Total Depravity
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brightfame52
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The Gospel is never accepted in a salvation conversion experience with unregenerate, not even possible.
civic
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It’s only accepted by the unregenerate. Only unbelievers can hear the gospel and accept it and become saved. The saved do not need the gospel.
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Wilber
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It's not an opinion its not in scripture, plan and simple.
Lets make plain what the gospel actually is, so that you can clearly see the difference between lies and the truth.
1 John 5 9-13
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God
So, the whole record of God is that if anyone believes on Jesus Christ, he is saved and has eternal life. If you believe this, then you are saved. If you do not believe this, then you are calling God a liar.
Please note this to be the official “record” of God. This is what God would like you to know, as a result of reading the scriptures.
Wilber
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Post that as many times as you like, it's still not true. It's a man-made doctrine that complicates the simple message of the Gospel and imposes human interpretations on biblical texts. It undermines the concept of free will and personal responsibility in salvation, and it is not fully aligned with Scripture.
Calvinism began with the Protestant Reformation in Switzerland where Huldrych Zwingli originally taught what became the first version of the Reformed doctrine in Zürich in 1519. John Calvin's Institutes of the Christian Religion was one of the most influential theologies of the Reformation era.
Bob Carabbio
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Mankind never changed at all - period. we've all (including Jesus) shared the SAME HUMAN NATURE. ONLY JESUS, however, while sharing the same temptations as everybody else, remained sinless.
Dizerner
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brightfame52
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It's the gospel and n scripture
brightfame52
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Calvinism is the gospel you reject it you reject the gospel
Wilber
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Yes, you are right I do reject the lies found in Calvinism. If you are able to understand that Jesus Christ is God, and confess your faith with your mouth, you are saved. This is the amount of faith that is needed. Christ said that your faith could be as small as a mustard seed, and it still counts.
Romans 10
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Wilber
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Let's see the it. Chapter and verse please.
brightfame52
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brightfame52
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You have read on TULIP points b4. Plenty of verses to look at
Wilber
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Post one that says Calvinism is the gospel.
Wilber
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Judgment Day is the day of God’s final, ultimate judgment on Calvinists. There are a number of passages in Scripture that refer to the final judgment after death at the end of time when everyone will stand before God and He will render final judgment on their lives.
This will include Calvinism and it's Antichrist members, and their Doctrines of Devils who preach "another gospel"
Paul wrote about these unrepentant cult members: “Because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. God ‘will repay each person according to what they have done’ ” Romans 2:5–6
Bob Carabbio
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what part of "all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God" didn't you understand?? so Jesus spoke truthfully, and so did I. Learn to read.
The Bible says that Jesus was WITHOUT SIN (He'd have been worthless as a SIN OFFERING otherwise).
brightfame52
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I started a thread on it, go take a look
brightfame52
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You will be Judged also by the Gospel, which you openly reject
Wilber
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Wrong on both counts.
Wilber
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Post the link if it's there.
