Revelation is for NOW, not the FUTURE?

[Presby02]

tell me when the things happened..

when did the kings of the earth beg the rocks to fall on them,l because the great day of the lords wrath is upon them., and who can withstand

The kings of the whole Earth?

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

I already did. Christ said "this generation", those He was speaking to. He tells us when if your willing to listen. Does this mean that?

No, You did not.

You saying God said this generation is not showing me the things which happened.

Either show me specific events which fulfilled what John said would happen.

or you have proven you can not back up your own words.

 

[civic]

Every eye will see Him? So every last person?

Just quoting the Bible when it says every eye

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

The kings of the whole Earth?

Rev 6 12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

You tell me.

when did this happen?

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

Rev 6 12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

You tell me.

when did this happen?

IF we would ask but one question we would see who is already headed right into the lie beleived that causes damnation upon
all who even beleived it .
I bet if someone were to make a post
and ask folks the one question Larry king asked joel osteen
Over ninety percent of christendom would answer it the same way .
Folks we are in serious trouble . Serious trouble indeed . the one thing
that preterists ,and non pretersit , catholic and non catholic
baptist and non baptist and that list goes on and on
NOW agree upon is A false love . that is a fact . WE better start doing all to remind all too .

 

[civic]

Rev 6 12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

You tell me.

when did this happen?

It hasn’t

 

[Presby02]

Rev 6 12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

You tell me.

when did this happen?

The kings of the whole Earth? Simple question

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Every eye will see Him? So every last person?

that's what the bible says does it not?

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Nope. Two ages in scripture. This age, Old Covenant, and the age to come. New covenant.

Your not helping yourself at all here.

Nothing that the word says will happen in that age, is happening today.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

That's what coming in or on the clouds means. Judgement. Please see the Old Testament

It may be used as a parable or symbolically to make a point

but in prophecy, it means coming in the clouds. period

Jesus was told to be born of a virgin, in Bethlehem. we are told when he would enter Jerusalem. we are told he would be rejected by his own, we are told when and how he would die.

thats prophecy.

the people in Jesus day rejected prophecy.. Your helping people in the future do the same thing, by giving them an out

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

That does not yell me who the beast is.

It has already happened. Jesus said "this generation shall not pass away until these things have been fulfilled."

But it did not happen

show me the things jesus said would happen. and If they happened, it should be prety easy

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

The kings of the whole Earth? Simple question

What does the word say?

did the word get it wrong?

Does it have to be ever king? Or does it not have to be all of them.

you tell me,

when has 1 king done this??

show me one!

 

[Presby02]

But it did not happen

show me the things jesus said would happen. and If they happened, it should be prety easy

Read Matthew 24. All those things occurred in the first century. Remember "this generation"? Or does this mean that?

 

[civic]

But it did not happen

show me the things jesus said would happen. and If they happened, it should be prety easy

This generation is the generation at the end before His 2nd Coming. Its not the generation living while He was talking to them.

 

[Presby02]

This generation is the generation at the end before His 2nd Coming. Its not the generation living while He was talking to them.

So this means that?

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Read Matthew 24. All those things occurred in the first century. Remember "this generation"? Or does this mean that?

Then show me the things that happened.

Don't just generalize.

Yes this generation. this generation which is alive at the end

remember the disciples asked 3 question.

1 when will these things be (not one stone left) that happened in 70 AD.

2. what will be the sign of your coming (there you have your answer.)
3. The sign of the end of the age (also your answer)

only one of these things occured in 70 AD

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

This generation is the generation at the end before His 2nd Coming. Its not the generation living while He was talking to them.

they assume all three questions pertained to the events of 70 AD and shortly after

 

[civic]

So this means that?

It’s yet to come not fulfilled. He has not come as the Bridegroom for His Bride.

 

[civic]

they assume all three questions pertained to the events of 70 AD and shortly after

Yes a false presupposition

 

[Presby02]

It’s yet to come not fulfilled. He has not come as the Bridegroom for His Bride.

That really does not answer my question.