hello @mikesw,

The title is, 'Figures of Speech used in The Bible' by Dr. E.W. Bullinger, and can be found in PDF format online too. as with so many reference books these days. I find these volumes such a blessing, I wouldn't be without them.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

'Figures of speech used in the Bible:' by Bullinger, E. W. (Ethelbert William), 1837-1913 - Page %CURPAGENUM% of %LASTPAGENUM%

 

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[Love Fountain]

It is still recognized that a man wrote the prophesies out and laid out the text. At the same time, we can recognize that the text is deeper than man could do on his own, that God inspires this. So, it remains amazing from every angle -- like every facet on a diamond.

Hello mikesw,

The is only ONE AUTHOR of the biblical text and that's no man!

Correspondence link



Blessings,
Love Fountain

 

[mikesw]

Hello mikesw,

The is only ONE AUTHOR of the biblical text and that's no man!

Correspondence link


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Blessings,
Love Fountain

Oops. You forgot that you posted this before.

I contrast Isaiah with Revelation since Revelation was primarily the recording of a vision. In any scripture writing, it is recognized that the skill of the writer is reflected in the writing. It is not as if Isaiah had no skills in poetry but suddenly this came to him. This does not deny the inspiration and direction of God guiding Isaiah. We can also admit there is a level of integration of interrelated ideas in scripture and of perfection of writing that goes beyond man's capability.

None of this denies the detail you have pointed out, though i have not tried to confirm or deny that structure being in Isaiah.

 

[Love Fountain]

Oops. You forgot that you posted this before.

I contrast Isaiah with Revelation since Revelation was primarily the recording of a vision. In any scripture writing, it is recognized that the skill of the writer is reflected in the writing. It is not as if Isaiah had no skills in poetry but suddenly this came to him. This does not deny the inspiration and direction of God guiding Isaiah. We can also admit there is a level of integration of interrelated ideas in scripture and of perfection of writing that goes beyond man's capability.

None of this denies the detail you have pointed out, though i have not tried to confirm or deny that structure being in Isaiah.

Hello mikesw,

THE WORD is the greatest work of Linguistic Science and Literary Science of all time that will hold up and prove true in a court of law to prove and establish there is ONE AUTHOR!

Wrongly applying the authorship to a scribe is textual corruption, it's completely false, a lie sent forth by the father of lies, but hey don't worry that false assertion is constantly being fed to the masses of ignorance which is prevalent and even seen on this forum daily. Oops has that been said before?

All over the place false teaching and poor scholarship is applying "many authors" to THE WORD, yet there is nothing ever written by any man throughout all time that compares or comes close!

Revelation means to "make known or reveal", the title is in the first line of the text, "The Revelation of Yeshua Messiah", the making known of YHVH Savior, the Anointed One!

He is the Alpha(Aleph) and Omega(Tav), King of kings and Lord of lords!

Vision is understanding, knowledge, making known, revealing the truth clearly through wisdom of THE WORD! "Eyes to see and ears to hear"

Isaiah, the Salvation of YHVH, is written to reveal or make known the "Final blessing under God's King"!

Whether we accept or deny Truth, it's still the Truth, the facts are the facts!

IN the name of Yeshua,
Love Fountain

 

[mikesw]

Hello mikesw,

THE WORD is the greatest work of Linguistic Science and Literary Science of all time that will hold up and prove true in a court of law to prove and establish there is ONE AUTHOR!

Wrongly applying the authorship to a scribe is textual corruption, it's completely false, a lie sent forth by the father of lies, but hey don't worry that false assertion is constantly being fed to the masses of ignorance which is prevalent and even seen on this forum daily. Oops has that been said before?

All over the place false teaching and poor scholarship is applying "many authors" to THE WORD, yet there is nothing ever written by any man throughout all time that compares or comes close!

Revelation means to "make known or reveal", the title is in the first line of the text, "The Revelation of Yeshua Messiah", the making known of YHVH Savior, the Anointed One!

He is the Alpha(Aleph) and Omega(Tav), King of kings and Lord of lords!

Vision is understanding, knowledge, making known, revealing the truth clearly through wisdom of THE WORD! "Eyes to see and ears to hear"

Isaiah, the Salvation of YHVH, is written to reveal or make known the "Final blessing under God's King"!

Whether we accept or deny Truth, it's still the Truth, the facts are the facts!

IN the name of Yeshua,
Love Fountain


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I do not ascribe authorship to scribes. Scribes only copied the writings after they were written -- if that makes sense.

The prophets wrote what they saw in visions or came to see from God's inspiration. This was not prophets who sat back blindly while being unaware what was being written on papyrus or whatever material. Each writing has a style unique to the prophet or author. Indeed, as you would not neglect, God's authorship is also reflected.
Also, I would hardly recommend that outline of Revelation to anyone. But the purpose of this thread is not on one's interpretation of Revelation but rather seeing the scripture as amazing and even recognizing how amazing Isaiah is.

 

[mikesw]

With some attention to Love Fountain's emphasis on God's authorship, it is helpful to recognize that God, through Moses' writing, uses Deut 32 to show the whole situation of the Israel tribes to their demise. In that passage, they are also told of the prophet, who in actuality also became known as the Messiah. The details of that original prophecy get reflected through the book of the prophets.

 

[Love Fountain]

I do not ascribe authorship to scribes. Scribes only copied the writings after they were written -- if that makes sense.

Hello mikesw,

A scribe is not merely a copyist, God speaks and they write down what God says! Anyone God speaks to that writes what God says is a scribe for God.

Here in Jeremiah is exactly how transcription of spoken language from God to written text works and the scribe Baruch, writes the words of the mind of God, not the words of the mind of Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 36:1-4
1, And it came to pass in the fourth year of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, that this word came unto Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
2, Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.
3, It may be that the house of Judah will hear all the evil which I purpose to do unto them; that they may return every man from his evil way; that I may forgive their iniquity and their sin.
4, Then Jeremiah called Baruch the son of Neriah: and Baruch wrote from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the LORD, which he had spoken unto him, upon a roll of a book.

The prophets wrote what they saw in visions or came to see from God's inspiration. This was not prophets who sat back blindly while being unaware what was being written on papyrus or whatever material. Each writing has a style unique to the prophet or author. Indeed, as you would not neglect, God's authorship is also reflected.

No mikesw, that's not how it works, prophets prophesy or share prophecy, when they write what God says, they are a scribe for God.

There are no multiple authors or styles applied to each scribe, the mind of the scribe is not the One Author of THE WORD!

God writes utilizing characters that we can understand to bring forth His Word and plan! The four gospels known by most as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are not the words and written styles of a tax collector, a servant/young boy, a doctor and a fisherman, they are the word of God in the style which God writes utilizing characters such as a tax collector to present Yeshua as our King, God utilizes the young servant boy to present Yeshua as His Servant, God utilizes a doctor to present Yeshua as the ideal Man of God, and God utilizes a fisherman to present Yeshua as God Himself.

A tax collector, young servant boy, doctor and fisherman don't write like the following, it's not "their style", they are written the way that God speaks and writes!

Also, I would hardly recommend that outline of Revelation to anyone. But the purpose of this thread is not on one's interpretation of Revelation but rather seeing the scripture as amazing and even recognizing how amazing Isaiah is.

The telescopic view of the whole book of The Revelation of Yeshua Messiah that was shared with you is the subjects of the text of what is written when looking at the book as whole and shows the seven visions within.

Of course you wouldn't share the Truth and subject outline that reveals God's writing style because you have no idea of God's writing styles let a lone what a mere scribe is.

Maybe you'll take the time to research and look into it further, maybe you won't?

Maybe you'll recognize how Yeshua speaks now when He says the following when correctly written how God speaks, the letters ABBA are for those who care to see the Correspondence click this link to see how God writes:

John 8:47

A | He that is of God
...B | heareth God's words
...B | ye therefore hear not,
A | because ye are not of God

May we hear God's words and recognize His styles of writing and speaking!

Blessings to whosoever will!

IN the name of Yeshua,
Love Fountain

 

[mikesw]

Hello mikesw,

A scribe is not merely a copyist, God speaks and they write down what God says! Anyone God speaks to that writes what God says is a scribe for God.

Here in Jeremiah is exactly how transcription of spoken language from God to written text works and the scribe Baruch, writes the words of the mind of God, not the words of the mind of Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 36:1-4
1, And it came to pass in the fourth year of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, that this word came unto Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
2, Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.
3, It may be that the house of Judah will hear all the evil which I purpose to do unto them; that they may return every man from his evil way; that I may forgive their iniquity and their sin.
4, Then Jeremiah called Baruch the son of Neriah: and Baruch wrote from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the LORD, which he had spoken unto him, upon a roll of a book.





No mikesw, that's not how it works, prophets prophesy or share prophecy, when they write what God says, they are a scribe for God.

There are no multiple authors or styles applied to each scribe, the mind of the scribe is not the One Author of THE WORD!

God writes utilizing characters that we can understand to bring forth His Word and plan! The four gospels known by most as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are not the words and written styles of a tax collector, a servant/young boy, a doctor and a fisherman, they are the word of God in the style which God writes utilizing characters such as a tax collector to present Yeshua as our King, God utilizes the young servant boy to present Yeshua as His Servant, God utilizes a doctor to present Yeshua as the ideal Man of God, and God utilizes a fisherman to present Yeshua as God Himself.

A tax collector, young servant boy, doctor and fisherman don't write like the following, it's not "their style", they are written the way that God speaks and writes!

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The telescopic view of the whole book of The Revelation of Yeshua Messiah that was shared with you is the subjects of the text of what is written when looking at the book as whole and shows the seven visions within.

Of course you wouldn't share the Truth and subject outline that reveals God's writing style because you have no idea of God's writing styles let a lone what a mere scribe is.

Maybe you'll take the time to research and look into it further, maybe you won't?

Maybe you'll recognize how Yeshua speaks now when He says the following when correctly written how God speaks, the letters ABBA are for those who care to see the Correspondence click this link to see how God writes:

John 8:47

A | He that is of God
...B | heareth God's words
...B | ye therefore hear not,
A | because ye are not of God

May we hear God's words and recognize His styles of writing and speaking!

Blessings to whosoever will!

IN the name of Yeshua,
Love Fountain

I can see how you view things. You do share some insights and there is some overlap of our concepts. I'll leave it at that.