James' Teaching On Justification: Before Men Or Before God?

First you said - "faith is not something you can do in your head/heart" yet now you are back peddling and saying we certainly do. So, which is it? :unsure:
It is impossible to converse with you because you either willfully act like you are completely stupid, or you are so steeped in your false doctrine that you cannot see clearly (I believe it is the latter).

I will answer this one point and then consign you to the destiny you have earned (Rom 2:6).
Yes, there is an internal, mental portion of faith, just as there is a physical body. But there is also a physical, active portion to faith, just as there is a spirit. And just as the body has no life in it unless the spirit is also in it, the mental portion of faith has no life in it unless it also has actions.

You would have us believe that the mental portions of faith provide life (salvation), and then later are demonstrated through actions. But that is not what Scripture says. It says that there is no life in only the mental aspects of faith. There is only life in a full, complete, action producing faith.
 
It is impossible to converse with you because you either willfully act like you are completely stupid, or you are so steeped in your false doctrine that you cannot see clearly (I believe it is the latter).
Salvation by grace through faith, not works (Ephesians 2:8,9) is not false doctrine. Works salvation/works righteousness = false doctrine. (Romans 4:6; 11:6) The reason why certain folks cannot see clearly is because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Corinthians 2:14) These certain folks who do not believe the gospel are blinded by the god of this world. (2 Corinthians 4:3,4)

Now believers have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. (1 Corinthians 2:12-13) It takes the Holy Spirit and not a master's degree.
I will answer this one point and then consign you to the destiny you have earned (Rom 2:6).
Romans 2:7 - To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
Looking forward to it! :love:
Yes, there is an internal, mental portion of faith, just as there is a physical body. But there is also a physical, active portion to faith, just as there is a spirit. And just as the body has no life in it unless the spirit is also in it, the mental portion of faith has no life in it unless it also has actions.
The actions/works are the fruit of faith. In James 2:26, the comparison of the human spirit and faith converge around their modes of operation. The spirit (Greek pneuma) may also be translated "breath." As a breathless body exhibits no indication of life, so fruitless faith exhibits no indication of life. The source of the life in faith is not works; rather, life in faith is the source of works. (Ephesians 2:5-10) *Unless we have been made alive together with Christ (who is the source of spiritual life and eternal life) by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:5-8) then we remain spiritually dead. The natural man just doesn't understand.
You would have us believe that the mental portions of faith provide life (salvation), and then later are demonstrated through actions.
You would have us believe that we are saved by grace through faith AND WORKS in contradiction to scripture. (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9) Faith is not merely mental but is from the heart (Romans 10:10) and involves trust and reliance in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. This is the deeper faith that you cannot seem to grasp demonstrated by your trust in works and lack of trusting in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. Actions/good works are produced later, after having been made alive together with Christ by grace through faith and created in Christ Jesus FOR good works. (Ephesians 2:10) The actions/good works are not instantaneous the very moment that we have been saved by grace through faith. We show our faith by our works, (James 2:18) but we do not establish it. We are saved by faith at its origin and not later by works, which simply demonstrate our faith.
But that is not what Scripture says. It says that there is no life in only the mental aspects of faith. There is only life in a full, complete, action producing faith.
So, according to your logic, there was no life in Abraham's faith when he believed the Lord in Genesis 15:6 and his faith was accounted to him as righteous. *Also see Romans 4:2-3. According to your logic, Abraham's faith remained dead until many years later after he offered up Isaac on the altar in Genesis 22. When Abraham performed the good work in Genesis 22; he fulfilled the expectations created by the pronouncement of his faith in Genesis 15:6. Abraham was accounted as righteous based on his faith (Genesis 15:6) not his works (Romans 4:2-3) long before he offered up Isaac on the altar in Genesis 22.
 
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