Warnings by Reformers using ChatGPT

[Johann]

You clearly said it was from ChatGPT.

Perhaps ProDeo can help me out.

Yes, I use ChatGpt, much faster than Logos and Accordance, tailer-made for studying the Greek and Hebrew syntax. That said, I use all my secondary, exegetical sources for a deep dive into Scripture.

But Scripture should and must be the primary source, rightly cutting straight the word of God.

Utley is a wonderful source and should be in the toolbox of every person and hopefully will see it pinned down on this forum with the other sources.

J.

 

[Richard]

Yes, but it is it the good old God inspired KJV or those new demonic devil Bibles that remove verses from them?!!

That's where the Holy Spirit comes in. The Holy Spirit reminded the disciples of Jesus’ teachings and the details of the events in His life so as to record them in the gospels and explain them in the epistles.

 

[Quintus5]

Grok is much better. Test it. I have.

Sam Altman is an evil man. He is a thief and crook of epic proportions.

ChatGPT stole that explanation as if it were its own.
you say this, but your AI doesn't. Chat is grabbing from resources, that is exactly what it is supposed to do

BTW.... The Greek text simple says "like ones that turn up their noses". Nothing complicated at all. We all know someone like this...

No thanks. I don't do X. And I don't know why you would praise an AI and diss a different AI. And BTW, several scholars have discussed "turned up their noses" . It is perfectly fine to discuss. I wanted to know the origin. And that is fine.
Chat GPT did not steal that information I posted.. It didn’t steal anything.
It doesn’t “steal” or scrape content like a person might. It generate responses based on a mixture of patterns, training data, and input. It pulls resources and puts them together. As for the timeline:

ChatGPT
Released: November 30, 2022 (public launch of ChatGPT based on GPT-3.5)
Developer: OpenAI
Background: Built on years of research into large language models (GPT-1 in 2018 → GPT-2 in 2019 → GPT-3 in 2020 → GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 in 2022–2023).
Popularity: Exploded quickly — over 100 million users within months.

Grok
Announced: November 2023
Developer: xAI (Elon Musk’s company)
First released on: X (formerly Twitter), only for X Premium+ users
Style: More rebellious and sarcastic, designed to answer “spicy” or edgy questions

 

[Johann]

No thanks. I don't do X. And I don't know why you would praise an AI and diss a different AI. And BTW, several scholars have discussed "turned up their noses" . It is perfectly fine to discuss. I wanted to know the origin. And that is fine.
Chat GPT did not steal that information I posted.. It didn’t steal anything.
It doesn’t “steal” or scrape content like a person might. It generate responses based on a mixture of patterns, training data, and input. It pulls resources and puts them together. As for the timeline:

ChatGPT
Released: November 30, 2022 (public launch of ChatGPT based on GPT-3.5)
Developer: OpenAI
Background: Built on years of research into large language models (GPT-1 in 2018 → GPT-2 in 2019 → GPT-3 in 2020 → GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 in 2022–2023).
Popularity: Exploded quickly — over 100 million users within months.

Grok
Announced: November 2023
Developer: xAI (Elon Musk’s company)
First released on: X (formerly Twitter), only for X Premium+ users
Style: More rebellious and sarcastic, designed to answer “spicy” or edgy questions

This is a futile, draining convo @Quintus5.

J.

 

[Richard]

This is a futile, draining convo @Quintus5.

J.

If you like to use it, that's fine.

 

[ProDeo]

It largely consists of memory/cache and can easily access that memory/cache much faster than any single human being but when it comes to complexity, it really is an infant in understanding.

Well, Johann's output on Calvinism was mind blowing, the thing can REASON !

It's not perfect yet but that seems just a matter of time. Imagine a judge checking GTP for a (ahem) verdict.

My primary concern is that "AI" will become a single voice in this world. Everyone should fear this. The programmers will make sure that voice is heard and followed.

Absolutely, consider a hard and controversial topic here in the forum and someone saying :

ChatGTP proves you wrong [!]

Not a pleasant future.

 

[ProDeo]

You clearly said it was from ChatGPT.

Perhaps ProDeo can help me out.

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10658365-gpt-4-5-in-chatgpt

4.5 is the current best version, but it says :

GPT-4.5 does not include reasoning, as it was designed to be a more general-purpose, innately smarter model.

Seems they have some work to do.

 

[praise_yeshua]

No thanks. I don't do X.

Your loss. Not mine.

And I don't know why you would praise an AI and diss a different AI.

Easy. All AIs are different. They are programmed by different people. No one is coordinating with anyone.

And BTW, several scholars have discussed "turned up their noses" . It is perfectly fine to discuss. I wanted to know the origin. And that is fine.
Chat GPT did not steal that information I posted.. It didn’t steal anything.

The origin is Greek OT that came from a different stream of manuscripts than what you prefer. This "turning of the nose" is pure and utter nonsense. There is a simple solution. Just rightfully recognize it.

When YOU or an AI replaces a proper understanding with your lies, you're the owner of that lie.

It doesn’t “steal” or scrape content like a person might. It generate responses based on a mixture of patterns, training data, and input. It pulls resources and puts them together. As for the timeline:

It is largely a trained search engine that limits its responses based upon programming. It is just like the first two pages of a google search. Few people go past the first two pages of a google search. Google RANKS responses based upon programmed choices. Such is the same with any AI. Evil men like Sam Altman and his people are the ones that are the problem.

ChatGPT
Released: November 30, 2022 (public launch of ChatGPT based on GPT-3.5)
Developer: OpenAI
Background: Built on years of research into large language models (GPT-1 in 2018 → GPT-2 in 2019 → GPT-3 in 2020 → GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 in 2022–2023).
Popularity: Exploded quickly — over 100 million users within months.

Grok
Announced: November 2023
Developer: xAI (Elon Musk’s company)
First released on: X (formerly Twitter), only for X Premium+ users
Style: More rebellious and sarcastic, designed to answer “spicy” or edgy questions

ChatGPT is just like its programmers. At least with Grok, you'll get a broader response than with the limited responses you get from ChatGPT so you can make YOU OWN DECISIONS.....

Grok is free. It doesn't require "premium" services. The free account version just limits the bandwidth you get. BTW... so does ChatGPT....

Your preferences betray you.

I've seen several lies from you in just this single response.

You must be a real "piece of work". Edit What does Christ mean to you?

 

[praise_yeshua]

If you like to use it, that's fine.

Just sharing my thoughts like anyone else.

 

[praise_yeshua]

This is a futile, draining convo @Quintus5.

J.

You should change. I'm challenging you to change. Your choice. We can be different. Our choice.

 

[praise_yeshua]

This is a futile, draining convo @Quintus5.

J.

BTW. I have more experience than Grok, ChatGPT, Deepseek and etc. I know how to what to study and how to study. Don't be impressed with a repackaged search indexer.

 

[Quintus5]

Your loss. Not mine.



Easy. All AIs are different. They are programmed by different people. No one is coordinating with anyone.



The origin is Greek OT that came from a different stream of manuscripts than what you prefer. This "turning of the nose" is pure and utter nonsense. There is a simple solution. Just rightfully recognize it.

When YOU or an AI replaces a proper understanding with your lies, you're the owner of that lie.



It is largely a trained search engine that limits its responses based upon programming. It is just like the first two pages of a google search. Few people go past the first two pages of a google search. Google RANKS responses based upon programmed choices. Such is the same with any AI. Evil men like Sam Altman and his people are the ones that are the problem.



ChatGPT is just like its programmers. At least with Grok, you'll get a broader response than with the limited responses you get from ChatGPT so you can make YOU OWN DECISIONS.....

Grok is free. It doesn't require "premium" services. The free account version just limits the bandwidth you get. BTW... so does ChatGPT....

Your preferences betray you.

I've seen several lies from you in just this single response.

You must be a real "piece of work". Why are you claiming to be Christian? or are you even a Christian? What does Christ mean to you?

I cannot believe you are calling me a liar and questioning my christianity. I'm going to report this--if it does any good. It's ok to disagree with someone, but you dont call them liar and you dont question their Christianity. Wow dude

 

[praise_yeshua]

I cannot believe you are calling me a liar and questioning my christianity. I'm going to report this--if it does any good. It's ok to disagree with someone, but you dont call them liar and you dont question their Christianity. Wow dude

All liars shall have their part in the lake of fire. Do you remember where to find this?

So what does Christ mean to you? You can easily answer that question.

Gal 2:4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
Gal 2:5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

 

[Quintus5]

All liars shall have their part in the lake of fire. Do you remember where to find this?

So what does Christ mean to you? You can easily answer that question.

Jesus is my Saviour! I get all of this from you because I use ChatGPT'?

You sound like a very angry person. I have no clue where that is coming from. Why are you questioning my Christianity?










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[Dizerner]

Jesus is my Saviour! I get all of this from you because I use ChatGPT'?

There are some posters on here that are for lack of a better way of putting it, not all there.

I would just put them on ignore.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Jesus is my Saviour! I get all of this from you because I use ChatGPT'?

Use whatever you want. I have the right and responsibility to show that you're wrong. Rebuke a wise man and he will love you for it.

You showed what you think of X. X is a very valuable source of information today. I don't care if you like Musk or not. What I do care about it allowing alternate voices to exist in the narrative of life.

THAT is important and very necessary.

Be ready to tell every man of your hope in Christ. You don't know me. I don't know you. You challenged me on what I said. What I said is important to me. You're overacting. This "drama" didn't start with me.

 

[praise_yeshua]

There are some posters on here that are for lack of a better way of putting it, not all there.

I would just put them on ignore.

You haven't done that to me yet. Double minded.... comes to mind.

I'm sharpening you. It is good that I don't let you get away with the simple mistakes you make. You might not see it now but you will.

I make everyone mad at me at one time or another. It is inevitable. Truth is offensive.

 

[Dizerner]

You haven't done that to me yet. Double minded.... comes to mind.

Not everyone has the same degree of patience I do, lol.

Or maybe I'm a glutton for punishment, hopelessly overly optimistic, or just plain dumb.

But yea, it's tough when a person is not making sense anymore, it's hard to know exactly how to respond to that.

The one thing that always doesn't help—is to take it too seriously.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Not everyone has the same degree of patience I do, lol.

Or maybe I'm a glutton for punishment, hopelessly overly optimistic, or just plain dumb.

But yea, it's tough when a person is not making sense anymore, it's hard to know exactly how to respond to that.

The one thing that always doesn't help—is to take it too seriously.

Like pretending I'm actually questioning someone's faith by asking them about it?

Sure. I mentioned the extremes. Such is necessary. I don't assume anything. We battle evil in "high places". There is an overarching evil that exists in this life and many people don't realize they are nothing more than pawns in that evil struggle.

Just covering the "bases"......

I hope you realize that I like you. I do. You're better than most and I take what you say into consideration. That doesn't mean I'm going to give you any "slack" at all when I disagree with you....

 

[Dizerner]

I hope you realize that I like you. I do. You're better than most and I take what you say into consideration.

Just remember all liars have their place in the lake of fire.