Redeemed from unbelief !

[TomL]

@TomL



All that believe.

You ignored the verses

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Men dont believe because Christ didnt die for them and take away their sins, their unbelief Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

You can only believe in Jesus if He died for you and took away your sin of unbelief Jn 8:24

24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
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Um Christ died for all


1 Timothy 2:4–6
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
Romans 5:18
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Isaiah 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned every one to his own way; And the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
1 Timothy 4:10
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
2 Corinthians 5:14–15
14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
John 11:51
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

as typical

 

[brightfame52]

@TomL

You ignored the verses

He died for all that believe, He delivered them from the power of darkness Col 1:13,14

Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Through Redemption vs 14

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Redemption delivers from the darkness and power of unbelief, and causes to believe.

 

[Kampioen]

@TomL



He died for all that believe, He delivered them from the power of darkness Col 1:13,14

Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Through Redemption vs 14

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Redemption delivers from the darkness and power of unbelief, and causes to believe.

Christ died for all that don't believe too. But the atonement does't provide faith.

 

[TomL]

@TomL



Men dont believe because Christ didnt die for them and take away their sins, their unbelief Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

You can only believe in Jesus if He died for you and took away your sin of unbelief Jn 8:24

24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
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Um Christ died for all


1 Timothy 2:4–6
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
Romans 5:18
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Isaiah 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned every one to his own way; And the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
1 Timothy 4:10
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
2 Corinthians 5:14–15
14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
John 11:51
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

You continue being a bible denier

 

[brightfame52]

Christ died for all that don't believe too. But the atonement does't provide faith.

No He didnt die for them who never believe, they were never His Sheep He died for Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

The condition to believe in Jesus is to have been one of His Lost Sheep.

 

[brightfame52]

@TomL

Um Christ died for all

All who believe, since His death for them redeemed them from unbelief, all iniquity.

 

[TomL]

@TomL



All who believe, since His death for them redeemed them from unbelief, all iniquity.

Again you run from scripture

1 Timothy 2:4–6
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
John 11:51
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
Romans 5:18
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Isaiah 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned every one to his own way; And the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
1 Timothy 4:10
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
2 Corinthians 5:14–15
14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
John 11:51
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

 

[TomL]

No He didnt die for them who never believe, they were never His Sheep He died for Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

The condition to believe in Jesus is to have been one of His Lost Sheep.

Scripture refutes your claim

1 Timothy 2:4–6
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
John 11:51
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
Romans 5:18
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Isaiah 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned every one to his own way; And the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
1 Timothy 4:10
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
2 Corinthians 5:14–15
14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
John 11:51
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


Will you ever stop being a bible denier.

 

[Kampioen]

No He didnt die for them who never believe, they were never His Sheep He died for Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

The condition to believe in Jesus is to have been one of His Lost Sheep.

John 10:26 doesn't say He didn't die for them.

They were not His sheep because He could see into all men and knew it, not that they were unconditionally nonelect.

John 2:23 Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.

John 2:24. *But Jesus did not commit himself unto them,
because he knew all men*,

John 2:25. And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.

Jesus died for the nonelect:

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even *denying the Lord that bought them*, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should *taste death for every man*.

 

[TomL]

John 10:26 doesn't say He didn't die for them.

They were not His sheep because He could see into all men and knew it, not that they were unconditionally nonelect.

John 2:23 Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.

John 2:24. *But Jesus did not commit himself unto them,
because he knew all men*,

John 2:25. And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.

Jesus died for the nonelect:

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even *denying the Lord that bought them*, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should *taste death for every man*.

Yep that poster you reply to assumes that Christ only died for his sheep.

 

[brightfame52]

Again you run from scripture

1 Timothy 2:4–6
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
John 11:51
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
Romans 5:18
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Isaiah 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned every one to his own way; And the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
1 Timothy 4:10
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
2 Corinthians 5:14–15
14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
John 11:51
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

All who believe, since His death for them redeemed them from unbelief, all iniquity.

 

[brightfame52]

John 10:26 doesn't say He didn't die for them.

They were not His sheep because He could see into all men and knew it, not that they were unconditionally nonelect.

John 2:23 Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.

John 2:24. *But Jesus did not commit himself unto them,
because he knew all men*,

John 2:25. And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.

Jesus died for the nonelect:

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even *denying the Lord that bought them*, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should *taste death for every man*.

Those He died for shall believe and that's His Sheep

 

[Kampioen]

Those He died for shall believe and that's His Sheep

Not all. Otherwise you have universalism. The atonement doesn't provide faith.

The following scriptures support that Christ died for the nonelect too.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even *denying the Lord that bought them*, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should *taste death for every man*.

 

[brightfame52]

Not all. Otherwise you have universalism. The atonement doesn't provide faith.

The following scriptures support that Christ died for the nonelect too.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even *denying the Lord that bought them*, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should *taste death for every man*.

Yes all His Sheep will believe and all are not His Sheep

 

[TomL]

All who believe, since His death for them redeemed them from unbelief, all iniquity.

Sorry only believers receive redemption. Christ died for all. Those who believe receive all the benefits offered by Christ
Those who do not receive redemption

1 Timothy 2:4–6
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
John 11:51
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
Romans 5:18
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Isaiah 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned every one to his own way; And the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
1 Timothy 4:10
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
2 Corinthians 5:14–15
14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
John 11:51
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

 

[brightfame52]

@TomL

Sorry only believers receive redemption. Christ died for all. Those who believe receive all the benefits offered by Christ
Those who do not receive redemption

You have to be redeemed from unbelief in order to believe.. Before being set free we are under the power of darkness sir.

 

[TomL]

@TomL



You have to be redeemed from unbelief in order to believe.. Before being set free we are under the power of darkness sir.

Sorry, redemption is only for believers

Romans 3:24–25 (LEB) — 24 being justified as a gift by his grace, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God made publicly available as the mercy seat through faith in his blood, for a demonstration of his righteousness, because of the passing over of previously committed sins,

 

[brightfame52]

Sorry, redemption is only for believers

Romans 3:24–25 (LEB) — 24 being justified as a gift by his grace, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God made publicly available as the mercy seat through faith in his blood, for a demonstration of his righteousness, because of the passing over of previously committed sins,

Thats for the redeemed. One has to be redeemed from unbelief, delivered from darkness.

 

[TomL]

Thats for the redeemed. One has to be redeemed from unbelief, delivered from darkness.

You did not address the verse


Romans 3:24–25 (LEB) — 24 being justified as a gift by his grace, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God made publicly available as the mercy seat through faith in his blood, for a demonstration of his righteousness, because of the passing over of previously committed sins,

which shows it is through faith

 

[brightfame52]

You did not address the verse


Romans 3:24–25 (LEB) — 24 being justified as a gift by his grace, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God made publicly available as the mercy seat through faith in his blood, for a demonstration of his righteousness, because of the passing over of previously committed sins,

which shows it is through faith

Thats for the redeemed. One has to be redeemed from unbelief, delivered from darkness before they believe. The word redemption in that passage apolutrósis:

release effected by payment of ransom; redemption, deliverance.
629 /apolýtrōsis ("redemption, re-purchase") emphasizes the distance ("safety-margin") that results between the rescued person, and what previously enslaved them. For the believer, the prefix (575 /apó) looks back to God's effective work of grace, purchasing them from the debt of sin and bringing them to their new status (being in Christ).