Total Genesis

[koberstein]

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Hello;

Genesis is a one of those things that are called "foundational". What that means is
there's some pretty serious ground work laid in this book and a poor knowledge of
it will handicap one's understanding of the rest of the Bible; most especially the
New Testament portion.

Some really cool stuff is in Genesis: the origin of the cosmos, the origin of human
life, Adam and Eve, the origin of marriage, the Devil, the first lie, the so-called
original sin, the origin of human death, the origin of clothing, the first baby, Cain
and Abel, the first murder, the Flood, the tower of Babel, and the origin of the Jews.

Big-name celebrities like Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac and Ishmael, Rebecca,
Jacob and Esau, and Joseph are here too.

Not here are Moses vs. Pharaoh and the parting of the Red Sea. That story is in
Exodus; Samson and Delilah are in Judges, David and Goliath are in 1Samuel; and
Ruth and Esther are in books of the Bible named after them.

The author of Genesis is currently unknown; but commonly attributed to Moses.
Seeing as he penned Exodus (Mark 12:26) it's conceivable that Moses also penned
Genesis; but in reality, nobody really knows for sure. Genesis may in fact be the
result of several contributors beginning as far back as Abel, the earliest of the
Bible's prophets (Luke 11:50-51)
B'RESHEET
Scholars have estimated the date of its writing at around 1450-1410 BC; a mere
+/- 3,400 years ago, which is pretty recent in the grand scheme of Earth's
geological history.

Genesis is quoted more than sixty times in the New Testament; and Christ
authenticated its Divine inspiration by referring to it in his own teachings. (e.g. Matt
19:4-6, Matt 24:37-39, Mk 10:4-9, Luke 11:49-51, Luke 17:26-29 & 32, John
7:21-23, John 8:44 and John 8:56)

Buen Camino
(Pleasant Journey)
B'RESHEET (GENESIS) 5784 IS THE CURRENT YEAR ON THE HEBREW CALENDAR. THIS MEANS THAT IT HAS BEEN 5784 YEARS SINCE CREATION.

SHALOM

 

[koberstein]

Interesting fact about "Genesis" I don't think most people realize. When you use the English word "Genesis" in reference, you are actually witnessing to a Greek source. The Hebrew/English word for the same writing is "Beresheet".

The same is true of various English "Biblical" references. Many of them come to English directly from Greek. Not Hebrew. Which itself denotes the influence of the Greek OT.

The Tanakh was written in Hebrew.

 

[koberstein]

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● Gen 1:10 . . And God called the dry ground Land; and the gathering together of
the waters He called Seas: and God saw that it was good.

"good" meaning not that the land and seas are morally acceptable, but rather,
perfectly suitable for the purposes that God had in mind for them.

● Gen 1:11a . . Then God said: Let the land produce vegetation

The land at this point was likely solid rock; which would require some changes to its
chemistry if it was to sustain a large variety of plant life.

Soil formation is a very slow process, sometimes taking as long as a millennium to
make just one inch; which at first would consist of little more than powdered rock.
In order for soil to become really productive, it needs organic material mixed with
it. So it's my guess that the very first vegetation that God created were species that
thrive on stone, and little by little their remains would amend the powder to
increase its fertility.

Some of the lyrics of one of AC/DC's songs says: "It's a long way to the top if you
wanna rock 'n roll". Well, it was an even longer ways to the soil from which human
life was eventually brought into viable existence.

The Hebrew word for "produce" appears in only two places in the entire Old
Testament; here and Joel 2:22. It basically means to sprout. Here and in Joel, it
refers to species of plants where none of their kind previously existed.

The variety of Earth's vegetation is boggling. It's estimated between 250,000 to
315,000 species-- that's the plants we know of but doesn't include the ones that
may have existed in the past prior to catastrophic weather conditions and extinction
events.

● Gen 1:11b-12 . . seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with
seed in it, according to their various kinds. And it was so. The land produced
vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with
seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

According to Gen 2:4-5, the land's vegetation was dormant in the beginning; it
didn't actually flourish until the atmosphere began producing moisture.

NOTE: It's believed by science that there was an era in Earth's youth called the
Carboniferous period when it was blanketed by dense jungles and forests. As those
plants and trees died, and were buried beneath layers of sediment; their unique
chemical structure caused them to be "cooked" into solid coal; and there is really a
lot of it.

Why isn't the Earth currently blanketed by dense jungles and forests? Well; the
earth's conditions today cannot produce enough humidity, nor enough rain, nor
enough global warming to sustain the kinds of heavy vegetation that once existed
in the Carboniferous era. In other words: the Earth, over time, has managed to
give itself a remarkable make-over; and at least one element of its make-over are
the mountains.

The ranges now in existence; e.g. the Andes, the Himalayas, the Rockies, the Urals,
the Appalachians, the Cascades, the Brooks Range, the Alps, etc; and the various
minor inland and coastal ranges weren't always in place where they are now. Those
were shoved up over time by the forces of tectonic subduction, volcanism, and
magma pressure. Even Yosemite's massive granite monoliths haven't always been
there. They were formed deep underground and then somehow pushed up to where
they are now.

Anyway, point being; those ranges have a very great deal to do with the Earth's
current weather systems.

● Gen 1:13 . . And there was evening and there was morning, a third day.
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Do you know why Jewish couples get married on Tuesday?

 

[praise_yeshua]

The Tanakh was written in Hebrew.

What Hebrew? That language hasn't survived. It is part of a Semitic source that is lost entirety to history. The extant Greek OT is the best source today.
Do you use the English word Genesis or Bereshit?

Genesis is from a distinctly Greek source.

 

[koberstein]

What Hebrew? That language hasn't survived. It is part of a Semitic source that is lost entirety to history. The extant Greek OT is the best source today.
Do you use the English word Genesis or Bereshit?

Genesis is from a distinctly Greek source.

The correct spelling is B'resheet. I can assure you modern Hebrew is still spoken and written in this day and age.
The ancient sages and Rabbi's were fluent in biblical Hebrew and Aramaic. Genesis is not from a Greek source. The Bible was written by Jews, about Jews, initially for Jews in the Jewish land of Israel.

 

[koberstein]

What Hebrew? That language hasn't survived. It is part of a Semitic source that is lost entirety to history. The extant Greek OT is the best source today.
Do you use the English word Genesis or Bereshit?

Genesis is from a distinctly Greek source.

Except for the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are more than 2000 years old, the oldest extant Hebrew and Aramaic manuscripts of the Tanakh ( Old Testament) date back to the ninth and eleventh centuries C.E. The Tanakh was written originally with only consonants, and thus the Torah scrolls read today in the synagogue contain only consonants.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Except for the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are more than 2000 years old, the oldest extant Hebrew and Aramaic manuscripts of the Tanakh ( Old Testament) date back to the ninth and eleventh centuries C.E. The Tanakh was written originally with only consonants, and thus the Torah scrolls read today in the synagogue contain only consonants.

Not true. The OT was written thousands of years before the DSS. We know that ancient Hebrew is distinctly different than the "Hebrew" of the DSS. There are very few Aramiac DSS in comparison to LXX readings..

Would you ever claim that old Germanic English is identical to Modern English? No. You wouldn't. The same is true of Biblical English. On the contrary, Greek is one of the most stable consistent languages that has ever existed among humanity.

 

[koberstein]

Not true. The OT was written thousands of years before the DSS. We know that ancient Hebrew is distinctly different than the "Hebrew" of the DSS. There are very few Aramiac DSS in comparison to LXX readings..

Would you ever claim that old Germanic English is identical to Modern English? No. You wouldn't. The same is true of Biblical English. On the contrary, Greek is one of the most stable consistent languages that has ever existed among humanity.

Not true. You are severely misguided on your facts.

 

[praise_yeshua]

The correct spelling is B'resheet. I can assure you modern Hebrew is still spoken and written in this day and age.
The ancient sages and Rabbi's were fluent in biblical Hebrew and Aramaic. Genesis is not from a Greek source. The Bible was written by Jews, about Jews, initially for Jews in the Jewish land of Israel.

Not true at all.

I don't need assurances from you. You are not my teacher. I know the subject/evidence well. You're wrong.
Name an "ancient Rabbi" and provide his original commentary. Go for it....All you have are ancient traditions filled with lies. Your Rabbinical commentary is no later the 3rd and 4th century and varies significantly between sources.

The Bible was written by Greek Jews..Even Jospehsus learned and published in Greek. The English word Genesis is distinctly Greek. Not Hebrew. Why are even trying to deny this? You're using a Greek source to denote the first book of the Torah. It must hurt for you to do that..

 

[praise_yeshua]

Not true. You are severely misguided on your facts.

Prove me wrong. I know the evidence. You're just repeating others. Provide the original Hebrew Talmud. There are several reputable sources for the DSS on the Internet. Defend your position. Man has endlessly abandoned God throughout his history. This fact destroyed Israel impeccable reputation. You're pretending that the Hebrew people have never been notorious sinners. Good news. Jesus Christ can introduce Himself personally to you. Forget what your ancestors taught you about traditions.

 

[koberstein]

Not true at all.

I don't need assurances from you. You are not my teacher. I know the subject/evidence well. You're wrong.
Name an "ancient Rabbi" and provide his original commentary. Go for it....All you have are ancient traditions filled with lies. Your Rabbinical commentary is no later the 3rd and 4th century and varies significantly between sources.

The Bible was written by Greek Jews..Even Jospehsus learned and published in Greek. English word Genesis is distinctly Greek. Not Hebrew. Whyte are even trying to deny this? You're using a Greek source to denote the first book of the Torah. It must hurt for you to do that..

edited . It's people like you that I detest for spreading mis-information and disinformation about Jewish History. The Messianic Hebrew Jewish apostles wrote the Brit Hadashah to instruct gentiles like you. I suppose you think Mary was calling the name Jesus when he was a little boy? No his name was Yeshua a Hebrew/Aramaic name. Yeshua spoke Aramaic. While your English Bible may say the English word Genesis mine says the Hebrew word B'resheet. There's no Greek source for the Tanakh. I suppose you think tithing is required in churches today?
Tithing is not required. Tithing went away when the 2nd Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Tithing was used to support the Levitical priesthood and since there is no Temple, then there is no Levitical priesthood to support.
I do believe in helping widows and orphans as outlined in the Brit Hadashah. You maybe able to BS your Christian friends with your false rhetoric but you can't fool me.

Shammai (50 B.C.E - 30)
Rabbi Shimon ben Gamli'el (10 - 70 C.E.)
Rabbi Akiva ben Joseph (17 - 137 C.E.)
Rabbi Simeon ben Lakish (circa 200 C.E.)
"Ribaz" Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakkai (30 - 90 C.E.)
Onkelos, Aquila of Pontus/Aquila of Sinope (35 - 100 C.E.)
Eliezar the Great, Rabbi Eliezar HaKappar the Great (45 - 117 C.E.)
Rabbi Tarfon (70 - 150 C.E.)
Rabbi Ishmael ben Elisha (90 - 135 C.E.)
Hillel the Elder (110 B.C.E. - 10 C.E.)
Rabbi Nehemiah/Nechemyah (circa 150 C.E.)
Rabbi Yose ben Halafta/Position of Sepphoris (1 - 2 century C.E.)
Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai ( 2nd century C.E.)
Rabbi Simeon ben Zoma (2nd century C.E.)
Rabbi Yonatan (2nd century C.E.)
Rabbi Nehorai (2nd century C.E.)
Rabbi Natan (2nd centurAngelo's,
Rabbi Y'hudah bar/ben Ezekiel (220 - 299 C.E.)
Rabbi Chamina bar Chana/Kahana (2nd - 3rd centuries C.E.)
Rabbi Yosef ben Hiyra (290 - 320 C.E.)
Rabbi Haggai/Chaggai (290 - 350 C.E.)
Rabbi Simlai (3rd century C.E.)
Rabbi Abba Bar Kahana (3rd century C.E.)
Rabbi Y'hoshua ben Levi (3rd century C.E.)
Rabbi Shlomo Yitzhaki (1040 - 1105 C.E.)
Rabbi Abraham Ben Meir Ibn Ezra (1089 - 1167 C.E.)
Rabbi David Kimchi (1160 - 1235 C.E.)
Rabbi Moshe ben Nahman Girondi, Bonastruc ca (de) Porta (1194 - 1270 C.E.)
"Rambam" Maimonides (1135 - 1204 C.E.)
Rabbi Levi ben Gershon (1288 - 1344 C.E.)
Rabbi David ben Amram Adani of Aden (13 century C.E.)
Rabbi Jonah ben Avraham Gerondi (1200 - 1263 C.E.)
Rabbi Judah Leow ben Bezalel (1520 - 1609 C.E.)
Rabbi Yonatan ben Yoseph (17th - 18th centuries C.E.)
Rabbi Samson/Shimshon Raphael Hirsch (1808 - 1888 C.E.)
Rabbi Meir Leibush ben Yehiel Michel Wisser (1809 - 1879 C.E.)
Rabbi Naftali Zvi Yehuda Berlin (1816 - 1893 C.E.)
Rabbi Asher Zvi Hirsch (1856 - 1927 C.E.)
Rabbi Joseph Herman Hertz (1872 - 1946 C.E.)
Dr Rabbi Israel Wolf Slotki (1884 - 1973 C.E.)
Dr Rabbi Avraham Cohen (1887 - 1957 C.E.)
Rabbi Joshua Heschel (1907 - 1972 C.E.)

The trouble with people today is that they view the Bible through western eyes and not through the Jewish lenses as it was written.

 

[koberstein]

Prove me wrong. I know the evidence. You're just repeating others. Provide the original Hebrew Talmud. There are several reputable sources for the DSS on the Internet. Defend your position. Man has endlessly abandoned God throughout his history. This fact destroyed Israel impeccable reputation. You're pretending that the Hebrew people have never been notorious sinners. Good news. Jesus Christ can introduce Himself personally to you. Forget what your ancestors taught you about traditions.

 

[koberstein]

Prove me wrong. I know the evidence. You're just repeating others. Provide the original Hebrew Talmud. There are several reputable sources for the DSS on the Internet. Defend your position. Man has endlessly abandoned God throughout his history. This fact destroyed Israel impeccable reputation. You're pretending that the Hebrew people have never been notorious sinners. Good news. Jesus Christ can introduce Himself personally to you. Forget what your ancestors taught you about traditions.

I don't need to prove anything and you obviously don't know any evidence.

Not true at all.

I don't need assurances from you. You are not my teacher. I know the subject/evidence well. You're wrong.
Name an "ancient Rabbi" and provide his original commentary. Go for it....All you have are ancient traditions filled with lies. Your Rabbinical commentary is no later the 3rd and 4th century and varies significantly between sources.

The Bible was written by Greek Jews..Even Jospehsus learned and published in Greek. The English word Genesis is distinctly Greek. Not Hebrew. Why are even trying to deny this? You're using a Greek source to denote the first book of the Torah. It must hurt for you to do that..

Prove me wrong. I know the evidence. You're just repeating others. Provide the original Hebrew Talmud. There are several reputable sources for the DSS on the Internet. Defend your position. Man has endlessly abandoned God throughout his history. This fact destroyed Israel impeccable reputation. You're pretending that the Hebrew people have never been notorious sinners. Good news. Jesus Christ can introduce Himself personally to you. Forget what your ancestors taught you about traditions.

Not true at all.

I don't need assurances from you. You are not my teacher. I know the subject/evidence well. You're wrong.
Name an "ancient Rabbi" and provide his original commentary. Go for it....All you have are ancient traditions filled with lies. Your Rabbinical commentary is no later the 3rd and 4th century and varies significantly between sources.

The Bible was written by Greek Jews..Even Jospehsus learned and published in Greek. The English word Genesis is distinctly Greek. Not Hebrew. Why are even trying to deny this? You're using a Greek source to denote the first book of the Torah. It must hurt for you to do that..

You don't know anything. You are the one that needs to be introduced to the Messiah Hamashiach. Traditions won't save you. Only the blood of Yeshua.
Besides if Greek is such a great language why do so few people speak it?
Below is the Talmud references. Knock yourself out.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I don't know if you are just .plain stupid or ignorant or just uneducated.

I was clear in what I stated. What I stated was true. Who cares what you think of me. It is obvious that you think highly of your vain traditions.

Who knows maybe your antisemitic.

No. I just rightfully believe that those who claim they are Jews are notorious sinners. Just as bad or worse than any other human being on this planet. It is obvious that you believe you're better than all those "other sinners" out there. You're not.

It's people like you that I detest for spreading mis-information and disinformation about Jewish History. The Messianic Hebrew Jewish apostles wrote the Brit Hadashah to instruct gentiles like you.

I'm an descendent of Jesus Christ. I'm not your slave. You can "detest" whatever you like. I show you that you're wrong.

I suppose you think Mary was calling the name Jesus when he was a little boy? No his name was Yeshua a Hebrew/Aramaic name. Yeshua spoke Aramaic.

No. I don't. See my handle. Do you see "Yeshua" at the end of "praise"? Pay attention. Jesus is English. Yeshua is name relative to human language. Messiah has a name that no one knows. Maybe you should read the "Brit Hadashah" more. Do you teach others or do you teach yourself?

Pay attention to Hitgallut 19:12.

When Jews name something, they "think" they own it. You don't. It has nothing to do with you. It is the possession of Yeshua.

While your English Bible may say the English word Genesis mine says the Hebrew word B'resheet. There's no Greek source for the Tanakh. I suppose you think tithing is required in churches today?

So you're a Gentile claiming privileges that others do not have. Surprise. No. My father-in-law punched in the face by when I was a young man for telling him otherwise. This nothing new for me. The storehouse is gone. Your storehouse was destroyed by God Himself. There is nowhere to gather the monies.

Tithing is not required. Tithing went away when the 2nd Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Tithing was used to support the Levitical priesthood and since there is no Temple, then there is no Levitical priesthood to support.

Only partially right. The tithe was used for more than just the Levitical priesthood. It became a national tax wherein it was abused and manipulated to the benefit of sinful men.

I do believe in helping widows and orphans as outlined in the Brit Hadashah. You maybe able to BS your Christian friends with your false rhetoric but you can't fool me.

You're making too many assumptions.

Shammai (50 B.C.E - 30)
Rabbi Shimon ben Gamli'el (10 - 70 C.E.)
Rabbi Akiva ben Joseph (17 - 137 C.E.)
Rabbi Simeon ben Lakish (circa 200 C.E.)
"Ribaz" Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakkai (30 - 90 C.E.)
Onkelos, Aquila of Pontus/Aquila of Sinope (35 - 100 C.E.)
Eliezar the Great, Rabbi Eliezar HaKappar the Great (45 - 117 C.E.)
Rabbi Tarfon (70 - 150 C.E.)
Rabbi Ishmael ben Elisha (90 - 135 C.E.)
Hillel the Elder (110 B.C.E. - 10 C.E.)
Rabbi Nehemiah/Nechemyah (circa 150 C.E.)
Rabbi Yose ben Halafta/Position of Sepphoris (1 - 2 century C.E.)
Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai ( 2nd century C.E.)
Rabbi Simeon ben Zoma (2nd century C.E.)
Rabbi Yonatan (2nd century C.E.)
Rabbi Nehorai (2nd century C.E.)
Rabbi Natan (2nd centurAngelo's,
Rabbi Y'hudah bar/ben Ezekiel (220 - 299 C.E.)
Rabbi Chamina bar Chana/Kahana (2nd - 3rd centuries C.E.)
Rabbi Yosef ben Hiyra (290 - 320 C.E.)
Rabbi Haggai/Chaggai (290 - 350 C.E.)
Rabbi Simlai (3rd century C.E.)
Rabbi Abba Bar Kahana (3rd century C.E.)
Rabbi Y'hoshua ben Levi (3rd century C.E.)
Rabbi Shlomo Yitzhaki (1040 - 1105 C.E.)
Rabbi Abraham Ben Meir Ibn Ezra (1089 - 1167 C.E.)
Rabbi David Kimchi (1160 - 1235 C.E.)
Rabbi Moshe ben Nahman Girondi, Bonastruc ca (de) Porta (1194 - 1270 C.E.)
"Rambam" Maimonides (1135 - 1204 C.E.)
Rabbi Levi ben Gershon (1288 - 1344 C.E.)
Rabbi David ben Amram Adani of Aden (13 century C.E.)
Rabbi Jonah ben Avraham Gerondi (1200 - 1263 C.E.)
Rabbi Judah Leow ben Bezalel (1520 - 1609 C.E.)
Rabbi Yonatan ben Yoseph (17th - 18th centuries C.E.)
Rabbi Samson/Shimshon Raphael Hirsch (1808 - 1888 C.E.)
Rabbi Meir Leibush ben Yehiel Michel Wisser (1809 - 1879 C.E.)
Rabbi Naftali Zvi Yehuda Berlin (1816 - 1893 C.E.)
Rabbi Asher Zvi Hirsch (1856 - 1927 C.E.)
Rabbi Joseph Herman Hertz (1872 - 1946 C.E.)
Dr Rabbi Israel Wolf Slotki (1884 - 1973 C.E.)
Dr Rabbi Avraham Cohen (1887 - 1957 C.E.)
Rabbi Joshua Heschel (1907 - 1972 C.E.)

The trouble with people today is that they view the Bible through western eyes and not through the Jewish lenses as it was written.

You're obviously a westerner yourself. Hypocrisy is common among this who claim Messianic Judaism.

Do you have an original copy of the words of Shammai? I'm not asking for appeals to ambiguous secondary sources. You must be privileged to own such a treasure of history. Please share.

 

[praise_yeshua]

The correct spelling is B'resheet. I can assure you modern Hebrew is still spoken and written in this day and age.

Nonsense. All you have is a reconstructed language that the uneducated claim is "Hebrew". Block script "Hebrew" is nothing more than a sinful peoples attempt to remain relative.

The ancient sages and Rabbi's were fluent in biblical Hebrew and Aramaic. Genesis is not from a Greek source. The Bible was written by Jews, about Jews, initially for Jews in the Jewish land of Israel.

Like these "scribes".... ?

Mat 23:13 “But woe to you, experts in the law and you Pharisees, hypocrites! You keep locking people out of the kingdom of heaven! For you neither enter nor permit those trying to enter to go in.

Lawyers.... are such wonderful people......

All men are sinners. Jesus Christ is above all. He is the only One that matters. Act like you believe this.

 

[praise_yeshua]

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Moses did not write those words. Are you kidding? You could even read the words that Moses wrote. No one can. Ancient archeologist can barely recognize the name of God in ancient Semitic languages....

 

[praise_yeshua]

I don't need to prove anything and you obviously don't know any evidence.



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You don't know anything. You are the one that needs to be introduced to the Messiah Hamashiach. Traditions won't save you. Only the blood of Yeshua.
Besides if Greek is such a great language why do so few people speak it?
Below is the Talmud references. Knock yourself out.

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When what you edition of choice printed and how in the world does that equal anything from the time of Moses?

Many many people still speak Greek and you're not speaking Biblical Hebrew.

 

[koberstein]

I was clear in what I stated. What I stated was true. Who cares what you think of me. It is obvious that you think highly of your vain traditions.



No. I just rightfully believe that those who claim they are Jews are notorious sinners. Just as bad or worse than any other human being on this planet. It is obvious that you believe you're better than all those "other sinners" out there. You're not.



I'm an descendent of Jesus Christ. I'm not your slave. You can "detest" whatever you like. I show you that you're wrong.



No. I don't. See my handle. Do you see "Yeshua" at the end of "praise"? Pay attention. Jesus is English. Yeshua is name relative to human language. Messiah has a name that no one knows. Maybe you should read the "Brit Hadashah" more. Do you teach others or do you teach yourself?

Pay attention to Hitgallut 19:12.

When Jews name something, they "think" they own it. You don't. It has nothing to do with you. It is the possession of Yeshua.



So you're a Gentile claiming privileges that others do not have. Surprise. No. My father-in-law punched in the face by when I was a young man for telling him otherwise. This nothing new for me. The storehouse is gone. Your storehouse was destroyed by God Himself. There is nowhere to gather the monies.



Only partially right. The tithe was used for more than just the Levitical priesthood. It became a national tax wherein it was abused and manipulated to the benefit of sinful men.



You're making too many assumptions.



You're obviously a westerner yourself. Hypocrisy is common among this who claim Messianic Judaism.

Do you have an original copy of the words of Shammai? I'm not asking for appeals to ambiguous secondary sources. You must be privileged to own such a treasure of history. Please share.

Why would I stoop to your level to share anything. I'm sure you can edited get it on the Internet. The Jewish people are still the apple of Adonai's eye.
I suppose you are one of these heretics that believes in replacement theology?
The Jewish people are the same sinners as you. No difference. edited Since you are unteachable, arrogant, conceited why would I waste my time with you. It's you that gives Christianity a bad name with false teaching and false allegations. Maybe it bothers you that you are not part of the chosen Jewish people. I hope for your sake you are "grafted" into the Messianic Tree. Maybe it bothers you that the Jews control 70% of Wall Street Banking and Investment. Maybe it bothers you that the Jews make up less than 2% of the world population, but since 1900, 24% of the Nobel Prize winners were Jewish.
You need to get over yourself and stop being antisemitic. What's interesting is when you sinful wealthy gentiles gets in trouble with the law you always hire a high priced Jewish lawyer. Hunter Biden has Abby Lowell. Donald Trump has Alina Habba. I'm proud of my Jewish heritage. I am NOT a Gentile. Doubtful whether you are a descendant of anything let alone Yeshua Hamashiach.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Why would I stoop to your level to share anything. I'm sure you can get off your lazy fat butt and get it on the Internet. The Jewish people are still the apple of Adonai's eye.

How do you establish a "Jew"? The descendents of Abraham have intermarried among other nations for centuries. They have no claim to a special "bloodline".

Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

The Heir of Abraham has come forth. Messiah. Jesus Christ. Yeshua. Give Him the honor due Him alone and stop pretending your choice makes a difference.

I suppose you are one of these heretics that believes in replacement theology?

Nope. The heir of Abraham is Jesus Christ. He was a Jew. The only Jew with ETERNAL promises. No one can replace Him. No one.

The Jewish people are the same sinners as you. No difference.

What people? The ones that God offered to kill complete and begin again in Moses?

Exo 32:10 Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.

You do realize that Moses had a Gentile wife.... right? How about Isaac. The heir of Abraham. Did he marry a sister? Did Jacob marry a sister?

You're not consider the Scriptures.

You are the hypocrite that probably came from a broken home with multiple divorces.

How nice of you. God saves sinners. It is obvious that you believe in different classes of sinners. Just like Calvinists. You believe there are special sinners. The seed of Yeshua makes all men equal.

Since you are unteachable, arrogant, conceited why would I waste my time with you.

On the contrary. I decided decades ago to know the truth personally and not to solely rely upon the words of others. You're dealing with 2nd, 3rd and 4th "hand" sources. Not me. You are the issue here. Hopefully you're not unteachable.

It's you that gives Christianity a bad name with false teaching and false allegations. Maybe it bothers you that you are not part of the chosen Jewish people. I hope for your sake you are "grafted" into the Messianic Tree. Maybe it bothers you that the Jews control 70% of Wall Street Banking and Investment. Maybe it bothers you that the Jews make up less than 2% of the world population, but since 1900, 24% of the Nobel Prize winners were Jewish.

Why would I care? The approval of this world's systems doesn't equal the approval of God. You're promoting sinners above other sinners. Not me. All men are equal and the only Eternal heir of Abraham is Jesus Christ. Either you are His descendent or your life will end without as much as a whimper. This is true of all the descendents of Adam. Death is appointed to all of them. Including you and I.

You need to get over yourself and stop being antisemitic.

I'm not. All men are sinners. There is only hope in Christ. Not those you prefer. You can't deal with the facts so you're making false claims. I call "Jews" sinners. I call Americans, sinners. All men are sinners. A sinner is a sinner. The problem is with you. Not me. You're deflecting.

What's interesting is when you sinful wealthy gentiles gets in trouble with the law you always hire a high priced Jewish lawyer. Hunter Biden has Abby Lowell. Donald Trump has Alina Habba. I'm proud of my Jewish heritage. I am NOT a Gentile. Doubtful whether you are a descendant of anything let alone Yeshua Hamashiach.

You are obviously a westerner. Why pretend otherwise. Tell me how you establish your Jewish heritage. Go for it. Do you have a clear genealogy back to Abraham himself? Please do tell.

I've never meet a Jew that actually had this. Never. All they have are self serving claims.

I actually believe Yeshua

Joh 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
Joh 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
Joh 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

I hope this doesn't apply to you. Appeal to Abraham for your position is rather silly. Those people in John 8 did the same thing. You can read what Jesus told them. Their real father wasn't God.


God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

 

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You got so much BS your eyes are turning brown. Consider the scriptures?? Heck my ancestors wrote the scriptures.

Nothing but claims without evidence. I have asked you to provide the genealogies that establish your ancestry. You're not going to provide them because they do not exist. All you're doing is making claims without evidence.

Enoch wasn't a Jew. Neither was Job. Neither was Luke. Need I go on?

I'm not dealing with second hand information or propaganda like you are. I bet you are either a legalistic hypocritical Baptist with sexual scandals or a homosexual Methodist that
loves homosexual marriages. So who are you? Maybe your into some Christian pagan cult group? You might be a phony preacher or a "fake" Christian. Maybe you are a CINO?

Again. You're definitely a westerner pretending to be something you're not.

None of the above. Keep guessing. God saves sinners. You obviously hate your brothers. John spoke of you.

1Jn 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

Christian In Name Only. You quote scripture to support your false narrative. When you read scriptures you need to find out who is saying it and to whom is it being said to.
You are a slave to the current monetary system, and jealous of Jews.

I have zero jealousy for "Jews". I can not respect any sense of ethnic or racial superiority and serve God. BTW. You've still repeatedly failed to identify how a "Jew" is actually recognized as such.

Very few Jews are in prison today, but your kind is too numerous to mention all locked up. Have you ever seen a poor Jew in America?

Yep. Certainly a westerner "CLAIMING" otherwise.

Certainly. Sounds familiar to what Yeshua warned about.

Rev 3:17 Because you say, “I am rich and have acquired great wealth, and need nothing,” but do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked,

You're a perfect example of what pretenders see in themselves.

We make our money off the backs of Gentiles.

Have you endless died "off the backs of Gentiles?"

The greatest banking dynasty the world has ever known was the Jewish Rothchilds, and they are still in existence today as investment bankers.
Mayer Rothchild said "let me print and issue money and I care not who makes the laws"
According to the Brit Hadashah the Good News goes to the Jew first and then to the Greek/Gentile. Does that mean you gentiles are second class? You decide

In your mind. Certainly. Not mine. You're neither first nor second. That statement was fulfilled in the church at Jerusalem. That assembly is long gone.

BTW. Amschel died without an heir. You might want to consider such when you start dealing with ancestry.

There is nothing Eternal about the Rothchild family.

Yeshua came to preach to the POOR.... the needy. The broken hearted. Keep insisting you're better than others and see where it gets you.

Luk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,