Jesus Christ is the wisdom and creation of God

[Runningman]

it may ot mention the word incarnation but its meaning/description is rather clear from John 1:1 and John 1:14. Also cf 1 John 1:1-4, 1 John 4:1-4, 2 John 1:7- all describing the Incarnation God in the flesh- see also Colossians 1:15-19 especially Colossians 1:19 cf Colossians 2:9. God became man is the Incarnation. These above passages are the biblical evidence for that fact. Your presuppositions as a unitarian will not allow you to see this truth.

hope this helps !!!

So any time a thing "becomes" something else in the Bible it means it's an incarnation? Are you sure you're prepared to go down that road?

Please show me all of the verses in the Bible where the Word is a pre-existent person.

 

[civic]

So any time a thing "becomes" something else in the Bible it means it's an incarnation? Are you sure you're prepared to go down that road?

Please show me all of the verses in the Bible where the Word is a pre-existent person.

See my thread called the Eternal Son

 

[synergy]

Everything I said is still there and it will never be backtracked. I'm going full steam ahead.

So you're going on record that you continue to promote the following you wrote. Excellent!!!

In John 1:1 the Greek phrase καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος (“and the Word was God”) places theos first for emphasis. This is a well-known structure in Greek grammar to show nature, not identity. It’s not indefinite, it’s qualitative. John is saying the Word is of the same essence as God, but distinct from ton Theon (the Father)."

Your statements that Greek grammar has the ability to show nature and that "John is saying the Word is of the same essence as God" proves that Jesus is God by nature, proving Trinitarianism.

Thanks so much for once again promoting Trinitarianism. Many of our greatest reasons for destroying unitarianism are a direct result of our discussions with you and you should be honorably recognized for that.

Conclusion:
All unitarians are Judaizers. They are blind to the multiple OT Theophanies and to many NT verses, especially John 1:1.

 

[Runningman]

So you're going on record that you continue to promote the following you wrote. Excellent!!!

Your statements that Greek grammar has the ability to show nature and that "John is saying the Word is of the same essence as God" proves that Jesus is God by nature, proving Trinitarianism.

Thanks so much for once again promoting Trinitarianism. Many of our greatest reasons for destroying unitarianism are a direct result of our discussions with you and you should be honorably recognized for that.

Conclusion:
All unitarians are Judaizers. They are blind to the multiple OT Theophanies and to many NT verses, especially John 1:1.

Means the Word is godly like God but is distinct from God, i.e., the Word is not literally God Himself. Thus the Word is not "Ton Theon" or "The God" in english. John 1:1 is a Unitarain proof text.

 

[synergy]

Means the Word is godly like God but is distinct from God, i.e., the Word is not literally God Himself. Thus the Word is not "Ton Theon" or "The God" in english. John 1:1 is a Unitarain proof text.

You already agreed that "John is saying the Word is of the same essence as God". That means Jesus possesses Omnipotence, Omniscience, Omnipresence, and Eternality. Don't tell me that you believe in a God that does not possess those attributes. This proves Trinitarianism once more.

Conclusion:
All unitarians are Judaizers. They are blind to the multiple OT Theophanies and to many NT verses, especially John 1:1.

 

[Runningman]

You already agreed that "John is saying the Word is of the same essence as God". That means Jesus possesses Omnipotence, Omniscience, Omnipresence, and Eternality. Don't tell me that you believe in a God that does not possess those attributes. This proves Trinitarianism once more.

Conclusion:
All unitarians are Judaizers. They are blind to the multiple OT Theophanies and to many NT verses, especially John 1:1.

The essence is godliness, the person is God. The Word is not the same person as God. I have completely debunked your religion and you seem to be agreeing with me since you're calling what we said an agreement.

 

[synergy]

The essence is godliness, the person is God. The Word is not the same person as God. I have completely debunked your religion and you seem to be agreeing with me since you're calling what we said an agreement.

So you don't believe God's essence has the attributes of Omnipotence, Omniscience, Omnipresence, and Eternality but is just "godly". Got it.

Conclusion:
All unitarians are Judaizers. They are blind to the multiple OT Theophanies and to many NT verses, especially John 1:1.