Transmitting The Fallen Nature

[Behold]

There IS NO "Fallen nature" to be transmitted.

Actually the "adamic nature" is the fallen nature.

What is it?
Its the Devil's nature that became Adam's, once Adam bowed to the Devil, in rebellion, against God.

See, the eating of the apple = was open rebellion.......it was not just chewing on an apple core.
And once Adam CHOSE this, then he changed spiritual fathers, and this means the Devil's nature, that is the SIN NATURE, became Adam's.
= Became OURS., as we are all from Adam.

Notice that Jesus said...>"you are of YOUR FATHER..... the Devil".. "And the LUSTS (sin nature..Adamic nature) of YOUR FATHER, you will do".

This is why you LOVE TO SIN>.. .Reader, and until you are born again, you'll continue to love it.

So : = Adam FELL from God, and became Adamic, "fallen", and that is the same as LUCIFER, who FELL from heaven as "Lightning", Jesus said...."because iniquity was found IN HIM">, = sin nature.

Christ, came to die for our SIN, so that we can be joined again to the original Spiritual DADDY, who is God the Father.
This is to become "in Christ".. .as '""ONE with God"... exactly as Adam had it before he "fell".

This is what it means to be : "born again".
This is what it means to have become ........"A NEW Creation... in Christ".

And water baptism cant do that for you., Reader.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Actually the "adamic nature" is the fallen nature.

Actually just the HUMAN NATURE that Adam was created with, and we ALL have as human beings.

And water baptism cant do that for you., Reader.

True!!! "Water Baptism" is ONLY a testimonial ordinance which one who has been BORN AGAIN of the Holy Spirit should do in obedience to the Word.

 

[Dizerner]

Actually just the HUMAN NATURE that Adam was created with, and we ALL have as human beings.

What made you believe this?

 

[Behold]

Actually just the HUMAN NATURE that Adam was created with, and we ALL have as human beings.

There are a few "natures".

There is a Demonic
There is The Divine
There is the Adamic

See, when Lucifer chose to sin in Heaven, this happened inside Him, as "iniquity was found IN HIM"...

When Adam had not inwardly tasted the rebellion yet, he was not an "Adamic nature".. yet.. .as he was still joined to God, and had God's Divine nature.
He FELL from this, when he decided... to commit to the rebellion., as that was a HEART issue, that happened before he took a bite of the Apple.
So, He went from "Spiritual Union" with God, to = "fallen adamic nature" that is the same as is found inside His new Spiritual Father.

WE, are all born with that same Adamic sin nature, that is the opposite of God's Divine Nature, and... when we are born again, we become partakers of the Divine Nature, that Adam lost when He fell. = rebelled... = Bowed His knee to the DEVIL.

Notice.. 2 Peter 1:4

""""""by which GOD has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become gpartakers of the DIVINE NATURE."""""
And the reason we dont have it until we are born again,........ is because we have the "Adamic Nature" or the Fallen nature.
This is the "sin Nature".
This is the Devil's nature.

True!!! "Water Baptism" is ONLY a testimonial ordinance which one who has been BORN AGAIN of the Holy Spirit should do in obedience to the Word.

Yes, its mostly a public confession of our union with God through Christ, whereby we are WATER DUNKED as the old man, in death (symbolically) and come up out of the old man, = out of the water as (symbolically) the New Man, the New Creation.

If a person is taught that the "water has washed away your sin" then they are being lied to by a WATER CULT.
And you can find this twisted understanding in a verse that is inside a Satanic Bible that says.....in John 3...>""""Born again... BY water""".

See that "BY water"?

Well, noone is born again BY Water...........we are born again = by the HOLY SPIRIT. Yet about 2 Billion people on this earth, right now, believe that water has washed away their sin, and in fact, it can't, and it didn't.
But they are taught that it DID.
And when they die ....(some of them, as some eventually become born again).. and those that didnt but were trusting in water.... find themselves in Hell, having BELIEVED that water made them Clean, = then all they can do is nothing about it, as you can't be born again in Hell.

 

[Dizerner]

And you can find this twisted understanding in a verse that is inside a Satanic Bible that says.....in John 3...>""""Born again... BY water""".

What Bible says that?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

What made you believe this?

Jesus had a NATURE that could be TEMPTED AS WE ARE. Did He have a "Sin Nature"???? Or is there really nothing other than a HUMAN NATURE???

 

[Dizerner]

Jesus had a NATURE that could be TEMPTED AS WE ARE. Did He have a "Sin Nature"???? Or is there really nothing other than a HUMAN NATURE???

So this logic convinced you?

Did someone introduce you to this logic?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

So this logic convinced you?

Did someone introduce you to this logic?

It's right in the Bible for everyone to see.

 

[Dizerner]

It's right in the Bible for everyone to see.

I don't see it.

Did someone tell you it was there?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

I don't see it.

Did someone tell you it was there?

Heb 4:15

 

[Dizerner]

Heb 4:15

It doesn't say what you claim it says.

So you were just reading Hebrews 4:15 one day and realized that in your flesh dwells all good things?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

It doesn't say what you claim it says.

So you were just reading Hebrews 4:15 one day and realized that in your flesh dwells all good things?

Actually it does.

 

[Dizerner]

Actually it does.

No, it doesn't. It gives a qualification, apart from sin, and that ruins your whole logic.

If Jesus were identical to us, then he would have to experience every physical and emotional quality every human every experienced.

But he didn't; so "actually" something has deceived you somewhere.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

No, it doesn't. It gives a qualification, apart from sin, and that ruins your whole logic.

If Jesus were identical to us, then he would have to experience every physical and emotional quality every human every experienced.

But he didn't; so "actually" something has deceived you somewhere.

Chuckle!!

 

[Dizerner]

Chuckle!!

Chuckle your way to the Judgment Seat of Christ, my friend.

I would take it more seriously, myself.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

I would take it more seriously, myself.

WHy??? It's nothing but "Theology" after all. ALL God's chilluns gots "Theologies".

 

[Frank Russell]

The funny thing about the term "sin nature" is that sin is unnatural. God did not create it.

 

[civic]

The funny thing about the term "sin nature" is that sin is unnatural. God did not create it.

Some like Calvin and Augustine taught God created evil and sin. It’s heresy

 

[Bob Carabbio]

The funny thing about the term "sin nature" is that sin is unnatural. God did not create it.

Personally, I was perfectly capable of Sinning according to James 1.

 

[Frank Russell]

Some like Calvin and Augustine taught God created evil and sin. It’s heresy

Well, it's gone a bit further than that, sin has become an immortal being that the church worships and cannot stop talking about.

One issue with the eternal torment doctrine is not the scripture references .. it is that it makes sin eternal in nature .. as if it were a god.

Like the question: is there a rock that God can't lift? Is there a sin that God cannot purify?

Yet, God is faithful and will cleanse us of unrighteousness. In terms of confession, but also when all is exposed.