The unending requirement of faith

brightfame52 said:
More misrepresentation, im saying if you make your faith a requirement you meet in order for God to save you, you become a law keeper for God to save you, and you are bound to keep the whole law in order for God to save you.
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Then you are a bible denier

John 20:31 (NASB 2020) — 31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that by believing you may have life in His name.

John 3:36 (NASB 2020) — 36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life; but the one who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”

John 3:14–18 (NASB 2020) — 14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes will have eternal life in Him. 16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
 
TomL said:
Then you are a bible denier

John 20:31 (NASB 2020) — 31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that by believing you may have life in His name.

John 3:36 (NASB 2020) — 36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life; but the one who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”

John 3:14–18 (NASB 2020) — 14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes will have eternal life in Him. 16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
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More misrepresentation, im saying if you make your faith a requirement you meet in order for God to save you, you become a law keeper for God to save you, and you are bound to keep the whole law in order for God to save you.
 
praise_yeshua said:
You need to study more. Jesus called his own disciple "Satan". Jesus expressed condemnation toward the seed of Abraham.

You're not the husbandman.... You're not the ONE gathering fruit. I'll wait to hear His voice. One day He will speak and you will stand silent. What Christ speaks then will matter.
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I can't study more. There's nothing left for me to learn. I already hooked into the spirit and walk and fellowship with both God and His son.
 
brightfame52 said:
More misrepresentation, im saying if you make your faith a requirement you meet in order for God to save you, you become a law keeper for God to save you, and you are bound to keep the whole law in order for God to save you.
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Why don't you believe scripture?

John 20:31 (NASB 2020) — 31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that by believing you may have life in His name.

John 3:36 (NASB 2020) — 36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life; but the one who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”

John 3:14–18 (NASB 2020) — 14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes will have eternal life in Him. 16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
 
TomL said:
Why don't you believe scripture?

John 20:31 (NASB 2020) — 31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that by believing you may have life in His name.

John 3:36 (NASB 2020) — 36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life; but the one who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”

John 3:14–18 (NASB 2020) — 14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes will have eternal life in Him. 16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
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Can I add to this...

Romans 10:9-10
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
 
Peterlag said:
Can I add to this...

Romans 10:9-10
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
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Sure, there are so many verses he has to ignore
 
TomL said:
Why don't you believe scripture?

John 20:31 (NASB 2020) — 31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that by believing you may have life in His name.

John 3:36 (NASB 2020) — 36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life; but the one who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”

John 3:14–18 (NASB 2020) — 14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes will have eternal life in Him. 16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
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More misrepresentation, im saying if you make your faith a requirement you meet in order for God to save you, you become a law keeper for God to save you, and you are bound to keep the whole law in order for God to save you.
 
TomL said:
Sure, there are so many verses he has to ignore
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There is something I really want to know. Perhaps you can help. What does having faith in Jesus produce? One example we see on this is with the following verse. What does the Christian accomplish by believing they are dead with Christ because Christ is living in them and that new life is now believing in Jesus Christ?

Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
 
Peterlag said:
There is something I really want to know. Perhaps you can help. What does having faith in Jesus produce? One example we see on this is with the following verse. What does the Christian accomplish by believing they are dead with Christ because Christ is living in them and that new life is now believing in Jesus Christ?

Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
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Christ living in a believer is the source of the new life and empowerment to live a christian life

John 15:1–5 (NASB 2020) — 1 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in Me, and I in you. Just as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself but must remain in the vine, so neither can you unless you remain in Me. 5 I am the vine, you are the branches; the one who remains in Me, and I in him bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.
 
brightfame52 said:
More misrepresentation, im saying if you make your faith a requirement you meet in order for God to save you, you become a law keeper for God to save you, and you are bound to keep the whole law in order for God to save you.
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Why don't you believe scripture?

John 20:31 (NASB 2020) — 31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that by believing you may have life in His name.

John 3:36 (NASB 2020) — 36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life; but the one who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”

John 3:14–18 (NASB 2020) — 14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes will have eternal life in Him. 16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
 
TomL said:
Christ living in a believer is the source of the new life and empowerment to live a christian life

John 15:1–5 (NASB 2020) — 1 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in Me, and I in you. Just as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself but must remain in the vine, so neither can you unless you remain in Me. 5 I am the vine, you are the branches; the one who remains in Me, and I in him bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.
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The question is what does the Christian accomplish by believing they are dead with Christ because Christ is living in them and that new life is now believing in Jesus Christ? The question is not what Christ living in the believe does.
 
TomL said:
Yes, it means what it means, only not what you need it to mean
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You dont no anything about the righteousness of God apart from the Law do you since you make part of law a requirement for life? Rom 3:21

But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
 
brightfame52 said:
You dont no anything about the righteousness of God apart from the Law do you since you make part of law a requirement for life? Rom 3:21

But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
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Nowhere do we read salvation through faith equates to works of the law claim are totally bizzarre
 
Peterlag said:
The question is what does the Christian accomplish by believing they are dead with Christ because Christ is living in them and that new life is now believing in Jesus Christ? The question is not what Christ living in the believe does.
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Confidence they can live an overcoming life

The old sinful man is gone, and the new man created after righteousness lives
 

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