nope since we know no one is saved by obeying the law-
next fallacy/heresy
No one is making that claim. Perhaps you might actually read the post before succumbing to the fleshes insatiable desire to justify itself.
nope since we know no one is saved by obeying the law-
next fallacy/heresy
no you add obeying the law tying it to ones salvation.No one is making that claim. Perhaps you might actually read the post before succumbing to the fleshes insatiable desire to justify itself.
no you add obeying the law tying it to ones salvation.
More out of context isolated verses to support your FALSE TEACHING- LegalismI posted Paul's words that you omitted. It was him and Jesus, and their Father who teaches, "If thou would enter life, keep God's commandments" (That HE before ordained that men should walk in them)
Your adopted religious sect doesn't believe in or promote these Inspired Words of God given to His Son Jesus, and the Apostles He gave to His Son, like Paul. I do believe Him, therefore, we disagree.
Amen brother !!!
What is interesting is if you do an etymology of the English word faith it came from the Latin word fide which means to trust. Faith in modern times does not mean to trust in someone/something.
I agree real faith like James says results in good works but they are not in the flesh but in the spirit. Paul says the same thing in Eph 2:10- we were created and saved for good works.
The reformers got that wrong. They need reforming.
They have created a false dilemma fallacy with their position on works. We are not talking about the law but obedience and the will which Jesus and the Apostles addressed in their teachings. Synergism is clearly taught in the entire N.T.
Good definitionI heard it put this way: Faith is to believe in and to trust in His faithfulness.
Meaning man has a responsibility to respond to the gospel with their willingness to believe and receive the message by faithWhat do you mean by "synergism is taught in the N.T.?
Meaning man has a responsibility to respond to the gospel with their willingness to believe and receive the message by faith
Baptism is a work which follows salvationI still see baptism as a work.
Synergism - Interaction of discreet agencies, agents, or conditions such that the total effect is greater than the sum of the individual effects.
Sorry, I'm still not getting the connection.
Calvinism/ Monergism teaches God saves/ regenerates man prior to believing the gospel and its Gods work whereas synergism teaches man by faith receives / believes the gospel then is regenerated by God and therefor saved by God.I still see baptism as a work.
Synergism - Interaction of discreet agencies, agents, or conditions such that the total effect is greater than the sum of the individual effects.
Sorry, I'm still not getting the connection.
Calvinism/ Monergism teaches God saves/ regenerates man prior to believing the gospel and its Gods work whereas synergism teaches man by faith receives / believes the gospel then is regenerated by God and therefor saved by God.
you are rambling and your comments have nothing to do with my quote you responded to.But the Jesus "of the Bible" teaches that "many", after having the heard the gospel, will preach in His Name, do wonderful works in His Name, but refuse to "put on" the New man, "which after God" (Not religious man) is created in righteousness and "true holiness". These men choose instead to live by and promote the religious traditions, doctrines and philosophies of this world's religious sects and business. Jesus warns specifically about these "many"
I advocate that men listen to the Jesus "of the Bible" and the Holy Scriptures inspired by His Father "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works".
"Good Works" that Jesus instructed His people to Live By, that God before ordained that men should walk in them. For this understanding, I am labeled as a heretic by these same promoters of this world's religions. In this I am Blessed.
maybe you could attempt to answer the questions in the OP.Like I said, you have your religious philosophy. I'm just pointing out that it isn't Paul's, when a person considers all of his teaching, as my post clearly point out.
And whether obedience is a choice a man makes, or the result of some supernatural force, matters little. In either case, the Good Works God created beforehand that men should walk in them, exists in the Biblical examples of faithful men. Regardless of the reason, the fruits exist.
But there is no time in any recorded Biblical history, that God's church rejected God's Judgments and created their own, rejected God statutes, and created their own high days, created images of God in the likeness of men. Yet you are a promoter of a religious business of this world which does just that, and you know it. There is also never recorded in Biblical History, a faithful servant of God condemning, ridiculing, persecuting, calling names, demeaning and otherwise scorning a man who has Yielded himself a servant to God. But there are countless examples of religious men, who Profess to know God, who even call Jesus Lord, Lord, who demean, ridicule and work to deceive those who "press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus".
You call those who believe all that Paul teaches, "a heretical Pharisee".
I respectfully disagree based on what is actually written in Scriptures.
You are correct @StudymanBut the Jesus "of the Bible" teaches that "many", after having the heard the gospel, will preach in His Name, do wonderful works in His Name, but refuse to "put on" the New man, "which after God" (Not religious man) is created in righteousness and "true holiness". These men choose instead to live by and promote the religious traditions, doctrines and philosophies of this world's religious sects and business. Jesus warns specifically about these "many"
I advocate that men listen to the Jesus "of the Bible" and the Holy Scriptures inspired by His Father "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works".
"Good Works" that Jesus instructed His people to Live By, that God before ordained that men should walk in them. For this understanding, I am labeled as a heretic by these same promoters of this world's religions. In this I am Blessed.
You are correct @Studyman
Titus 3:8:
"This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men."
Titus 3:14:
"And let ours also learn to maintain good works for necessary uses, that they be not unfruitful."
Matthew 5:16:
"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
Ephesians 2:10:
"For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, "which God hath before ordained" that we should walk in them."
Colossians 1:10:
"That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the "knowledge of God"."
2 Timothy 3:17:
"That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
Hebrews 10:24:
"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works."
1 Peter 2:12:
"Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you "as evildoers", they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation."
James 2:18:
"Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works."
Galatians 6:9-10:
"And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith."
Romans 12:21:
"Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."
1 Timothy 6:18:
"That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate."
James 1:27:
"Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."
These passages collectively affirm that good works are an essential fruit of faith, not for salvation but as evidence of a transformed life in Christ.
It should be heart knowledge and not head knowledge.
It’s both the mind and the heartYou are correct @Studyman
Titus 3:8:
"This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men."
Titus 3:14:
"And let ours also learn to maintain good works for necessary uses, that they be not unfruitful."
Matthew 5:16:
"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
Ephesians 2:10:
"For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."
Colossians 1:10:
"That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God."
2 Timothy 3:17:
"That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
Hebrews 10:24:
"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works."
1 Peter 2:12:
"Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation."
James 2:18:
"Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works."
Galatians 6:9-10:
"And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith."
Romans 12:21:
"Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."
1 Timothy 6:18:
"That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate."
James 1:27:
"Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."
These passages collectively affirm that good works are an essential fruit of faith, not for salvation but as evidence of a transformed life in Christ.
It should be heart knowledge and not head knowledge.
J.