James' Teaching On Justification: Before Men Or Before God?

[Doug Brents]

Tell me this.

What kind of action and is it ongoing perpetual action?

Are you talking about helping your neighbor and those in need, or giving testimony to everyone you talk to?

Certainly we can be baptized in front of a group of believers in church, but that does nothing to spread the word to those
who really need to hear it.

Please give me a detailed explanation on the action you feel is required?

Not the actions that I "feel" are required, but the three actions that Scripture says LEAD TO or RESULT IN our receiving salvation from God. Those three actions are:
Repentance (Acts 3:19)
Confession, verbal and public, that Jesus is Lord (Rom 10:9-10) and
Baptism in water (1 Pet 3:21, Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16, Rom 6:1-7, Col 2:11-14).

These three actions are the acts of faith that God says will result in Him bringing us into Christ through Jesus' blood and the work of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Titus]

lol Notice how this user continues to leave pauls words out.

Romans 4, No works period
Romans 11. Grace alone. again, no works period
2 Tim 2. Again no works period
Titus 3. Not even our good works save us. But Gods mercy alone

Yes. Gods people act. BECAUSE they have faith

Ignoring Paul by adding to what he said in order to change what he said.

None of Paul's writings ever says faith alone. Paul says we are saved by faith. Never does he teach a faith that is alone(void of obedience to God).
Inserting the word alone into Paul's epistles perverts his teaching into a private interpretation.

Galatians 5:6,
- for in Christ neither circumcision nor uncircumcision profits anything but faith working through love

Paul never said faith alone is profitable.
Nowhere in Romans does Paul teach faith alone is saving faith.

Romans 1:5,
- by whom we have grace and apostleship for obedience to the faith among all nations for His name

Romans 15:18,
- for I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me to make the gentiles obedient by word and works

Romans 16:26,
- but now is made manifest and by the scriptures of the prophets according to the commandment of the everlasting God made known to all nations for  the obedience of faith

Paul taught an obedient faith saves not a disobedient just belief only faith.

 

[Titus]

John 3:16,
- for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life

lol. Remember, at the point one saved, they are justified. The point that one is saved, is the point in faith they call out to jesus

ET does not teach what John teaches in John 3:16.
John uses the word believeth which is a verb not a noun.
It is a continuous action. Meaning one must continue on believing.
ET teaches one needs not continue in belief to be saved. No love in faith alone.
One does not need to continue in love for Jesus to be saved.

That is the action required to be saved. to repent of your good works and your sin, and call out like the tax collector

This is truly what Dan and ET believe.
Dan liked this post.
They believe you must repent of obeying Jesus!!!! Let that sink in.
Repent of. Doing what Jesus asks you to do.
That is teaching one must repent of loving Jesus for Jesus teaches obeying His commandments which is our good works is love for Him.

John 14:21,
- He that hath My commandments and keepeth them he it is that loveth Me and he that loveth Me shall be loved by My Father and I will love him and will manifest Myself to him

No love in ET and Dan's faith alone.

Listen to Paul teach one can have faith alone and what he thinks of it.

1Corinthians 13,
- Though I speak with tongues of men and angels and have not love I am become as sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal
- and though I have the gift of prophecy and understand all mysteries and all knowledge and though I have all faith so that I could remove mountains and have not LOVE I AM NOTHING

I encourage everyone to read the entire chapter.

Paul clearly teaches one can have all faith but without any love for God.

ET and Dan teach this is the faith that one is saved by.
Faith alone salvation is a salvation empty , void of love!!!!

For love is according to Paul,
- and now abideth faith, hope, love, these three but the greatest of these is Love

What is love according to Jesus?
Good works are not just religious duty. They are love in action. We express our love in our obedience to Christ.

John 14:15,
- if ye love Me, keep My commandments

Faith+ love= obedience
James 2:17,
- even so faith if it hath not works(love) is dead being alone

1John 3:18,
- my little children let us  NOT love in word neither in tongue but in works(obedience) and truth

That is the action required to be saved. to repent of your good works(obedience/love) and your sin, and call out like the tax collector

The tax collector had love not a dead loveless faith.
James 2:20,
- but wilt thou know O foolish man that faith without works(obedience/love) is dead

 

[Titus]

That is the action required to be saved

You could not make my job in exposing error from truth any easier.
As I've repeatedly said: believe is an action and our actions are our good works, 1John 3:23-24.
ET admitted by accident that believing in Christ is a work. He will deny this but it doesn't change truth. Truth is Truth, John 17:17.

That is the action required to be saved. to repent of your good works and your sin

Dan gave a thumbs up so he believes this.
Both ET and Dan put good works in the same category as sin.
Both need to be repented of.

Note: this is another proof their doctrine is man made.
Dan believes that repentance has nothing to do with repenting of sin.
Yet here they both are agreeing to repent of sin and good works.
There are so many contradictions in faith alone salvation that it proves itself to be doctrines of demons.
1Timothy 4:1,
- now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in latter days some shall depart from the faith (gospel of Christ)
Giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons