Mark 16:16~"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
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Truther
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No, you guys keep renaming him. You better hope he doesn’t begin to rename you guys.
Johann
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Have you ever been in contact with a Messianic Jewish Community?! This has nothing to do with the Hebrew Roots Movement!
Are you willing to learn, or are you dogmatic?
Truther
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Yes, we held a public debate with them. I learned some from them. As a matter of fact, I had to modify my dispensational point of view after months of debating them in public. I figured out exactly what Paul was talking about in the course of doing that. Debate is definitely healthy.
Believe
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You cannot change my name. I have to go to court to change my name. And you're asking me what I think Jesus thinks about? Yeah that's a great theology question. Hey buddy what do you think Jesus is thinking about right now?
Jesus knows who he is. He's given us over a hundred different names that are in the bible that we can call him. You just stuck on the name Jesus because you're using it as a basis for your false premise.
Johann
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Nobody here is attacking Messiah and I'm glad you are lifting Him up for the whole world to see!
Truther
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So all you know what I’m talking about, I realized that the law is still alive and only used by God to condemn and judge sinners. Only the Saints are free from the law. As long as they obey Acts 2:38 and continue to walk in the spirit. That is perfectly Aligned with scripture.
Truther
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Not attacking Messiah, but attacking his name. I guess that’s the same thing.
Truther
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While we’re on it… Did your parents name you? “SON“?
koberstein
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You are not lifting anything up but yourself
Johann
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Still waiting for you to do some cross referencing-if you can do that you will answer your own question.
iesous (G2424) is a transliteration of the Heb. "Joshua," meaning "Jehovah is salvation," i.e., "is the Savior," "a common name among the Jews, e.g., Exo_17:9; Luk_3:29 (RV); Col_4:11. It was given to the Son of God in Incarnation as His personal name, in obedience to the command of an angel to Joseph, the husband of His Mother, Mary, shortly before He was born, Mat_1:21.
By it He is spoken of throughout the Gospel narratives generally, but not without exception, as in Mar_16:19, Mar_16:20; Luk_7:13, and a dozen other places in that Gospel, and a few in John.
"'Jesus Christ' occurs only in Mat_1:1, Mat_1:18; Mat_16:21, marg.; Mar_1:1; Joh_1:17; Joh_17:3. In Acts the name 'Jesus' is found frequently. 'Lord Jesus' is the normal usage, as in Act_8:16; Act_19:5, Act_19:17; see also the reports of the words of Stephen, Act_7:59, of Ananias, Act_9:17, and of Paul, Act_16:31; though both Peter, Act_10:36, and Paul, Act_16:18, also used 'Jesus Christ.'
"In the Epistles of James, Peter, John and Jude, the personal name is not once found alone, but in Rev. eight times (RV), Rev_1:9; Rev_12:17; Rev_14:12; Rev_17:6; Rev_19:10 (twice); Rev_20:4; Rev_22:16.
"In the Epistles of Paul 'Jesus' appears alone just thirteen times, and in the Hebrews eight times; in the latter the title 'Lord' is added once only, at Heb_13:20. In the Epistles of James, Peter, John, and Jude, men who had companied with the Lord in the days of His flesh, 'Jesus Christ' is the invariable order (in the RV) of the Name and Title, for this was the order of their experience; as 'Jesus' they knew Him first, that He was Messiah they learnt finally in His resurrection.
But Paul came to know Him first in the glory of heaven, Act_9:1-6, and his experience being thus the reverse of theirs, the reverse order, 'Christ Jesus,' is of frequent occurrence in his letters, but, with the exception of Act_24:24, does not occur elsewhere in the RV.
"In Paul's letters the order is always in harmony with the context. Thus 'Christ Jesus' describes the Exalted One who emptied Himself, Php_2:5, and testifies to His pre-existence; 'Jesus Christ' describes the despised and rejected One Who was afterwards glorified, Php_2:11, and testifies to His resurrection. 'Christ Jesus' suggests His grace, 'Jesus Christ' suggests His glory."*
* From Notes on Thessalonians, by Hogg and Vine, pp. 16, 29.
Are you going to tell me I can't use Strong's or the Vine's Dictionary?!
Freely this is given me, freely I share with you!
Begotten
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But he already has, I'm a believer. I'm a follower. I'm a christian. I'm a disciple. I'm a saint. I'm a brother. I'm Abraham's offspring.
koberstein
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Untruther your name is hokey. Yeshua is an Aramaic name and is Hashem.
Baruch Hashem Adonai
koberstein
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You are horrific with your heretic thoughts and ideas.
Believe
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What? "the law is still alive and only used by God to condemn and judge sinners" What happened to John 3:16? The only way to go to hell is to reject Jesus as savior. He fulfilled the law. Dialogue with you gets worse and worse.
Believe
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Why would you ask a stupid question like that?
Believe
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Yeah you need to knock that off. That's stiff neck thing is not a good look on you
Johann
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Careful brother-let's keep this strictly above board-I was taught there is no such thing as a stupid question.
Johann.
