You did say Ezekiel 36 which is a prophesy of a new heart, far in the future of their obedience. That proves obedience is ahead of the new heart. Calvinists will immediately deny that fact with statements like what you just wrote.
Obedience precedes new heart also in the NT. For the NT, it's no longer longer in the far future. If you want to trash the OT then go right ahead. Calvinists always trash the Bible whenever it does not conform to their presuppositions.
Exactly. It's about obedience in the New Covenant not under the OC. Keep looking for a way out.
Obedience precedes new heart also in the NT. For the NT, it's no longer longer in the far future. If you want to disregard the truths of the OT in opposition to the NT then go right ahead. Calvinists always trash the Bible whenever it does not conform to their presuppositions.
You're projecting again.
No it don't. LOL Read it again. Your given the new heart to obey not because you obeyed. FAIL
Guess who is the audience. FAIL for you.
The Bible holds the truth, not you. You agreed that obedience precedes new heart in the OT? Right? For the NT, it's no different except that it is no longer in the far future.
The New Covenant. It's future tense. LOL
So you don't agree that the new heart in Ez 36 is a prophesy given to believers? Talk about denying the Bible.
You're projecting again.
No. For the second time. It's in the future tense. Believers in the NC. It's about the New Covenant.
What about his audience who are OT believers? Are they out of luck?
No one! It was a rhetorical question…
Nothing says it was a gift; (the grammar of Eph 2:8-9 has been irreducibly shown to demonstrate this) and it is only given as a part of the Imago Dei. The ability to trust, believe, have faith in something or someone is as much a part of human nature as the ability to breathe.
But faith precedes the new heart, for it is through, by means of our faith that God extends his graciousness to give us a new heart. The result of his graciousness is, in part, his Spirit indwelling us, which causes us to be capable of being obedient to the Lord.
This is a classic oxymoron statement if I have ever heard one! That is a proud statement that God will never allow to go unpunished ~more strong delusions will surely come to such a person and rightly so.
You constantly are bashing Calvinism because you vainly and proudly think it makes your arguments look more according to the scriptures because so many others with you despise and war against free justification by grace alone ~ by the obedience and faith of Jesus Christ alone. You have no clue what truth is if it hit you right between your eyes, for that's the only place it will hit you at, since you are guilty of closing your heart to the truth, thereby, God has harden your heart to his truth, by withholding the very mercy we preach that MUST FIRST BE GIVEN to a sinner before he can see, hear, and obey which you proudly, consistently, reject.
That's deep! My youngest grandson knows that truth and a lot more.
You have zero understanding of the New Covenant, if you think you do, then let us two start a thread and discuss the New Covenant, or we can just go to Psalm 89 and I'll put forth my understanding concerning God's faithfulness, while you exalt your god of synergetic theology, and we shall see who the scriptures will support...btw, the it will not take very long to see this.
You obviously don’t know what an oxymoron is, for your statement is a tidy mess.
Doug,
They are part of the OC. It's prophecy concerning the NC. For the how many times now?
Salvation is a gift including the means that brings it about which is 100% of God. The grammar in Ephesians 2:8,9 favors the Reformed position and thats not even in dispute really except for those with a more man centered theology such as yourself. Paul asks, "what do you have you have not recieved"? I can say nothing. You could say everything but my faith of course. That's a blessing of a hardened heart right Doug?
So you have nothing to say about Ezekiel's immediate audience other than "they are part of the OC"? Are you saying that they are stuck forever in the OC with no hope for a prophetic new heart? Reveal to us what happens to them according to your calvinist presuppositions.
So now you're God's spokesman, telling us what God will do or not do. What happened to the Bible? You still can't produce even one verse that explicitly demonstrates that regeneration precedes belief in Christ.
The Bible does that. I'm just the messenger.
You don't understand or refuse to understand that God's preordained good works, that He elected for each one of us, is part of His Grace. Why do you continuously refuse to acknowledge that part of God's Grace?
You're corrupting young minds, I see.
The Apostles called themselves Synergists in the Greek. Why do you continue to bad mouth them?
The audience is Old Covenant saints dealing with the covenant which was to come. Pretty simple for most.
