brightfame52
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I knew you would not agree
John Piper: Born again through faith in the gospel
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brightfame52
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One has to be born again so they can believe the Gospel. BTW the Gospel isnt Christ died for everyone.
brightfame52
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brightfame52
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The Gospel will be rejected by the condemned lost, thats Gods purpose for sending them the Gospel. Its only a word of salvation to the born again saved. A savor of life unto life.
brightfame52
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No it cant be demonstrated to you, that's Gods prerogative alone. I have given you my scripture witness and you have rejected it. Also even though the greek isnt the final authority for interpreting scripture, only scripture is 1 Cor 2:13-14
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Yet the greek doesnt help you at all
civic
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Thats because I agree with Jesus and the Apostles.
brightfame52
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The Gospel has many details. Paul wrote this is the Gospel Gal 3:8Thats because I agree with Jesus and the Apostles.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
Is this a different Gospel from 1 Cor 15:3-4 ? Please explain
civic
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nope its the good news about the Messiah which is all over the O.T.
brightfame52
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Good detailed explanation
civic
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You reject the detailed responses. I intentionally kept it simple so there would be no excuses.
brightfame52
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Dont do it for me, what about others ? What is the Gospel preached in Gal 3:8You reject the detailed responses. I intentionally kept it simple so there would be no excuses.
MTMattie
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yes. Agreed. The message.The gospel message goes hand in hand with the Person Jesus
One does not need to have written things in their hand to know what is there or to believe it hook, line and sinker.
brightfame52
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One needs to know what the Gospel is as it is written in the scriptures. How can one believe and witness the Gospel if they dont know what it is scripturally ?
brightfame52
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That Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures. Didnt Christ die as a Surety of a Better Covenant ? Heb 7:22
By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament/covenant
How does that relate to this promise according to the scripture ? Lk 1:72-73
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72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
Isa 42:6-7
6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament/covenant
How does that relate to this promise according to the scripture ? Lk 1:72-73
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72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
Isa 42:6-7
6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
Those lost even though the gospel is preached to them
2 Thessalonians 2:10 (LEB) — 10 and with every unrighteous deception against those who are perishing, in place of which they did not accept the love of the truth, so that they would be saved.
brightfame52
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The Gospel is preached to the lost for the purpose of increasing their guilt and sin against God. However as a word of Salvation its sent to the saved, the regenerated.
TibiasDad
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So you are incapable of demonstrating scripturally why I’m wrong or that you are right…
Because you are incapable of demonstrating why scripture supports your views.
The language and syntax thereof is necessarily inspired by God, for that is what determines the meaning of the original writers, and what guides the ability to translate the original text into other languages.
Without understanding of the Greek language of the time the Bible was written we have no basis to understand what it really means to say.
If God inspires the language used, it is indispensable for anyone. Not understanding the Greek language is the ultimate nail in your coffin.
Doug
brightfame52
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Before man is born again, he is dead in sin, no spiritual life, incapable of any spiritual activity. Believing the Gospel is Spiritual. The greek cant help you now
As usual you ignore scripture
John 3:16For in this way God loved the world, so that he gave his one and only Son, in order that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but will have eternal life.
Acts 16:31And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household!”
Rom 10:9–10that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation.
Eph 2:8–9For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God; it is not from works, so that no one can boast.
Mark 16:16The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who refuses to believe will be condemned.
Rom 1:16For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
John 20:31 (LEB) — 31 but these things are recorded in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
John 6:47 (LEB) — 47 Truly, truly I say to you, the one who believes has eternal life.
Romans 10:9–10 (LEB) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation.
Which shows salvation and life is given to those who believe
