No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

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No it's according to God's will, man naturally can not believe with his will Jn 6:44

God has the power to heal this lost and hurting world simply by believing is the finished work of Jesus Christ.

That is why we are to share the gospel. God’s Word calls us to “always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have” 1 Peter 3:15 — especially in these days of uncertainty.

 

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But I did.

Your experience is not the basis of the truth for me

 

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The gratia universalis et resistibilis is the theme of the confession’s Arminian doctrine: “The grace of God, the influences of the Holy Spirit, and the invitations of the gospel are given to all men, and by these they receive power to repent and obey all the requirements of the gospel. Hence it appears a perfect inconsistency to suppose that God would provide salvation for a less number than he really loved.” God loves everyone, Christ died for everyone, the Holy Spirit “reproves” everyone, the gospel “invites” everyone, and “by virtue of these all men have the ability to repent and believe

False teaching

 

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God has the power to heal this lost and hurting world simply by believing is the finished work of Jesus Christ

Man can't believe in Christ Jn 6:44

 

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Your experience is not the basis of the truth for me

 

[FreeInChrist]

No it's according to God's will, man naturally can not believe with his will Jn 6:44

I almost think that is true of you.... in a few more posts I might be certain.

 

[Samson]

False teaching

I know you have a ton of it and you really need to lighten up on it and give us a break.

 

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Man can't believe in Christ Jn 6:44

Sure we can.

And the good news is this… that God, the creator of the universe, is good, and desires a personal relationship with each one of us.

Unfortunately, mankind is bent toward the dark side, and basically toward everything that God is not. As a provision for this, in order to have that intimate relationship with us, God sent His own son, Jesus Christ, as a willing sacrifice, to suffer and die for all of our wrongs, making full payment for them. And then He conquered death for us, raised from the dead and ascended into heaven… making a way for us to enter heaven as well.

The one requirement that God has made, is that we simply believe what He said to be true, turn away from our old life, and receive His Son, Jesus, into our hearts by faith.

 

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After the arrest of John the Baptist, “Jesus came into Galilee, proclaiming the gospel of God, and saying, ‘The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel’” Mark 1:14–15

Jesus’ exhortation for His listeners to repent indicated that they needed to change their minds. That He told them to believe in the gospel indicated how they needed to change their minds. Mark refers to Jesus’ message as “the gospel of God” or “the good news of God.” It was good news that the kingdom was at hand, and Jesus was preparing His listeners for how to be part of that kingdom.

 

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Sure we can.

Then you wiser than God

 

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Then you wiser than God

No one is wiser than God, stop making things up.

Man can believe in Christ.
And the good news is this… that God, the creator of the universe, is good, and desires a personal relationship with each one of us.

Unfortunately, mankind is bent toward the dark side, and basically toward everything that God is not. As a provision for this, in order to have that intimate relationship with us, God sent His own son, Jesus Christ, as a willing sacrifice, to suffer and die for all of our wrongs, making full payment for them. And then He conquered death for us, raised from the dead and ascended into heaven… making a way for us to enter heaven as well.

The one requirement that God has made, is that we simply believe what He said to be true, turn away from our old life, and receive His Son, Jesus, into our hearts by faith.

 

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Yes, men can believe in Christ through faith and trust in his teachings, actions, and sacrifice, which involves an intellectual understanding of him as the Son of God and the Messiah combined with a sincere commitment to let his teachings transform their lives, leading to a "new creature" in God's eyes and the assurance of eternal life.

 

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No one is wiser than God, stop making things up.

I know that, but since you spoke against what God says, you wiser than God

 

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I know that, but since you spoke against what God says, you wiser than God

Hate to burst you bubble but I'm not wiser than God. Stop making things up.

Man can believe in Christ.
And the good news is this… that God, the creator of the universe, is good, and desires a personal relationship with each one of us.

Unfortunately, mankind is bent toward the dark side, and basically toward everything that God is not. As a provision for this, in order to have that intimate relationship with us, God sent His own son, Jesus Christ, as a willing sacrifice, to suffer and die for all of our wrongs, making full payment for them. And then He conquered death for us, raised from the dead and ascended into heaven… making a way for us to enter heaven as well.

The one requirement that God has made, is that we simply believe what He said to be true, turn away from our old life, and receive His Son, Jesus, into our hearts by faith.

 

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Man can believe in Christ.

Jn 6:44

 

[Keith]

Jn 6:44

This divine drawing is not coercive but rather a compelling invitation that awakens a person's spiritual senses to the reality of Christ. It does not mean one is automatically saved. It also can be resisted. You must choose to believe in Jesus.

It is by grace that individuals are drawn to Christ. This divine drawing is an act of grace that awakens a person's heart to the truth of the Gospel.

The drawing of the Father is also a demonstration of His love and desire for a relationship with humanity. In John 3:16, Jesus declares, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." God's drawing is motivated by His love for the world and His desire for all to be saved.

As 2 Peter 3:9 states, "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead, he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."

Not for a few elect

 

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This divine drawing is not coercive but rather a compelling invitation that awakens a person's spiritual senses to the reality of Christ. It does not mean one is automatically saved. It also can be resisted. You must choose to believe in Jesus.

It is by grace that individuals are drawn to Christ. This divine drawing is an act of grace that awakens a person's heart to the truth of the Gospel.

The drawing of the Father is also a demonstration of His love and desire for a relationship with humanity. In John 3:16, Jesus declares, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." God's drawing is motivated by His love for the world and His desire for all to be saved.

As 2 Peter 3:9 states, "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead, he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."

Not for a few elect

John 6:44 serves as an invitation to respond to the drawing of the Father. Not all will respond. It is a reminder that God is actively seeking a relationship with each person and that coming to Christ by our own freewill is a response to His loving initiative.

As Jesus invites in Matthew 11:28, "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest."

 

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John 6:44 serves as an invitation

Lol false

 

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If God was to leave a man to himself, what we are naturally, we would never be saved, we would never seek the True God , which is the God of Election Rom 3:11

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

We would never come to Christ, the True Christ that came only to save a particular people and not everyone without exception Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Who laid down His Life only for His Sheep Jn 10:11,15

11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

The Christ who was only commissioned to Give Eternal Life to Gods chosen Jn 17:2-3

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

3 And this is life eternal, that they[the elect given Him of the Father] might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Man naturally wont come to this Jesus Christ Jn 5:40

“And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

By nature we are at enmity against this Christ Rom 8:7

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.11

 

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Jn 6:44

Context lesson on John 6 by two of the most abused scriptures in the entire NT by calvinists.

John 6:44-45
“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God. Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.

Believers are drawn and believers come to the Son, not unbelievers.

Calvinists you pet passage in John 6 has been dismantled. Believe Jesus not your teachers, theologians, Calvin.

conclusion: those who are drawn to Jesus and come to Him are those who already believe ( not depraved unbelievers who must be regenerated first ) and have heard and learned from the Father.

John 6:65
And He was saying, “For this reason I have told you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.”

The Calvinist tries and bypass the reason Jesus gives in Jesus statement above that no one can come to Him unless it has been granted by the Father. They read tulip into the statement and it has nothing whatsoever to to with total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement or irresistible grace.

Here is the reason given by Jesus below in the previous verse. This answers the why question.

John 6:64- Yet there are some of you who do not believe.”

conclusion: only believers will come to Him, not unbelievers- those who are totally depraved sinners. The question is will you believe Jesus or the doctrines of man that are in error ?

hope this helps !!!