Transmitting The Fallen Nature
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e v e
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this body IS sin nature
e v e
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they left God's nature and went to the enemy.
Bob Carabbio
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"Supposedly" without "having a sin nature" at all. They fell into sin when they let their lusts conceive. So obviously nothing "Changed" at all.
e v e
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they did not have a sin nature.
eden was invaded by the enemy who did though have a nature foreign to God's.
nature =
like here: as in a type of physicality and its systems.
a realm not belonging to God and warring with God attacked us
It's the same body Christ had
e v e
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If you mean His resurrection body no it is not.
e v e
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yes he took a Huge step down, for us, to incarnate in this abomination of flesh.
No his incarnation body
e v e
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He took a huge step down and incarnated in the flesh body, which is Sin. yes.
For us He did that. It is not the body of paradise which He had, and returned to after those esaus
murdered him.
So Christ had a sinful body?
Bob Carabbio
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FOOLISHNESS!! The human body isn't "Sin" - it's just a physical system to allows us to get around. James explains how "Temptation works, and it all starts with OUR STRONG DESIRES, The enemy, then "Entices us" until we allow our OWN LUST to conceive. WHat happens then is the "Birth" of SINFUL ACTIONS/Behaviours.
JESUS had the same Strong Personal Desires as we do (Heb 4:15), but He didn't let them "Conceive", and so remained without SIN.
e v e
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yes.
this realm is a foreign nature.
and he entered into it.
he came into this fallen matrix. it's not really the point about it being sinful except to show what a great sacrifice he made to come to us, here where we are, to get us out of here.
He was without sin even if this body is sin.
e v e
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the body here is a Foreign Nature...
those desires do not come from the soul but from the entity, i, carnal mind that now (often) guides souls since the fall.
Olde Tymer
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FAQ: Did Jesus' virgin conception isolate him from Adam?
REPLY: According to Ps 132:11, Acts 2:29-30, and Rom 1:3, Jesus was one of
David's biological grandsons. That being the case, then when the Word of John 1:1-3
came into the world as the flesh of John 1:14, he didn't come as divine flesh,
rather, he came as Jewish flesh.
● Rom 8:3 . . For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God
did: by sending His own son in the likeness of sinful flesh
POSIT: Jesus didn't have human blood because human blood is too impure to offer
for the sins of the world. Nope; he had God's blood.
REPLY: According to Lev 17:11, the life of the flesh is in the blood. Well then, in
order for Jesus to be David's bona fides paternal descendant, he had to have
human blood in his flesh due to the fact that his paternal ancestor David was
human.
One of the oldest creeds in the book states that Jesus is fully God and fully Man.
Well that creed would be grossly mistaken if something other than human life was
in Jesus' blood. Plus: on numerous occasions Jesus referred to himself as "son of
Man" which, likewise, would be patently false were human life not in his blood.
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FAQ: Did Jesus' virgin conception isolate him from Adam?
REPLY: According to Ps 132:11, Acts 2:29-30, and Rom 1:3, Jesus was one of
David's biological grandsons. That being the case, then when the Word of John 1:1-3
came into the world as the flesh of John 1:14, he didn't come as divine flesh,
rather, he came as Jewish flesh.
● Rom 8:3 . . For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God
did: by sending His own son in the likeness of sinful flesh
POSIT: Jesus didn't have human blood because human blood is too impure to offer
for the sins of the world. Nope; he had God's blood.
REPLY: According to Lev 17:11, the life of the flesh is in the blood. Well then, in
order for Jesus to be David's bona fides paternal descendant, he had to have
human blood in his flesh due to the fact that his paternal ancestor David was
human.
One of the oldest creeds in the book states that Jesus is fully God and fully Man.
Well that creed would be grossly mistaken if something other than human life was
in Jesus' blood. Plus: on numerous occasions Jesus referred to himself as "son of
Man" which, likewise, would be patently false were human life not in his blood.
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Oxymoron
Bob Carabbio
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Goodbye.
e v e
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why?
