If we believe in all humans being created as sinners in Adam or if we believe in our existence and fall by our own free will before the creation of the physical universe, then we must accept that Job was a sinner on earth needing redemption in Christ, the superlatives of his moral character notwithstanding.-Yes, Job wants to know his errors and sins!
- Because he knows he hasn’t done anything wrong!
There is a very curious bypay in this story which comes from the pre-conception existence theory of our life in the heavens a spirits in which every sinner had his fall by his own true free will before the creation of the physical universe which all the Sons of GOD saw and sang HIS praise, Job 38:7, after which they were sown into the earth as sinners: Matt 13:36-39.- And he doesn’t know what is happening!
- Why can’t he speak with God?
- Of course he doesn’t know what’s on between God and the devil!
- He doesn’t know God can’t have a discussion with him!
its about to happen to much of jacob...Job 1:22
- Job’s world has collapsed, everything he knows has gone away from him!
- Think about losing everything the same day!
- Of course, he was a sinner as every human being!If we believe in all humans being created as sinners in Adam or if we believe in our existence and fall by our own free will before the creation of the physical universe, then we must accept that Job was a sinner on earth needing redemption in Christ, the superlatives of his moral character notwithstanding.
There is a very curious bypay in this story which comes from the pre-conception existence theory of our life in the heavens a spirits in which every sinner had his fall by his own true free will before the creation of the physical universe which all the Sons of GOD saw and sang HIS praise, Job 38:7, after which they were sown into the earth as sinners: Matt 13:36-39.
IF the call to all sinful people of the kingdom is the same, ie, 2 Cor 6:17 “Therefore come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.” Berean Standard Bible and
IF the reason the judgement day has been postponed due to the intransigence of these sinful people of the kingdom against coming out of the world and its pleasures and profits, Matt 13:27-30, it seems likely we must live with the reprobate weeds until we have learned to fulfill this command and we are finally willing to accept the death and destruction of the reprobate people of the evil one, men, women and children, 1 Samuel 15:3, by their harvest into fire by the angels of GOD after the sinful but good seed are made safe by their holiness...
THEN it is no great leap to see that GOD may have used Job to open the eyes of the world to the absolute depths of eternal evil in Satan and his angels by letting him to chose to monster the most holy old man on earth (and his family) just because YHWH spoke nicely about him ! so as to teach HIS people the necessity of them to come out from the evil ways of this world and their sins, to end their sympathy for the devil and the unbelievers condemned already, John 3:18,
and in this context
THAT HE may have made an agreement with Job before Job was sown into this world to do this terrible work for YHWH, that is, that HE didn't just drop Job and his family into this mess to be monstered without their consent. So few remember anything about their previous life in the heavens (though some have re-visited it, 2 Cor 12:2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of it I do not know, but God knows. Berean Standard Bible) so probably Job did not remember either and thus felt abused.
- But the book of genesis says that Adam and eve were created perfect on the earth!If we believe in all humans being created as sinners in Adam or if we believe in our existence and fall by our own free will before the creation of the physical universe, then we must accept that Job was a sinner on earth needing redemption in Christ, the superlatives of his moral character notwithstanding.
There is a very curious bypay in this story which comes from the pre-conception existence theory of our life in the heavens a spirits in which every sinner had his fall by his own true free will before the creation of the physical universe which all the Sons of GOD saw and sang HIS praise, Job 38:7, after which they were sown into the earth as sinners: Matt 13:36-39.
IF the call to all sinful people of the kingdom is the same, ie, 2 Cor 6:17 “Therefore come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.” Berean Standard Bible and
IF the reason the judgement day has been postponed due to the intransigence of these sinful people of the kingdom against coming out of the world and its pleasures and profits, Matt 13:27-30, it seems likely we must live with the reprobate weeds until we have learned to fulfill this command and we are finally willing to accept the death and destruction of the reprobate people of the evil one, men, women and children, 1 Samuel 15:3, by their harvest into fire by the angels of GOD after the sinful but good seed are made safe by their holiness...
THEN it is no great leap to see that GOD may have used Job to open the eyes of the world to the absolute depths of eternal evil in Satan and his angels by letting him to chose to monster the most holy old man on earth (and his family) just because YHWH spoke nicely about him ! so as to teach HIS people the necessity of them to come out from the evil ways of this world and their sins, to end their sympathy for the devil and the unbelievers condemned already, John 3:18,
and in this context
THAT HE may have made an agreement with Job before Job was sown into this world to do this terrible work for YHWH, that is, that HE didn't just drop Job and his family into this mess to be monstered without their consent. So few remember anything about their previous life in the heavens (though some have re-visited it, 2 Cor 12:2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of it I do not know, but God knows. Berean Standard Bible) so probably Job did not remember either and thus felt abused.
I know orthodoxy is happy with this interpretation but to understand how PCE interprets such verses:- But the book of genesis says that Adam and eve were created perfect on the earth!
What is your evidence that this word all in Job 38:7 while the morning stars sang together and All the sons of God shouted for joy? Berean Standard Bible refers only to angels and not, as it says, to ALL those created as HIS Sons as spirits? If you are a son of GOD, these words can be read to put you in heaven at the time of the physical creation of the universe and you saw it and sang HIS praises !!! without doing any damage to the words or twisting them at all!- Moreover the Sons of God are angels!
- Genesis 6:1What is your evidence that this word all in Job 38:7 while the morning stars sang together and All the sons of God shouted for joy? Berean Standard Bible refers only to angels and not, as it says, to ALL those created as HIS Sons as spirits? If you are a son of GOD, these words can be read to put you in heaven at the time of the physical creation of the universe and you saw it and sang HIS praises !!! without doing any damage to the words or twisting them at all!
The restriction of all to only angels is only supported by the use of angel as a reference to a type of being, or a species of beings, but angel does not mean this! It is a job description only! There are only created spirits, some working for GOD, some flung to Sheol in the earth for their sins as found in Rev 12:4-9 and all human sinners are spirits sown into this world by the Son of Man or the devil as per the EXPLANATION of Matt 13:36-39.