There is no mention of the elect in that verse
John 12:32–33 (LEB) — 32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.” 33 (Now he said this to indicate by what sort of death he was going to die.)
No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !
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John 12:32–33 (LEB) — 32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.” 33 (Now he said this to indicate by what sort of death he was going to die.)
brightfame52
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The all is the elect
It does not say that, so you are reading into scripture.
brightfame52
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It means that. He only died for the elect. The lifting up on the Cross was only for the elect or His Sheep Jn 10
Sorry, your assumptions are not a standard of truth.
John 12:32 (KJV 1900) — 32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
brightfame52
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The all are the Sheep from Jn 10
Nope
John 12:32 (YLT) — 32 and I, if I may be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto myself.’
brightfame52
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Yes it is all the Sheep He just talked about in Jn 10
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All means all
John 12:32 signifies that when Jesus is "lifted up" on the cross, his crucifixion will serve as God's appointed means to draw all people, regardless of their background, to a saving relationship with him by defeating Satan and offering eternal life to believers. The phrase "lifted up" refers to both his public crucifixion and his subsequent exaltation by God, symbolizing his complete victory over sin and death for the salvation of all who believe.
The word sheep does not appear in the text
Yep and Christ died for allAll means all
John 12:32 signifies that when Jesus is "lifted up" on the cross, his crucifixion will serve as God's appointed means to draw all people, regardless of their background, to a saving relationship with him by defeating Satan and offering eternal life to believers. The phrase "lifted up" refers to both his public crucifixion and his subsequent exaltation by God, symbolizing his complete victory over sin and death for the salvation of all who believe.
Isaiah 53:6 (KJV 1900) 6 All we like sheep have gone astray;We have turned every one to his own way; And the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
John 1:29 (KJV 1900) 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 3:14–16 (KJV 1900) 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 4:42 (KJV 1900) 42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
John 6:33 (KJV 1900) 33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
John 6:51 (KJV 1900) 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
Romans 5:18 (KJV 1900) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
2 Corinthians 5:14–15 (KJV 1900) 14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
1 Timothy 2:4–6 (KJV 1900) 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
1 Timothy 4:10 (KJV 1900) 10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
Titus 2:11 (KJV 1900) 11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Hebrews 2:9 (KJV 1900) 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
1 John 2:2 (KJV 1900) 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 4:14 (KJV 1900) 14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
brightfame52
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All the Sheep of Jn 10All means all
John 12:32 signifies that when Jesus is "lifted up" on the cross, his crucifixion will serve as God's appointed means to draw all people, regardless of their background, to a saving relationship with him by defeating Satan and offering eternal life to believers. The phrase "lifted up" refers to both his public crucifixion and his subsequent exaltation by God, symbolizing his complete victory over sin and death for the salvation of all who believe.
brightfame52
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It means the Sheep from Jn 10
dwight92070
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Correct but remember what Jesus said: "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself." John 12:32
So ALL men are drawn to Jesus, not just a select few. Their response to that drawing will either save them through the new birth or doom them if they reject Him.
And how do the Father and the Son draw us? With their kindness, tolerance and patience.
Not only that, but it is the kindness of God that leads men to repentance, not a sovereign choice by God to save some and damn the rest.
Romans 2:4 "Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads to repentance?"
"I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have drawn you with lovingkindness." Jeremiah 31:3
brightfame52
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The drawing is the new birth and results in faith in Christ
John 12:32 means to draw all people.
brightfame52
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Of the Sheep
“Does the Holy Spirit draw everyone?” The answer, biblically, is yes. The Spirit draws all people, but not all respond positively. The drawing is universal in scope, but resistible in nature. Jesus declared, “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself” (John 12:32). The Greek verb helkō (ἑλκω)—translated “draw”—means to strongly attract, not to override the will. Christ’s crucifixion launched a global outreach consistent with God’s desire that “all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Tim 2:4) and His unwillingness for “any to perish but for all to come to repentance” (2 Pet 3:9). Paul reinforced this same message, writing, “For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men” (Tit 2:11).
The Holy Spirit draws through conviction—concerning sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8). This isn’t a private whisper to a select few. It’s a worldwide call. He works through creation (Rom 1:18-20), conscience (Rom 2:14-15), and especially the gospel message (John 3:16; 1 Cor 15:3-4). God’s drawing is genuine, sufficient, and gracious—but never coercive. God is not a bully. People can and do resist. Stephen confronted the Sanhedrin, saying, “You always resist the Holy Spirit” (Acts 7:51). That one line crushes the idea of irresistible grace. The invitation is sincere. The response is volitional. Only those who believe in Christ are saved (John 3:16-18; Acts 16:31).
What about John 6:44? Jesus said, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.” At first glance, that sounds exclusive. But compare it with John 12:32, where Jesus says He will draw all people to Himself. Same Greek word—helkō. Same divine initiative. No contradiction. In John 6, Jesus is addressing hardened Jewish unbelief. He’s saying that no one can come to Him through tradition or works. The Father must draw—and He does—through the revelation of Christ and the convicting ministry of the Spirit. Those who believe are “given” to the Son (John 6:37) and raised up on the last day.
So yes, the Spirit draws everyone. That drawing is strong, persuasive, and always rooted in truth. But it does not override the human will. The gospel goes out to all. Faith remains the response God requires. The invitation is real. The decision is yours.
Friend, if you’ve never made the most important decision of your life, I urge you—right now—to accept God’s free gift of eternal life. The gospel is beautifully simple: salvation has been fully paid for by Jesus Christ and is offered freely to all who believe in Him. Jesus, the eternal Son of God (John 1:1; Col 1:15-17), took on human flesh (John 1:14; Phil 2:6-8; Col 2:9), lived a sinless life (1 John 3:5), and willingly went to the cross (John 10:18). There, He bore our sins and took the judgment we deserved (Mark 10:45; Rom 5:8; 1 Pet 3:18). With His dying breath, He declared, “It is finished!” (John 19:30). That was no cry of surrender—it was a declaration of victory. The debt of sin was paid in full (Col 2:13-14), and God’s justice was fully satisfied (Rom 3:25-26). Now, eternal life is offered without cost to us, because it cost Christ everything. Scripture says, “For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Rom 6:23). This gift isn’t earned through good works or religious rituals. It’s received by faith alone—simple, personal trust in Jesus as your Savior (Eph 2:8-9). Scripture states, “whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life” (Joh 3:16b). No strings attached. No performance required. Just grace—free, full, and forever.
Steven R. Cook, D.Min., M.Div.
brightfame52
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No only the Sheep, never the goats, tares, children of the devil
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…when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw everyone to myself. – John 12:32
Everyone is called to union with the Lord. This is why Jesus’s command to “go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” Matthew 28:19 That verse is so important. Tell them Jesus came to save then, not some sheep.
Accepting Jesus as our savior, we become children of the Father, one true family united in Christ. Jesus didn’t just come to save a few chosen people. He came to draw all people to Himself.
