Not the actions that I "feel" are required, but the three actions that Scripture says LEAD TO or RESULT IN our receiving salvation from God. Those three actions are:
Repentance (Acts 3:19)
Confession, verbal and public, that Jesus is Lord (Rom 10:9-10) and
Baptism in water (1 Pet 3:21, Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16, Rom 6:1-7, Col 2:11-14).
These three actions are the acts of faith that God says will result in Him bringing us into Christ through Jesus' blood and the work of the Holy Spirit.
lol Notice how this user continues to leave pauls words out.
Romans 4, No works period
Romans 11. Grace alone. again, no works period
2 Tim 2. Again no works period
Titus 3. Not even our good works save us. But Gods mercy alone
Ignoring Paul by adding to what he said in order to change what he said.
None of Paul's writings ever says faith alone. Paul says we are saved by faith. Never does he teach a faith that is alone(void of obedience to God).
Inserting the word alone into Paul's epistles perverts his teaching into a private interpretation.
Galatians 5:6,
- for in Christ neither circumcision nor uncircumcision profits anything but faith working through love
Paul never said faith alone is profitable.
Nowhere in Romans does Paul teach faith alone is saving faith.
Romans 1:5,
- by whom we have grace and apostleship for obedience to the faith among all nations for His name
Romans 15:18,
- for I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me to make the gentiles obedient by word and works
Romans 16:26,
- but now is made manifest and by the scriptures of the prophets according to the commandment of the everlasting God made known to all nations for theobedience of faith
Paul taught an obedient faith saves not a disobedient just belief only faith.
John 3:16, - for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life
ET does not teach what John teaches in John 3:16.
John uses the word believeth which is a verb not a noun.
It is a continuous action. Meaning one must continue on believing.
ET teaches one needs not continue in belief to be saved. No love in faith alone.
One does not need to continue in love for Jesus to be saved.
This is truly what Dan and ET believe.
Dan liked this post.
They believe you must repent of obeying Jesus!!!! Let that sink in.
Repent of. Doing what Jesus asks you to do.
That is teaching one must repent of loving Jesus for Jesus teaches obeying His commandments which is our good works is love for Him.
John 14:21, - He that hath My commandments and keepeth them he it is that loveth Me and he that loveth Me shall be loved by My Father and I will love him and will manifest Myself to him
No love in ET and Dan's faith alone.
Listen to Paul teach one can have faith alone and what he thinks of it.
1Corinthians 13,
- Though I speak with tongues of men and angels and have not love I am become as sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal
- and though I have the gift of prophecy and understand all mysteries and all knowledge and though I have all faith so that I could remove mountains and have not LOVE I AM NOTHING
I encourage everyone to read the entire chapter.
Paul clearly teaches one can have all faith but without any love for God.
ET and Dan teach this is the faith that one is saved by.
Faith alone salvation is a salvation empty , void of love!!!!
For love is according to Paul,
- and now abideth faith, hope, love, these three but the greatest of these is Love
What is love according to Jesus?
Good works are not just religious duty. They are love in action. We express our love in our obedience to Christ.
John 14:15,
- if ye love Me, keep My commandments
Faith+ love= obedience
James 2:17,
- even so faith if it hath not works(love) is dead being alone
1John 3:18,
- my little children let us NOT love in word neither in tongue but in works(obedience) and truth
You could not make my job in exposing error from truth any easier.
As I've repeatedly said: believe is an action and our actions are our good works, 1John 3:23-24.
ET admitted by accident that believing in Christ is a work. He will deny this but it doesn't change truth. Truth is Truth, John 17:17.
Dan gave a thumbs up so he believes this.
Both ET and Dan put good works in the same category as sin.
Both need to be repented of.
Note: this is another proof their doctrine is man made.
Dan believes that repentance has nothing to do with repenting of sin.
Yet here they both are agreeing to repent of sin and good works.
There are so many contradictions in faith alone salvation that it proves itself to be doctrines of demons.
1Timothy 4:1,
- now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in latter days some shall depart from the faith (gospel of Christ)
Giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons
Could these two make my job any easier in exposing their faith alone doctrine as being from men not God?
Notice: ET is teaching on John 3:16.
Heres the obvious contradiction in their supposed faith only salvation.
Notice: Eternally Grateful says to be saved one must repent of good works and your sin!!!
Does that sound like faith only to be saved? No. Just more proof these men are blind leading the blind.
ET's confused gospel of "faith alone" salvation.
1 Believe only to be saved.
2. Repent of good works to be saved.
3. Repent of sin to be saved.
3 conditions already to be saved!!!
They constantly contradict themselves in their man made gospel.
One condition to be saved or three conditions to be saved? They dont know how one is saved.
The Bible teaches nothing alone saves us!!!!!
They just disproved themselves that nothing alone saves.
Now watch as they will contradict themselves again and say only belief +nothing else saves.
Paul never said faith alone is profitable.
Nowhere in Romans does Paul teach faith alone is saving faith.
Romans 1:5,
- by whom we have grace and apostleship for obedience to the faith among all nations for His name
Romans 15:18,
- for I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me to make the gentiles obedient by word and works
Romans 16:26,
- but now is made manifest and by the scriptures of the prophets according to the commandment of the everlasting God made known to all nations for theobedience of faith
Paul taught an obedient faith saves not a disobedient just belief only faith.
Typical how you NEVER bring up the passage which prove you to be in error. but bring up all these others ones. which do nto support your belief.
Lets look at paul and romans
rom 4: 3 For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD AND HE ACOUNTED IT TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” 4 Now TO HIM WHO WORKS, THE WAGES ARE NOT COUNTED AS GRACE BUT DEBT(Works cancels out grace. and makes it a wage) 5 But TO HIM WHO DOES NOT WORK but BELIEVES ON HIM WHO JUSTIFIES THE UNGOLDY , his HIS FAITH IS ACCOUNTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS
Again, if you work, your work will not be merited as grace but counte4d as debt
But if you Trust God. and do not work. your faith is counted as righteous.
Faith minus works.. equals what?
rom 4: 16 Therefore IT IF OF FAITH THAT IT MAY BE ACCORDING TO GRACE , so that THE PROMISE MAY BE SURE TO ALL THE SEED not only to those who are of the law, but also TO THOSE WHO ARE OF THE FAITH OF ABRAHAM , who is the father of us all
Again, it is of faith, not of works.. so it may be according to grace. why? Grace counters or cancels out works
need proof?
Rom 11: 6 AndIF BY GRACE, THAN IT IS NO LONGER OF WORKS, ; otherwise GRACE IS NO LONGER GRACE.
But IF IT IS OF WORKS, THEN IT IS NO LONGER OF GRACE. OTHERWISE WORK IS NO LONGER WORK
once again, Keep talking, keep spewing your denial that you teach a merited based salvation, by attacking us.
You just hurt your own credability.
You can answer to God for this. all we can do is try to help you.
Could these two make my job any easier in exposing their faith alone doctrine as being from men not God?
Notice: ET is teaching on John 3:16.
Heres the obvious contradiction in their supposed faith only salvation.
Notice: Eternally Grateful says to be saved one must repent of good works and your sin!!!
Please allow me to stick my nose into this for a second.
First off, there is no such thing as "salvation by faith plus works". There is only faith, and the misunderstanding many people have today that faith can be an internal only thing. Faith requires action or it is not real.
Second, we must always remember that all Scripture is true at the same time all the time. There is no option for picking this and that verse, but ignoring these other verses because we don't agree (or understand) what they are saying.
Third, there are three physical actions that different passages of Scripture state lead to or result in our receiving salvation:
Repentance (Acts 3:19)
Verbal, public confession of Jesus as Lord (Rom 10:9-10)
Baptism in water (1 Pet 3:21, Acts 2:38, John 3:5)
These three actions are actions of faith that result in our receiving God's gift of salvation. They do not in any way "earn" salvation, make us deserving of salvation, or force God to give us salvation. They are simply the conditions God set for us receiving His gift, just as God set conditions for receiving many of His gifts in the OT:
Naaman had to dip in Jordan 7 times to receive cleansing from leprosy
The widow had to give her last piece of bread to the prophet in order to have her food last through the famine
The widow had to borrow jars and pour oil into them in order to sell the oil to pay her late husband's debts
The nation of Israel had to march around Jericho in order for the walls to fall down
The nation of Israel had to fight battles and take possession of the Promised Land, even though God had already given it to them.
Repentance is not a physical action. It's a change of heart and not our physical heart, our spiritual heart. Sure, after repentance and faith, actions will confirm that person's salvation - but not before.
Verbal, public confession of Jesus as Lord, in itself, does not save anyone. Many verbalize "Lord, Lord" and do not even know Him. Those who say "Lord, Lord," and DO know Him have already been saved, which is exactly what is happening in Romans 10:9-10. It is not speaking of anyone's initial salvation. Rather it affirms that someone has already been saved, when he confesses Jesus. The context of Romans 10:5 makes that clear:
For Moses writes that the man who PRACTICES the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness. An unsaved man does not practice righteousness, only a saved man does. The man mentioned in verse 5 is already saved, just as the man mentioned in verses 9 and 10 is already saved.
1 Peter 3:21 says baptism now saves you, speaking figuratively. The KJV makes that clear: "the like FIGURE". Baptism does not literally save anyone.
Acts 2:38 says repentance brings forgiveness of sins, not Baptism.
John 3:5 doesn't even mention baptism. One must read that into the verse to make it mean that.
Repentance is not a physical action. It's a change of heart and not our physical heart, our spiritual heart. Sure, after repentance and faith, actions will confirm that person's salvation - but not before.
Verbal, public confession of Jesus as Lord, in itself, does not save anyone. Many verbalize "Lord, Lord" and do not even know Him. Those who say "Lord, Lord," and DO know Him have already been saved, which is exactly what is happening in Romans 10:9-10. It is not speaking of anyone's initial salvation. Rather it affirms that someone has already been saved, when he confesses Jesus. The context of Romans 10:5 makes that clear:
For Moses writes that the man who PRACTICES the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness. An unsaved man does not practice righteousness, only a saved man does. The man mentioned in verse 5 is already saved, just as the man mentioned in verses 9 and 10 is already saved.
1 Peter 3:21 says baptism now saves you, speaking figuratively. The KJV makes that clear: "the like FIGURE". Baptism does not literally save anyone.
Acts 2:38 says repentance brings forgiveness of sins, not Baptism.
John 3:5 doesn't even mention baptism. One must read that into the verse to make it mean that.
So there is a difference between works one does to earn salvation versus obedience to God's will. This is a distinction many refuse to make and seem to want to make obedience to God's will a work of merit.
In a recent blog, I indicated that there are over 100 passages in the Bible which say that the one and only condition of everlasting life is believing in Jesus. That led to an email from one of our blog readers:
I have known that for a long time, but it would be a nice tool if we had a list of where all those places are in the Bible. As you well know, for most people, that has to be an incredible statement, like “I’ll believe it when I see it.” I am wondering if you could put out there on a blog those 100 passages.
Well, I happen to have such a list. But before I give it, let me give some explanation.
Lewis Sperry Chafer famously said there are over 150 verses in the NT that clearly say that everlasting life (or justification) is solely based upon a person’s belief or faith in Jesus Christ (SystematicTheology, Volume 3, Soteriology, p. 376).
I have found the number is slightly lower, depending on how we count. Obviously, a passage which repeatedly refers to faith alone for regeneration could be counted as one passage or multiple verses. Examples include John 3:14-18; 4:10-26; 5:24-47; 6:26-58; 11:25-27; Rom 4:1-6; Gal 3:6-14; 1 John 5:9-13.
There is even one verse, Gal 2:16, which three times in the same verse says that justification is by faith and not by works. Is that one or three references? I counted it as one.
I have taken a sort of middle of the road approach to such passages, counting them as more than one in many cases, but often less than the number of verses involved.
If we are looking for texts that explicitly say that the one who believes in Jesus has everlasting life (or is saved or is justified), the number is around seventy-four.
If we include fifty-five texts which implicitly say that (for example, saying that someone is born again by the Word of God, but not specifically mentioning faith in Christ), the number rises to 129.
Note that in some of the seventy-four definite verses, faith is not specifically indicated as faith in Christ. Ephesians 2:8-9 is a famous example: “For by grace you have been saved [made alive, v 5] through faith…” Since in such cases it is clear based on the context that the author means faith in Christ, I have included these.
Seventy-Four Verses Which Clearly Teach Faith Alone
Genesis has one: 15:6. In light of Gen 15:1-5, John 8:56, Rom 4:3, and Gal 3:6, this text is clearly teaches justification by faith alone in the coming Messiah, who is Jesus.
Matthew and Mark have no verses which explicitly teach faith alone.
Luke has one explicit verse on faith alone: 8:12, “The devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.”
John has at least eighteen clear texts on faith alone, though the number could realistically be much higher: 1:12; 3:15, 16, 18, 36; 4:10-14, 25-28; 5:24, 39-40; 6:35, 37, 39-40, 47; 10:24-30; 11:25, 26; 12:36, 46-47 (cf. v 50); 20:31.
Romans has nineteen: 3:22, 24, 26, 27, 28, 30; 4:3, 5, 9, 11, 13, 16, 22, 24; 5:1; 9:30, 33; 10:4, 10 (“For with the heart one believes unto righteousness [=justification]”).
First Corinthians has only one clear verse: 1:21, “to save those who believe.”
Second Corinthians has two clear texts: 5:1-5, 8.
Galatians has a dozen clear texts: 2:16 (“justified…by faith in Jesus Christ”); 3:2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 14, 22, 24, 26.
Ephesians has two clear texts: 1:13; 2:8 (compare 2:5).
Philippians has one clear text on faith alone: 3:9 (“the righteousness which is from God by faith”).
First Thessalonians has one: 5:10 (“whether we watch or sleep, we should live together with Him”).
First Timothy has one: 1:16, “I [am]…a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life.”
Second Timothy has two clear texts: 1:12 (Paul knows he will be with the Lord and will be rewarded by Him for the work he has done); 3:15.
Hebrews has three: 4:3; 10:10, 14. First John has two texts that clearly teach faith alone: 5:1, 9-13.
A few of those seventy-four do not explicitly mention faith in Christ. However, the context brings that out, so I included them. See 2 Cor 5:1-5, 8; 1 Thess 5:10; Heb 10:10, 14, as examples.
If we were to be very narrow in our list, the number would be around sixty-nine.
Fifty-Five Implicit Faith Alone Verses
Matthew, Mark, and Luke have six implicit faith alone messages. In all six places the Lord Jesus, after healing someone, says, “your faith has saved you.” Those verses are Matt 9:22; Mark 5:34; 10:52; Luke 8:48; 17:19; 18:42. The Lord might have simply been referring to physical healing. However, it is quite possible that He was referring to both physical healing and eternal salvation.
Repentance is not a physical action. It's a change of heart and not our physical heart, our spiritual heart. Sure, after repentance and faith, actions will confirm that person's salvation - but not before.
Repentance is a change of heart, but it is also a change of action. It requires a cessation of evil actions and a beginning of righteous actions. If there is no change in action, then the repentance wasn't real.
Verbal, public confession of Jesus as Lord, in itself, does not save anyone. Many verbalize "Lord, Lord" and do not even know Him. Those who say "Lord, Lord," and DO know Him have already been saved, which is exactly what is happening in Romans 10:9-10.
The verbal confession of Jesus as Lord in Rom 10:9-10 RESULTS IN receiving salvation. It does NOT come AFTER salvation is received. Do you not even understand basic English/Greek? The result cannot come before the condition for that result.
Baptism is the reality, and the Flood was the symbol. Again, learn English/Greek. It is in water baptism that the Holy Spirit takes action to save us by the power of Jesus' blood.
John 3:5 says that both the Spirit and water are required for rebirth/entry into the Church. You want to eliminate the water and just have the Spirit do everything. That is not what Jesus said.
Peter said Acts 2:38.
Let's here from Peter himself on baptism,
1Peter 3:20-21,
- the like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us(Peter teaches baptism saves)
What baptism is not according to Peter,
- not the putting away the filth of the flesh( baptism is not taking a bath to wash the physical flesh).
- but the answer of a good conscience toward God ( the Greek says an appeal. Asking God to clean the conscience by the cleansing of Christs blood).
- by the ressurection of Jesus Christ (Peter is anchoring the power of Gods work in baptism and the cleansing of the conscience in what Jesus accomplished on the cross.
So Acts 2:38 Peter clearly is teaching one must repent and EVERYONE OF YOU be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins.
Verse 37 they are believers.
Verse 38 they are told to repent and be baptized to be saved.
So if repentance is the only condition given to be saved in verse 38.
You still have belief in Christ, in 37 and repentance in 38.
That's two conditions not one. Proving no one is saved by faith alone.
Reality: Peter mentions 3 conditions to receive Gods grace: belief, repentance, baptism.
The Bible never teaches you are saved by anything alone.
In a recent blog, I indicated that there are over 100 passages in the Bible which say that the one and only condition of everlasting life is believing in Jesus. That led to an email from one of our blog readers:
Well, I happen to have such a list. But before I give it, let me give some explanation.
Lewis Sperry Chafer famously said there are over 150 verses in the NT that clearly say that everlasting life (or justification) is solely based upon a person’s belief or faith in Jesus Christ (SystematicTheology, Volume 3, Soteriology, p. 376).
I have found the number is slightly lower, depending on how we count. Obviously, a passage which repeatedly refers to faith alone for regeneration could be counted as one passage or multiple verses. Examples include John 3:14-18; 4:10-26; 5:24-47; 6:26-58; 11:25-27; Rom 4:1-6; Gal 3:6-14; 1 John 5:9-13.
There is even one verse, Gal 2:16, which three times in the same verse says that justification is by faith and not by works. Is that one or three references? I counted it as one.
I have taken a sort of middle of the road approach to such passages, counting them as more than one in many cases, but often less than the number of verses involved.
If we are looking for texts that explicitly say that the one who believes in Jesus has everlasting life (or is saved or is justified), the number is around seventy-four.
If we include fifty-five texts which implicitly say that (for example, saying that someone is born again by the Word of God, but not specifically mentioning faith in Christ), the number rises to 129.
Note that in some of the seventy-four definite verses, faith is not specifically indicated as faith in Christ. Ephesians 2:8-9 is a famous example: “For by grace you have been saved [made alive, v 5] through faith…” Since in such cases it is clear based on the context that the author means faith in Christ, I have included these.
Seventy-Four Verses Which Clearly Teach Faith Alone
Genesis has one: 15:6. In light of Gen 15:1-5, John 8:56, Rom 4:3, and Gal 3:6, this text is clearly teaches justification by faith alone in the coming Messiah, who is Jesus.
Matthew and Mark have no verses which explicitly teach faith alone.
Luke has one explicit verse on faith alone: 8:12, “The devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.”
John has at least eighteen clear texts on faith alone, though the number could realistically be much higher: 1:12; 3:15, 16, 18, 36; 4:10-14, 25-28; 5:24, 39-40; 6:35, 37, 39-40, 47; 10:24-30; 11:25, 26; 12:36, 46-47 (cf. v 50); 20:31.
Romans has nineteen: 3:22, 24, 26, 27, 28, 30; 4:3, 5, 9, 11, 13, 16, 22, 24; 5:1; 9:30, 33; 10:4, 10 (“For with the heart one believes unto righteousness [=justification]”).
First Corinthians has only one clear verse: 1:21, “to save those who believe.”
Second Corinthians has two clear texts: 5:1-5, 8.
Galatians has a dozen clear texts: 2:16 (“justified…by faith in Jesus Christ”); 3:2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 14, 22, 24, 26.
Ephesians has two clear texts: 1:13; 2:8 (compare 2:5).
Philippians has one clear text on faith alone: 3:9 (“the righteousness which is from God by faith”).
First Thessalonians has one: 5:10 (“whether we watch or sleep, we should live together with Him”).
First Timothy has one: 1:16, “I [am]…a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life.”
Second Timothy has two clear texts: 1:12 (Paul knows he will be with the Lord and will be rewarded by Him for the work he has done); 3:15.
Hebrews has three: 4:3; 10:10, 14. First John has two texts that clearly teach faith alone: 5:1, 9-13.
A few of those seventy-four do not explicitly mention faith in Christ. However, the context brings that out, so I included them. See 2 Cor 5:1-5, 8; 1 Thess 5:10; Heb 10:10, 14, as examples.
If we were to be very narrow in our list, the number would be around sixty-nine.
Fifty-Five Implicit Faith Alone Verses
Matthew, Mark, and Luke have six implicit faith alone messages. In all six places the Lord Jesus, after healing someone, says, “your faith has saved you.” Those verses are Matt 9:22; Mark 5:34; 10:52; Luke 8:48; 17:19; 18:42. The Lord might have simply been referring to physical healing. However, it is quite possible that He was referring to both physical healing and eternal salvation.
No, Faith or believe is a Synecdoche.
Failure to understand that these words mean much more than just belief leads one to misunderstand context of verses teaching on Faith.
John 3:16 does not mention repentance.
But since believe is used as a Synecdoche repentance is included in believe.
Synecdoche: where the part represents the whole.
If we use the foolish Bible interpretation that faith onlyist use.
Then believe can only mean believe end stop.
So John 3:16 is the FULL gospel message. This cancels out repentance.
You cannot add repentance if believe only is the Full gospel.
But clearly anyone with a little common sense can see the word believe in this verse cannot mean believe alone for there are a multitude of verses teaching repentance.
As I've already proven if the gospel of Christ is belief alone. Then it is a loveless gospel.
No love for Jesus to be saved.
As Jesus Himself teaches love for Him is obedience to His commandments.
John 14:15,
- if you love Me, keep My commandments
@Titus you continue to show you mass lack of understanding. and continue to bear false witness against people who disagree with your self righteous gospel.
You quoted seabass to me (So there is a difference between works one does to earn salvation versus obedience to God's will. This is a distinction many refuse to make and seem to want to make obedience to God's will a work of merit.)
He, just like you are the ones who are confused.
If your doing a work to earn salvation (which means your doing a work to get saved, stay saved, or keep from losing salvation) . You are doing a work of merit.
if your doing a work BECAUSE you are saved (We love because he loved us) then we are not doing a work of merit, we are doing a work of love.
The difference is.
We expect nothing in return
we do not expect to get saved, be saved or stay saved because we do those works.
We expect nothing in return..
Where as you and mr Sea bass. That's all you expect. pumping your chest and praising God your not like us.
Dude, Again, you keep sticking your foot in your mouth. It does not mean this at all.
You do not trust God with your eternity one minute, and not trust the next. Everything you do from the moment you are born again is based and rooted in this faith God has saved you
without this hope. you will not continue to work.
or worse yet. You will work. but expect God to keep you saved based on those works.
But clearly anyone with a little common sense can see the word believe in this verse cannot mean believe alone for there are a multitude of verses teaching repentance.
As I've already proven if the gospel of Christ is belief alone. Then it is a loveless gospel.
No love for Jesus to be saved.
As Jesus Himself teaches love for Him is obedience to His commandments.
John 14:15,
- if you love Me, keep My commandments
James quotes two faith alone verses?
Why are you quoting from a false teacher?
Cherry picking verses is all faith onlyist do.
Read the whole chapter.
If James teaches faith alone in chapter 1. Then he contradicts himself in chapter 2.
James 1:18,
- Of His own will, begat He us with the word of trurh that we should be a kind of first fruits of His creatures
Keep reading!!!!
- wherefore my beloved brethren let every man be swift to hear slow to speak slow to wrath
- for the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God
- Wherefore lay apart all filthyness and superfluity of naughtiness and receive with meekness the engrafted WORD which is able to save your souls
But BE doers of the word(obedience) AND NOT HEARERS ONLY DECEIVING YOURSELVES
- for if any be a hearer of the word and NOT A DOER(obedience) he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a mirror
- for he beholdeth himself and goeth his way and straight way FORGETTETH what manner of man he was
- but Whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty(gospel) and CONTINUES therein he being not a forgetful hearer but a DOER of the work(works of obedience to Jesus' gospel)
this man shall,be blessed in his deed(work, obedience).
Its ridiculous to claim James taught belief and no obedience to God.
You quoted seabass to me (So there is a difference between works one does to earn salvation versus obedience to God's will. This is a distinction many refuse to make and seem to want to make obedience to God's will a work of merit.)
He, just like you are the ones who are confused.
If your doing a work to earn salvation (which means your doing a work to get saved, stay saved, or keep from losing salvation) . You are doing a work of merit.
So there is a difference between works one does to earn salvation versus obedience to God's will. This is a distinction many refuse to make and seem to want to make obedience to God's will a work of merit.
No works I do can save me.
Only doing/obeying the works of God save.
You refuse to make any distinction between works.
That's why you are showing your ignorance in what is Biblical faith that saves is.
I cannot work my way to heaven.
Since believing is a work. I'm doing a work, of God, John 6:28-29 ; 1John 3:23-24.
My work of faith is not what I trust in.
I trust Jesus will save me when He tells me what to do.
Therefore I do it because I trust Him.
You trust your faith alone will save you.
Because your trust is in your belief not in Jesus.
If you trusted Jesus you would do what He says to do.
It's not my gospel. I'm preaching what Jesus preaches.
Matthew 7:21,
- not everyone that saith unto Me Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven but he that doeth(obedient works) the will of My Father in heaven
Again I'm not responsible for others like yourself carelessness in defining works.
You pervert the gospel by teaching all works are merit. Jesus never taught this.
You are guilty of teaching good works must be repented of. Proving all works in your false gospel is evil. You call doing/obeying what Jesus said to do, evil.
We both agree faith saves. So naturally I dont need to preach on faith.
Since you reject the truth on obedient faith, that naturally is what I must teach.
Use some logic if your able, it will help you greatly.
This is truly an evil religion.
To tell others they must repent of doing what God says to do.
This proves your gospel is salvation through disobedience to God.
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